Starting Steps

ANMVQ · 07-11-2012, 01:30 PM

Ok so some of you know about my SC taking a dump, Stillen is going to warrenty it, But I'm still thinking about making some changes. I "MAY" or "MAY not" Send it to 928 Motorsports for the Impeller upgrade but either way I see in the future me adding something for more HP. We all have heard the rummors about the heat soak issue the Stillen kit has in the summer, So I went ahead and grabbed a upgraded heat exchanger from Frozenboost.com. Lots of american guys run these, SVT mustangs, Lightings and a few SC Camaros, The price was really good , Under $170 shipped and pretty big at 26x7x3.5.

Air to Water Heat Exchanger

tibal · 07-11-2012, 01:49 PM

That looks awesome. I know that with my previous car, a lot of guys ran Air to Air, or Air to Water setups w/ ice boxes even for the track and they worked excellently. Def a great idea to keep that puppy cool!

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ

Ok so some of you know about my SC taking a dump, Stillen is going to warrenty it, But I'm still thinking about making some changes. I "MAY" or "MAY not" Send it to 928 Motorsports for the Impeller upgrade but either way I see in the future me adding something for more HP. We all have heard the rummors about the heat soak issue the Stillen kit has in the summer, So I went ahead and grabbed a upgraded heat exchanger from Frozenboost.com. Lots of american guys run these, SVT mustangs, Lightings and a few SC Camaros, The price was really good , Under $170 shipped and pretty big at 26x7x3.5.

Air to Water Heat Exchanger

JMac88 · 07-11-2012, 08:54 PM

It's interesting you say this, we were thinking of ways to get cooler temps on a local stillen setup.

My suggestions if your going for the bigger exchanger run a larger coolant tank with ice box in the trunk. Should help out tons. Also run a heathy amount of water wetter in the coolant, i don't usually like additives but running it on my old sc'd car it worked really well.

ANMVQ · 07-12-2012, 07:39 AM

Thanx guys, Looking into also changing the coolant tank to a bigger one , Just looking for room.

ANMVQ · 07-12-2012, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JMac88

It's interesting you say this, we were thinking of ways to get cooler temps on a local stillen setup.

My suggestions if your going for the bigger exchanger run a larger coolant tank with ice box in the trunk. Should help out tons. Also run a heathy amount of water wetter in the coolant, i don't usually like additives but running it on my old sc'd car it worked really well.

What is the benifit of a larger coolant tank, Just that more coolant to flow would keep it cooler, I know it sounds dumb, But more to flow through the exchanged is a better way to keep things cool, Just like running a larger radiator? I will have to look and see where I could fit this, I found a lot on Ebay for like 150, Morroso and ETD motors.

JMac88 · 07-12-2012, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ

What is the benifit of a larger coolant tank, Just that more coolant to flow would keep it cooler, I know it sounds dumb, But more to flow through the exchanged is a better way to keep things cool, Just like running a larger radiator? I will have to look and see where I could fit this, I found a lot on Ebay for like 150, Morroso and ETD motors.

I am by no means an expert. I just went with the flow when it came to cooling mods for my old car. The first thing i said to the guy here was to upgrade the exchanger. But it was always my understanding that while running a larger exchanger will cool off a larger amount of coolant at one time, your only combating half the problem. By adding a larger resesivor you now have a larger pool of coolant to draw from therefor having the overall temperature displaced over the greater amount of coolant keeping things cooler. When you look at the stillen tank, it looks smaller then a water bottle. The other advantage is having an icebox for track days.

My advice is to read on an svt forum, lots of info on there since they all run/start off with exchangers.

JMac88 · 07-12-2012, 09:11 AM

I don't think you would need a huge box, something that could sit in the styrofoam area under your trunks carpet should be good. You will have lots of coolant in the lines from the engine bay to the trunk as well.

Neo187H · 07-12-2012, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ

I "MAY" or "MAY not" Send it to 928 Motorsports for the Impeller upgrade but either way I see in the future me adding something for more HP.

Slightly off topic but if you do decide to go with this impeller there is no reason to send it out to get it done. It's actually a very simple process of heating the impeller until it literally falls off and doing the same for the new one going on.

ANMVQ · 07-12-2012, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Neo187H

Slightly off topic but if you do decide to go with this impeller there is no reason to send it out to get it done. It's actually a very simple process of heating the impeller until it literally falls off and doing the same for the new one going on.

Yea I'm sure it not that bad read a few things about doing it, But with the car being at the dealer and the install of the impeller is 0 with 928, and my being in a loaner car, mind as well let a pro do it.

- An not have me or someone else f things up.

ANMVQ · 07-12-2012, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JMac88

I am by no means an expert. I just went with the flow when it came to cooling mods for my old car. The first thing i said to the guy here was to upgrade the exchanger. But it was always my understanding that while running a larger exchanger will cool off a larger amount of coolant at one time, your only combating half the problem. By adding a larger resesivor you now have a larger pool of coolant to draw from therefor having the overall temperature displaced over the greater amount of coolant keeping things cooler. When you look at the stillen tank, it looks smaller then a water bottle. The other advantage is having an icebox for track days.

My advice is to read on an svt forum, lots of info on there since they all run/start off with exchangers.

No thats exactly what I thought, an thanx for the info

But I will be trying to stay under the hood, I'm looking at areas where I could fit something, with the stock intake manifold gone I have some room on the drivers side of the car to work with, plus with my new vented hood the is a lot of air moving around in there so staying in that area will not be that bad,.

ANMVQ · 07-12-2012, 02:18 PM

Looking into some other things also, An can any one confirm the Stillen Kits injectors are only 600CC's? Why would they not use 650C. If there are 600's and upgrade the impeller I will need injectors. Along with new MAF's from UPREV.

Mr.Squeeze · 07-12-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ

What is the benifit of a larger coolant tank, Just that more coolant to flow would keep it cooler, I know it sounds dumb, But more to flow through the exchanged is a better way to keep things cool, Just like running a larger radiator? I will have to look and see where I could fit this, I found a lot on Ebay for like 150, Morroso and ETD motors.

Your better off buying one of there small 10 inch fan's ,and wiring it up to come on with your stock fans. You will alreay have to add more coolant with the lager Heatexchanger.

ANMVQ · 07-12-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze

Your better off buying one of there small 10 inch fan's ,and wiring it up to come on with your stock fans. You will alreay have to add more coolant with the lager Heatexchanger.

Ok Will definitly look into the fans, LOL on the Phone with them now "vortech"
7-10 days out of stock on everything :/

seymore4 · 07-12-2012, 04:09 PM

I've got a couple uprev mafs lying around if you end up needing them

ANMVQ · 07-12-2012, 08:52 PM

seymore you have a PM

07-11-2012, 01:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
ANMVQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Framingham MA Posts: 2,732 Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD Rep Power: 19	Starting Steps Ok so some of you know about my SC taking a dump, Stillen is going to warrenty it, But I'm still thinking about making some changes. I "MAY" or "MAY not" Send it to 928 Motorsports for the Impeller upgrade but either way I see in the future me adding something for more HP. We all have heard the rummors about the heat soak issue the Stillen kit has in the summer, So I went ahead and grabbed a upgraded heat exchanger from Frozenboost.com. Lots of american guys run these, SVT mustangs, Lightings and a few SC Camaros, The price was really good , Under $170 shipped and pretty big at 26x7x3.5. Air to Water Heat Exchanger __________________ 14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,

07-11-2012, 08:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
JMac88 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Edmonton AB Posts: 416 Drives: 2010 PW 370z Rep Power: 14	It's interesting you say this, we were thinking of ways to get cooler temps on a local stillen setup. My suggestions if your going for the bigger exchanger run a larger coolant tank with ice box in the trunk. Should help out tons. Also run a heathy amount of water wetter in the coolant, i don't usually like additives but running it on my old sc'd car it worked really well. __________________ Full Mod List

07-12-2012, 07:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
ANMVQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Framingham MA Posts: 2,732 Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD Rep Power: 19	Thanx guys, Looking into also changing the coolant tank to a bigger one , Just looking for room. __________________ 14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,

07-12-2012, 09:11 AM	#7 (permalink)
JMac88 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Edmonton AB Posts: 416 Drives: 2010 PW 370z Rep Power: 14	I don't think you would need a huge box, something that could sit in the styrofoam area under your trunks carpet should be good. You will have lots of coolant in the lines from the engine bay to the trunk as well. __________________ Full Mod List

07-12-2012, 02:18 PM	#11 (permalink)
ANMVQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Framingham MA Posts: 2,732 Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD Rep Power: 19	Looking into some other things also, An can any one confirm the Stillen Kits injectors are only 600CC's? Why would they not use 650C. If there are 600's and upgrade the impeller I will need injectors. Along with new MAF's from UPREV. __________________ 14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,

07-12-2012, 04:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
seymore4 Track Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: West coast Age: 41 Posts: 555 Drives: 2010 nismo Rep Power: 6726	I've got a couple uprev mafs lying around if you end up needing them

07-12-2012, 08:52 PM	#15 (permalink)
ANMVQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Framingham MA Posts: 2,732 Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD Rep Power: 19	seymore you have a PM __________________ 14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,

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