How much power do you think is safe on stock internals?

JB-370z · 05-23-2011, 05:08 PM

Looks like I will be blowing mine and getting a new one

birdmanx1 · 05-23-2011, 05:13 PM

RCZ, I can understand $500 service A; $1500 service B for Mercedes but $800 oil change on GTR seems unlikely. Granted it is a ferrari beater but still a Nissan at the end of the day. $100 - $150 oil change would seem reasonable

I would think that the $2000 ll be similar to Service B (every 10000mi or 6months)

birdmanx1 · 05-23-2011, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JB-370z

Looks like I will be blowing mine and getting a new one

At least you'll have fun in the process JB

RCZ · 05-23-2011, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by birdmanx1

RCZ, I can understand $500 service A; $1500 service B for Mercedes but $800 oil change on GTR seems unlikely. Granted it is a ferrari beater but still a Nissan at the end of the day. $100 - $150 oil change would seem reasonable

I would think that the $2000 ll be similar to Service B (every 10000mi or 6months)

2009 Nissan GT-R: Bargain Supercar Gets Expensive

Some Bargain: Inside Line reports $2000 routine maintenance bill for Nissan GT-R — Autoblog

Post Track Maintence - NAGTROC - The Nissan GT-R Owners Club

Its insane.

birdmanx1 · 05-23-2011, 05:48 PM

WOW... that's insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So what were you saying about FI the Z?

b1adesofcha0s · 05-23-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by birdmanx1

WOW... that's insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So what were you saying about FI the Z?

Might be cheaper to get a used Ferrari or Lambo

FL 4Motion · 05-23-2011, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Ah the GT-R would be fun...I've read too many threads and articles of people paying $2000 for normal maintenance visits. Oil for it is over $100 per quart and it needs like 8 of them. Air filters are $50 each. Add in labor and stuff and next thing you know its on eBay..

From personal experience:

GTR oil change at the dealer: $150 (under normal driving: every 6K miles)

Transmission service: $1800-$2000 at the dealer (under normal driving: every 18K miles)

Tires: about $400-$450 per tire (tirerack) and under normal driving set will last about 12-15K miles.

If you track the car: If oil temps exceed 230 deg, change oil after track day

If trans temps go betwn 230-260 deg, change trans fluid w/in 1800 miles after track event.

If trans temps exceed 260 deg, change trans fluid asap.

Brake pads last around 35K miles under normal driving. No longer required to change rotors with pads every time.

Full brake service from dealer: new pads and rotors will run around $8K, aftermarker (read, better) pads and rotors will run around $4 to $6K depending on brand, labor rate etc.

For a supercar, it's much cheaper to maintain a GTR than a lambo or Ferrari, the problem is since it's a nissan, folks expect to pay sentra maintenance prices.

birdmanx1 · 05-23-2011, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Might be cheaper to get a used Ferrari or Lambo

I'll be happy as long as you let me experience those 500+ in your used Ferrari or Lambo

b1adesofcha0s · 05-23-2011, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by birdmanx1

I'll be happy as long as you let me experience those 500+ in your used Ferrari or Lambo

I'll be happy to experience them myself

birdmanx1 · 05-23-2011, 08:25 PM

FL_Motion, from those numbers you gave, they're really not any worse than maintaining a Mercedes where oil changes were $500 for Service A, $1500 (3000m) Service B (10,000mi), $1500+ for ANYTHING breaking in the car.

Someone at the dealership told me that it cost about $8000 for ceramic brakes replacement, not sure if it is confirmed or not but I would think that for a supercar such as the GTR, you really have to pay to play.

Thx for the great info btw.

b1adesofcha0s · 05-23-2011, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

From personal experience:

GTR oil change at the dealer: $150 (under normal driving: every 6K miles)

Transmission service: $1800-$2000 at the dealer (under normal driving: every 18K miles)

Tires: about $400-$450 per tire (tirerack) and under normal driving set will last about 12-15K miles.

If you track the car: If oil temps exceed 230 deg, change oil after track day

If trans temps go betwn 230-260 deg, change trans fluid w/in 1800 miles after track event.

If trans temps exceed 260 deg, change trans fluid asap.

Brake pads last around 35K miles under normal driving. No longer required to change rotors with pads every time.

Full brake service from dealer: new pads and rotors will run around $8K, aftermarker (read, better) pads and rotors will run around $4 to $6K depending on brand, labor rate etc.

For a supercar, it's much cheaper to maintain a GTR than a lambo or Ferrari, the problem is since it's a nissan, folks expect to pay sentra maintenance prices.

Thanks for the info!

birdmanx1 · 05-23-2011, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

I'll be happy to experience them myself

Don't flake out on me dude, keep that 500+ whp GTR in your sight once you get that oil muneyyy

b1adesofcha0s · 05-23-2011, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by birdmanx1

Don't flake out on me dude, keep that 500+ whp GTR in your sight once you get that oil muneyyy

What oil money?

Still have supercar plans/dreams for the future

FL 4Motion · 05-23-2011, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by birdmanx1

FL_Motion, from those numbers you gave, they're really not any worse than maintaining a Mercedes where oil changes were $500 for Service A, $1500 (3000m) Service B (10,000mi), $1500+ for ANYTHING breaking in the car.

Someone at the dealership told me that it cost about $8000 for ceramic brakes replacement, not sure if it is confirmed or not but I would think that for a supercar such as the GTR, you really have to pay to play.

Thx for the great info btw.

ceramic brakes for the GTR??

AP racing has a true ceramic brake replacement for the GTR (rotors and calipers) iirc, it's around 15-20K. But, the rotors never need to be replaced and will handle heat from traking better than any iron rotor ever could. Most dealers are beyond cluless, esp when the GTR is involved. When we had ours, we had salesmen begging us to let them ride in it since the owner of the dealership wouldn't let them even sit in or touch the ones for sale.

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Thanks for the info!

NewYorkJon34 · 05-23-2011, 08:56 PM

To get back on the thread topic, does anyone know the compression ratio of the GTM pistons? It says for the 350z pistons, but not the 370z ones.

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05-23-2011, 05:08 PM	#31 (permalink)
JB-370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 1,859 Drives: Stage 2 Twin Turbos Rep Power: 19	Looks like I will be blowing mine and getting a new one __________________ ll Baker Tuning ll GTM ll Powerhouse Amuse ll HKS ll Up-Rev ll iForged ll AP Racing ll Pioneer ll SPL ll Bride ll Top Secret ll OS Giken ll GTM Stage 2 Twin Turboed 370z (First in Texas, Thanks To Baker Tuning)

05-23-2011, 05:13 PM	#32 (permalink)
birdmanx1 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Baltimore, MD Age: 95 Posts: 3,175 Drives: 370z Nismo Rep Power: 23	RCZ, I can understand $500 service A; $1500 service B for Mercedes but $800 oil change on GTR seems unlikely. Granted it is a ferrari beater but still a Nissan at the end of the day. $100 - $150 oil change would seem reasonable I would think that the $2000 ll be similar to Service B (every 10000mi or 6months) __________________ 370Z NISMO #0462 \| ClearBra \| 3M tint \| Head/Taillights \| Dynamat \| Black Roof \| Tommy Kaira HB \| CF Parts \| Berk HFCs \| FI SS \| NST Pulleys \| Takeda aFe \| K&N \| H&R Spacers \| Swift Spec R \| SPC F&R \| Zuperman M370 Nismo Vid \| Nismo Journal \| Nismo Rumble

05-23-2011, 05:48 PM	#35 (permalink)
birdmanx1 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Baltimore, MD Age: 95 Posts: 3,175 Drives: 370z Nismo Rep Power: 23	WOW... that's insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So what were you saying about FI the Z? __________________ 370Z NISMO #0462 \| ClearBra \| 3M tint \| Head/Taillights \| Dynamat \| Black Roof \| Tommy Kaira HB \| CF Parts \| Berk HFCs \| FI SS \| NST Pulleys \| Takeda aFe \| K&N \| H&R Spacers \| Swift Spec R \| SPC F&R \| Zuperman M370 Nismo Vid \| Nismo Journal \| Nismo Rumble

05-23-2011, 08:25 PM	#40 (permalink)
birdmanx1 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Baltimore, MD Age: 95 Posts: 3,175 Drives: 370z Nismo Rep Power: 23	FL_Motion, from those numbers you gave, they're really not any worse than maintaining a Mercedes where oil changes were $500 for Service A, $1500 (3000m) Service B (10,000mi), $1500+ for ANYTHING breaking in the car. Someone at the dealership told me that it cost about $8000 for ceramic brakes replacement, not sure if it is confirmed or not but I would think that for a supercar such as the GTR, you really have to pay to play. Thx for the great info btw. __________________ 370Z NISMO #0462 \| ClearBra \| 3M tint \| Head/Taillights \| Dynamat \| Black Roof \| Tommy Kaira HB \| CF Parts \| Berk HFCs \| FI SS \| NST Pulleys \| Takeda aFe \| K&N \| H&R Spacers \| Swift Spec R \| SPC F&R \| Zuperman M370 Nismo Vid \| Nismo Journal \| Nismo Rumble Last edited by birdmanx1; 05-23-2011 at 08:28 PM.

05-23-2011, 08:56 PM	#45 (permalink)
NewYorkJon34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 3,041 Drives: 09 Fairlady Z Rep Power: 1064	To get back on the thread topic, does anyone know the compression ratio of the GTM pistons? It says for the 350z pistons, but not the 370z ones. __________________ NewYorkJon34's Ultimate Z Build

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