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Old 12-21-2012, 05:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I appreciate the info. I need time to convince the wife to let me do it

Never had F.I before and therefore need to do some homework.. I'm not going for max power with a built motor but rather a setup that I can daily drive and be reliable.

If you have any queestions about the kit, just let me know.

The kit is very flexible. With the standard 1.0 a/r turbine housing you are good for up to 550whp without much effort. You don't need to run your car at that power level. A 7psi spring in the waste gates will net you high 400's at the wheels with 400ft/tq. That is a good amount of power for the street.

If you want to expand down the road and maybe even build your engine, all you have to do is upgrade the turbine housing. This is a $250 item that can be swaped in a matter of minutes.

The rest of the kit is built to support much more than the stock block can handle. The injectors are plenty large (750cc), as is the fuel pump (340lph)....so these are items that you don't have to worry about down the road.
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I want this kit so badly, I have told myself that I would not boost the Z, as I am planning on a cayman very shortly, however this high quality kit may prove more difficult to resist than I originally anticipated.
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Don't fight it, it will just cause stress and give you gray hair....you don't want gray hair do you?
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I want this kit so badly, I have told myself that I would not boost the Z, as I am planning on a cayman very shortly, however this high quality kit may prove more difficult to resist than I originally anticipated.
I work at one of the largest Porsche dealers in the world. I'm sure I can hook you up with a good deal if you decide
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If you have any queestions about the kit, just let me know.

The kit is very flexible. With the standard 1.0 a/r turbine housing you are good for up to 550whp without much effort. You don't need to run your car at that power level. A 7psi spring in the waste gates will net you high 400's at the wheels with 400ft/tq. That is a good amount of power for the street.

If you want to expand down the road and maybe even build your engine, all you have to do is upgrade the turbine housing. This is a $250 item that can be swaped in a matter of minutes.

The rest of the kit is built to support much more than the stock block can handle. The injectors are plenty large (750cc), as is the fuel pump (340lph)....so these are items that you don't have to worry about down the road.
Sounds delicions...

I hate to make you repeat yourself, but I didn't see this thread in its early development... You've made a single turbo kit correct? Can you please tell me the benefits of your kit over say a Twin Turbo setup, just so I can compare/contrast... I'm really looking forward to the results, and I'm very pleased with your build quality and customer service.
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Sounds delicions...

I hate to make you repeat yourself, but I didn't see this thread in its early development... You've made a single turbo kit correct? Can you please tell me the benefits of your kit over say a Twin Turbo setup, just so I can compare/contrast... I'm really looking forward to the results, and I'm very pleased with your build quality and customer service.
Do like the rest of us and start at the beginning, I think I had my deposit down before I hit page 60
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I don't have the money for a kit at the moment, I'm just curious so that When the time comes I am able to purchase and maintain a turbo kit, I choose the right one for my wants.
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Do what Mitco said. This thread is full of gold. Right now it is just a turbo kit to you, but if you read the thread you will learn the full details of this work of metal art! Sashas attention to detail and customer service is one of the main reasons I want this kit. Unfortunate for me, im getting married in September, so a turbo kit is at least a year away for me
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Do what Mitco said. This thread is full of gold. Right now it is just a turbo kit to you, but if you read the thread you will learn the full details of this work of metal art! Sashas attention to detail and customer service is one of the main reasons I want this kit. Unfortunate for me, im getting married in September, so a turbo kit is at least a year away for me
I am getting married next year too. Plus I have to spend 6-8k on uniform and equipment cost because of a new career that I just started. Wish my job paid for the cost of uniform and equipment. I would of bought the kit by now. Now I have to wait till around spring maybe beginning of summer for this kit to sit in my hands.
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Sounds delicions...

I hate to make you repeat yourself, but I didn't see this thread in its early development... You've made a single turbo kit correct? Can you please tell me the benefits of your kit over say a Twin Turbo setup, just so I can compare/contrast... I'm really looking forward to the results, and I'm very pleased with your build quality and customer service.
Singlet turbo, but with a twin scroll turbine housing. This gives you efficiency of a single turbo (more efficient than twin), with the benefits of a twin turbo, where the exhaust pulses between the banks are seperated. With the twin scroll the two banks are seperated untill the exhaust gases reach the down pipe. To take it one step further, the OEM and aftermarket headers have equal length primaries, and this creates the desired scavenging effect, because each combution pulse is seperated from the next. Something a log style manifold simply can't do, due to the design and space constrictions.

The twin scroll will also outspool an open inlet turbine housing every time. This gives it a great advantage over the top mount open housing turbo kits as well.

The only way to avoid pulse interferance (increase efficiency) with a twin turbo is to build a tubular manifold where you have equal length primaries feeding the turbo. Here is a perfect example...R35 kits are now being build with tubular manifold, going away from the log style in order to reach the power levels not seen before:

http://www.extremeturbosystems.com/i...it-2-01-01.jpg

Greddy has also switched from the cast/log manifold and gone to tubular...for the same reason.

So that is one of the big advantages...efficieny.

Price is the other big factor. For starters you will save about $500 with the twin scroll single kit that is capable of producing the same power as a Stage II twin turbo kit. On top of that the twin scroll single kit comes with a complete oil cooler kit ($400 retail) value, larger fuel pump 340lph (vs 255) larger injectors 750cc (vs 600cc) as well as an oil pan spacer ($100) to increase the oil volume by 1qt. So that alone will add up to another $1,000 or so. Some nice clutch/flywheel money.

Simplicity is another thing to consider. No need to pull the engine, get a new washer fulid reserovoir, and removal of many OEM components is minimal. Car can be returned back to stock in a weekend, without ever knowing there was a turbo kit installed. Because of the "bolt on" simpicity the install cost is much less, $1,200 on the single kit, and about $2,500-$3,000 with any twin kit mainly due to the need for engine removal.

For results, you can go the the first post on the first page. There is a dyno sheet posted there.
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Singlet turbo, but with a twin scroll turbine housing. This gives you efficiency of a single turbo (more efficient than twin), with the benefits of a twin turbo, where the exhaust pulses between the banks are seperated. With the twin scroll the two banks are seperated untill the exhaust gases reach the down pipe. To take it one step further, the OEM and aftermarket headers have equal length primaries, and this creates the desired scavenging effect, because each combution pulse is seperated from the next. Something a log style manifold simply can't do, due to the design and space constrictions.

The twin scroll will also outspool an open inlet turbine housing every time. This gives it a great advantage over the top mount open housing turbo kits as well.

The only way to avoid pulse interferance (increase efficiency) with a twin turbo is to build a tubular manifold where you have equal length primaries feeding the turbo. Here is a perfect example...R35 kits are now being build with tubular manifold, going away from the log style in order to reach the power levels not seen before:

http://www.extremeturbosystems.com/i...it-2-01-01.jpg

Greddy has also switched from the cast/log manifold and gone to tubular...for the same reason.

So that is one of the big advantages...efficieny.

Price is the other big factor. For starters you will save about $500 with the twin scroll single kit that is capable of producing the same power as a Stage II twin turbo kit. On top of that the twin scroll single kit comes with a complete oil cooler kit ($400 retail) value, larger fuel pump 340lph (vs 255) larger injectors 750cc (vs 600cc) as well as an oil pan spacer ($100) to increase the oil volume by 1qt. So that alone will add up to another $1,000 or so. Some nice clutch/flywheel money.

Simplicity is another thing to consider. No need to pull the engine, get a new washer fulid reserovoir, and removal of many OEM components is minimal. Car can be returned back to stock in a weekend, without ever knowing there was a turbo kit installed. Because of the "bolt on" simpicity the install cost is much less, $1,200 on the single kit, and about $2,500-$3,000 with any twin kit mainly due to the need for engine removal.

For results, you can go the the first post on the first page. There is a dyno sheet posted there.
Thank you! This is exactly what I was looking for. I've seen some of the other Single turbo kits, and was just curious as to the differences between yours/theirs/TT, and this explains a lot. Especially in terms of what I'm "hoping" to achieve when I go FI.

I'm guessing with the Single turbo, it spools up much quicker, does that have any effect on initial response with wheel slip or anything?

Can't wait to see Install Threads/Videos/Dynos/Strip runs and drive by's.

I will read back through the development of this kit, you've really got me intrigued.


Now you were talking about clutch/flywheel upgrades for the 6MT, of course. For the 7AT, are you looking at requiring/will be needing upgrades there as well? I know GTM has AT upgrades, but as with anything else with the GTM branding, it's going to be insanely expensive (but worth it). Are you expecting the 7AT guys to have to upgrade bits with this kit as well?
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Price is the other big factor. For starters you will save about $500 with the twin scroll single kit that is capable of producing the same power as a Stage II twin turbo kit. On top of that the twin scroll single kit comes with a complete oil cooler kit ($400 retail) value, larger fuel pump 340lph (vs 255) larger injectors 750cc (vs 600cc) as well as an oil pan spacer ($100) to increase the oil volume by 1qt. So that alone will add up to another $1,000 or so. Some nice clutch/flywheel money.
Not only that. Your kit comes with down pipes with Wastegates.. While GTM doesn't even comes with normal test pipes .. this alone is $1200 value

Its funny how GTM advertise their stage 2 kit for "600" WHP when their kit runs out of fuel at 500 WHP

The 3rd reason why this kit is better because this is a true full kit and true full bolts on! and here is why
This kit comes with Oil pan spacer for turbo lines, while gtm you either have to drill your stock pan or purchase a spacer.

This kit comes with Oil cooler, GTM kit doesn't come with that so you cant go to track with GTM kit otherwise say hello to overheat and goodbye to the engine.

This kit comes with large injectors and fuel pump to be able to make "600" hp without running out of fuel. While GTM comes with 600 injectors and 255 that are known to max out at 500 WHP.

And there are many other reasons but last and not least, when Boost performance gives you a lead time for kit. it will come in time or even before that! but with GTM? I don't even wanna talk about it

Don't get me wrong, I have GTM TT kit for my self but im just saying the true facts

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omg. I just spent 2 hours reading this entire 89 page thread. I'm even more <3 for this kit now. An amazing product, and a strong dedication to precision and meticulous craftsmanship and customer service. You're giving Tony from F.I. a run for his money on best customer service seen here


After looking through it I only had 1 real question/observation:

The 2 cars that had posted pics of installs both had the Stock sway bars. Has there been anyone with aftermarket sway bars looking to install this kit (preferably Whiteline since that's what I have)? Only reason I ask is for clearance between the sways/oil fittings/lines/etc.?

And lastly, can someone go kick down the door of that guy who said he'd drop off his 7AT with you and steal borrow his keys/car so you can get under it and see if it is impossible to rig up a kit for the 7AT...

Perhaps your next batch of 6 should be for 7AT drivers...

The aftermarket sway bars have the same shape as OEM, and are only a bit larger diameter. This should not be a problem at all. The oil fittings are also way up there with the OEM oil pressure sensor, so there is no chance of contact.

Now that you now know that this kit does not work with the 7AT. I will try to do something about this in the spring/summer next year. If I can find the donor car, by all means I would do my best to make this happen. The manifold will have to be different for sure, and I am not sure if I can keep the twin scroll for it. The OEM 7AT oil pan is so large, and takes up a lot of valuable space under the car. I have been known to perform miracles though....so you never know.




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Not only that. Your kit comes with down pipes with Wastegates.. While GTM doesn't even comes with normal test pipes .. this alone is $1200 value

Its funny how GTM advertise their stage 2 kit for "600" WHP when their kit runs out of fuel at 500 WHP

The 3rd reason why this kit is better because this is a true full kit and true full bolts on! and here is why
This kit comes with Oil pan spacer for turbo lines, while gtm you either have to drill your stock pan or purchase a spacer.

This kit comes with Oil cooler, GTM kit doesn't come with that so you cant go to track with GTM kit otherwise say hello to overheat and goodbye to the engine.

This kit comes with large injectors and fuel pump to be able to make "600" hp without running out of fuel. While GTM comes with 600 injectors and 255 that are known to max out at 500 WHP.

And there are many other reasons but last and not least, when Boost performance gives you a lead time for kit. it will come in time or even before that! but with GTM? I don't even wanna talk about it

Don't get me wrong, I have GTM TT kit for my self but im just saying the true facts

Way to go Boosted Performance!
You are right, these are the things that a lot of people miss when looking at/purchasing these kits.

IMO, if it is needed, why not make it a part of the kit. It saves the customer the run around and frustration. When I say this kit will support 650whp in the Stage I form (that is over 700hp as advetised by others, since they advetise flywheel) out of the box, I mean that because I have customers that have done it. No further upgrades to the kit are needed, of course other than the turbine to support the flow. That however is only about $250, and takes 30 minutes to swap (5min if the turbo is out).

I think it is also important to mention service if something does go wrong. I have a local friend who blew one of his turbos on the APS TT kit on his G35. The bill on that: $4,500. The shop pulled the engine out to remove the turbo, so that set him back $3,000 alone. He ened up getting both turbos rebuilt...and the kit only had 11K miles on it. The turbo that comes with the BP kit cost about $450 to rebuild (by the manufacturer, Precision turbo), and I can't see a shop charging more than 2.5 hours labor for removal install.
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Now that you now know that this kit does not work with the 7AT. I will try to do something about this in the spring/summer next year. If I can find the donor car, by all means I would do my best to make this happen. The manifold will have to be different for sure, and I am not sure if I can keep the twin scroll for it. The OEM 7AT oil pan is so large, and takes up a lot of valuable space under the car. I have been known to perform miracles though....so you never know.
Perhaps it would be easier to make a different oil pan for the auto trans? Or relocate most of it to the side or elsewhere? Integrate it to an oil cooler to give you the same volume of oil with a flatter trans oil pan? You'd need to know how deep in the oil pan parts of the valve body go. Never pulled off the pan on those trans and can't seem to find a decent photo of the trans so don't know if its feasible or not, just throwing it out there but I'm sure you've already thought about it.
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Perhaps it would be easier to make a different oil pan for the auto trans? Or relocate most of it to the side or elsewhere? Integrate it to an oil cooler to give you the same volume of oil with a flatter trans oil pan? You'd need to know how deep in the oil pan parts of the valve body go. Never pulled off the pan on those trans and can't seem to find a decent photo of the trans so don't know if its feasible or not, just throwing it out there but I'm sure you've already thought about it.
It's not just the oil pan, it is the entire castin of the transmission, that is large:



VS manual:




You can see that the turbine housing with these turbos is rather large..this is what allows this kit to make the claimed power.

It would be difficult to do, but I can always try.
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