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1slow370 · 04-25-2014, 11:27 PM

Meth is a great addition, if you are the type to worry about things tune the car off meth that way if anything goes wrong with the system the car wont care. Its just like tunning a car on 91 but only running 93 in it to play it safe.

Nixlimited · 04-26-2014, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

Meth is a great addition, if you are the type to worry about things tune the car off meth that way if anything goes wrong with the system the car wont care. Its just like tunning a car on 91 but only running 93 in it to play it safe.

Unfortunately, you can't tune it that way. Meth is a fuel, so when you inject it, you change the AFR. As such, the tune has to take account of the meth.

Mr.Squeeze · 04-26-2014, 12:33 PM

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Unfortunately, you can't tune it that way. Meth is a fuel, so when you inject it, you change the AFR. As such, the tune has to take account of the meth.

This is the reason you for having two tunes one for straight 93 and the other for meth.

Nixlimited · 04-26-2014, 01:23 PM

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This is the reason you for having two tunes one for straight 93 and the other for meth.

Agreed. What I was really talking about is the issue of if the meth goes out (and you didn't have another tune), you would have issues.

1slow370 · 04-26-2014, 02:19 PM

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Unfortunately, you can't tune it that way. Meth is a fuel, so when you inject it, you change the AFR. As such, the tune has to take account of the meth.

You absolutely can run a water meth injection system without a tune. The only difference is you wont get the full performance gains, but it will kill detonation. Lots of guys do it, some will go 75w/25m instead of 50/50. It is only half fuel half water and the fuel is an oxidizer as well so it doesnt impact the afrs as much as you think. Any power lost by running richer is gained in charge cooling.

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Nixlimited · 04-26-2014, 04:42 PM

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You absolutely can run a water meth injection system without a tune. The only difference is you wont get the full performance gains, but it will kill detonation. Lots of guys do it, some will go 75w/25m instead of 50/50. It is only half fuel half water and the fuel is an oxidizer as well so it doesnt impact the afrs as much as you think. Any power lost by running richer is gained in charge cooling.

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Do so at your own peril.

1slow370 · 04-26-2014, 06:16 PM

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Do so at your own peril.

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O&G · 04-26-2014, 12:40 PM

If you go meth make sure you use braided, metal (strong) lines and connectors! I learned this the hard way and will never run meth again. E85 > Meth if you have it in your area. I'll be going that route in the near future.

faceglide · 04-27-2014, 01:08 AM

It it is not being used for power, then it really does not solve any existing problem(not that I would use it for power).

You get safety from a a great tune, great install and quality parts/supporting mods. The kit is proven to run about 500hp on 91 and more on 93. We all chose safe, responsible tunes, tunes that will never warrant the need for additional safety measure.

There is nothing wrong with it(meth), but I personally would sell it and invest in a return style fuel system, radiator and oil cooler and call that my safety net. Which is what I did...not one hitch yet, running stronger than the day I got it. I wouldn't bother adding anything else to bump the power before addressing that "trifecta".

Mr.Squeeze · 04-27-2014, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by faceglide

It it is not being used for power, then it really does not solve any existing problem(not that I would use it for power).

You get safety from a a great tune, great install and quality parts/supporting mods. The kit is proven to run about 500hp on 91 and more on 93. We all chose safe, responsible tunes, tunes that will never warrant the need for additional safety measure.

There is nothing wrong with it(meth), but I personally would sell it and invest in a return style fuel system, radiator and oil cooler and call that my safety net. Which is what I did...not one hitch yet, running stronger than the day I got it. I wouldn't bother adding anything else to bump the power before addressing that "trifecta".

Radiator Oil cooler fuel return system are all things that should be on a car in the first place for safety. Trying to steer someone away from using meth setup just because of your own personal reasons is not solid advice. The truth is meth can be used just for safety.

There are pro's and cons for using E85 as well ,there are cars that I know of that have had engine damage using this fuel with some stations having inconsistent E85 at the pump plus a tune that's to aggressive . Now I have not seen this on a 370z because people are just starting to use this fuel on this platform.

What we need on this platform is a real flex fuel tuning solution witch is suppose to come out with Ecutek.

rcdash · 04-28-2014, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by faceglide

It it is not being used for power, then it really does not solve any existing problem(not that I would use it for power).

You get safety from a a great tune, great install and quality parts/supporting mods. The kit is proven to run about 500hp on 91 and more on 93. We all chose safe, responsible tunes, tunes that will never warrant the need for additional safety measure.

There is nothing wrong with it(meth), but I personally would sell it and invest in a return style fuel system, radiator and oil cooler and call that my safety net. Which is what I did...not one hitch yet, running stronger than the day I got it. I wouldn't bother adding anything else to bump the power before addressing that "trifecta".

+1. I implemented an aquamist HFS-6 system with dual pre-TB nozzles and even tried small pre-turbo nozzles as well. Just not worth it. I had all the safeties with a flow switch that would cut boost if low flow etc but it was just a headache to keep troubleshooting. When I took off my methanol injection set up - all my "stainless" hose fittings were beginning to show signs of rust.

A safe tune is the way to go and e85 rocks. Too bad there is no PNP Haltech unit for the 370z yet. Being able to mix any qty of E85 and 93 oct is so nice. For the adventuresome, Hal at Dynosty can probably make a custom harness.

Mr.Squeeze · 04-28-2014, 09:52 AM

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+1. I implemented an aquamist HFS-6 system with dual pre-TB nozzles and even tried small pre-turbo nozzles as well. Just not worth it. I had all the safeties with a flow switch that would cut boost if low flow etc but it was just a headache to keep troubleshooting. When I took off my methanol injection set up - all my "stainless" hose fittings were beginning to show signs of rust.

A safe tune is the way to go and e85 rocks. Too bad there is no PNP Haltech unit for the 370z yet. Being able to mix any qty of E85 and 93 oct is so nice. For the adventuresome, Hal at Dynosty can probably make a custom harness.

About a year and a half ago I was in Florida at the Performance Racing Industry show and saw a Haltech that was suppose to come out. At the time I spoke with the Rep and even had my business information taken. I would have ran the unit on my car but like everything else with this platform development is slow.

I took these pictures December 1 2012 and was looking forward using this my car.

esfourteen · 04-28-2014, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze

About a year and a half ago I was in Florida at the Performance Racing Industry show and saw a Haltech that was suppose to come out. At the time I spoke with the Rep and even had my business information taken. I would have ran the unit on my car but like everything else with this platform development is slow.

haltech isn't making a plug n play ecu for our cars, but their new ECU (elite) will support the 370z. that should be out in 1-2 months from what they said

Mr.Squeeze · 04-28-2014, 05:59 PM

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haltech isn't making a plug n play ecu for our cars, but their new ECU (elite) will support the 370z. that should be out in 1-2 months from what they said

I know there not making a plug and play for our cars if they haven't come out with what I saw at the PRI show almost 2 years ago. Now this Elite ECU I wont
believe them tell I see it.

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faceglide Track Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: san jose Posts: 550 Drives: '12 370Z FI TT BkChr Rep Power: 39	It it is not being used for power, then it really does not solve any existing problem(not that I would use it for power). You get safety from a a great tune, great install and quality parts/supporting mods. The kit is proven to run about 500hp on 91 and more on 93. We all chose safe, responsible tunes, tunes that will never warrant the need for additional safety measure. There is nothing wrong with it(meth), but I personally would sell it and invest in a return style fuel system, radiator and oil cooler and call that my safety net. Which is what I did...not one hitch yet, running stronger than the day I got it. I wouldn't bother adding anything else to bump the power before addressing that "trifecta".

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