GTM Stage 2 Supercharger Preliminary Testing Results

Nixlimited · 05-17-2011, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Alberto

How about a stage 1 @ 10psi if possible or a Stage 2 at 8psi to compare apples to apples...the way you have this comparison laid out doesn't make sense.

I believe the issue with the STG 1 blower was that it couldn't get up that high reliably because it flows less and because of the VVEL overlap issue. That's why, as Sam has pointed out, the STG 1 blower on a 350Z made more HP.

SAM@GTM · 05-17-2011, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by christian370z

So much awesome, great work on getting the kit done as this is the best news I have seen yet! Time to get serious about building up the car mod piggy bank.

How much work is it to install the new poly engine mounts?

Not bad at all, Couple hours worth of work .

Sam

SeeyaBud86 · 05-17-2011, 11:51 AM

Looking forward to see how this kit performs with GT-R manifold and VVEL tuning. Not to mention an exhaust and HFC's, test pipes, or headers.

theDreamer · 05-17-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze

It has more to do with the supercharger being maxed out ,and to much over lap. The stage 2 flows 11% more than the stage 1, if you compare the two dyno charts that Sam posted it adds up to that.

That is what I am saying, the efficiency range of the stage 1 is at its max. So trying to run a higher PSI or a lower PSI, on stage 2, is not a worthwhile test.

Mr.Squeeze · 05-17-2011, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

That is what I am saying, the efficiency range of the stage 1 is at its max. So trying to run a higher PSI or a lower PSI, on stage 2, is not a worthwhile test.

It can be done with the Stage 2 unit it would just need to have a bigger pulley to slow the unit down.

I do see you point now however, with both units using the same pulley now it doesnt make sense.

Alberto · 05-17-2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Because stage 1 is within its efficiency range at 8PSI and stage 2 is at 10PSI, it is designed to show you how a stage 2 kit can go farther than a stage 1.
Which is also why Sam said the stage 2 does not need a smaller pulley as it did not show any increase in power, similar with the stage 1.

What part of "if possible" from my post above did you not understand?

I am looking into learning the 3.7's "potential" more and figured what you had posted above. But again a stage 2 @ 8psi would be a nice comparison.

theDreamer · 05-17-2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Alberto

What part of "if possible" from my post above did you not understand?

Again, read the thread.
Not going to muddy up this thread.

Mr.Squeeze · 05-17-2011, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Alberto

What part of "if possible" from my post above did you not understand?

I am looking into learning the 3.7's "potential" more and figured what you had posted above. But again a stage 2 @ 8psi would be a nice comparison.

I understand what your talking about Alberto Sam is the only one that can do that though.

dixon cider · 05-17-2011, 03:34 PM

Ugh! I stay off of the forums for 24 hours and I miss this thread. Andrew had to tell me about it. The "lower" power car Sam has is a G not a Z. He using a couple of cars for testing the Stage 2, mine being one of them. Went to GTM today. It's the home stretch for the S2!!!! Whew!! My patience was wearing thin (shut up Andrew!!), poor Sam for having to deal with me too. Sam thinks my car should be done within 2 weeks (again SHUT UP ANDREW!!!!

). I'm using my ipad, so I'm not sure I can post pics from here. Any ideas, anyone?

JB-370z · 05-17-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dixon cider

Ugh! I stay off of the forums for 24 hours and I miss this thread. Andrew had to tell me about it. The "lower" power car Sam has is a G not a Z. He using a couple of cars for testing the Stage 2, mine being one of them. Went to GTM today. It's the home stretch for the S2!!!! Whew!! My patience was wearing thin (shut up Andrew!!), poor Sam for having to deal with me too. Sam thinks my car should be done within 2 weeks (again SHUT UP ANDREW!!!!

). I'm using my ipad, so I'm not sure I can post pics from here. Any ideas, anyone?

Put the pics on a hosted site or up load them on your forum account. Then paste the code. Boom, Done.

Jamaica · 05-17-2011, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dixon cider

Ugh! I stay off of the forums for 24 hours and I miss this thread. Andrew had to tell me about it. The "lower" power car Sam has is a G not a Z. He using a couple of cars for testing the Stage 2, mine being one of them. Went to GTM today. It's the home stretch for the S2!!!! Whew!! My patience was wearing thin (shut up Andrew!!), poor Sam for having to deal with me too. Sam thinks my car should be done within 2 weeks (again SHUT UP ANDREW!!!!

). I'm using my ipad, so I'm not sure I can post pics from here. Any ideas, anyone?

hahahah bastard...

Im exited to see what GTM is bringing to the table.

Z eliminator · 05-17-2011, 05:41 PM

Well you guys leave Sam alone so that he can finnish the SC for the 370z.
He needs to be left a lone so that he can finnish the kit.
That way I will get my SC and kick a GTR at the drag strip.
thanks

Z

XwChriswX · 05-17-2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator

Well you guys leave Sam alone so that he can finnish the SC for the 370z.
He needs to be left a lone so that he can finnish the kit.
That way I will get my SC and kick a GTR at the drag strip.
thanks

Z

Jamaica · 05-17-2011, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z eliminator

Well you guys leave Sam alone so that he can finnish the SC for the 370z.
He needs to be left a lone so that he can finnish the kit.
That way I will get my SC and kick a GTR at the drag strip.
thanks

Z

lol

if you beat a GTR it will be shock to us all. That would something worth seeing.

Z eliminator · 05-17-2011, 05:59 PM

Right now a stock 2010 gtr runs the 1/4 in 11.75. My N/A 7 AT goes 12.42 with 309 rwhp. bump it to 470 rwhp and my car is light 3372 lb with me in it.
I can not wait till I race one.
" soon to be a GTR's worst night mare in the 1.4 mile."
Ask Sam about my car .

05-17-2011, 11:51 AM	#48 (permalink)
SeeyaBud86 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 480 Drives: 09 PW 370z 6MT Rep Power: 15	Looking forward to see how this kit performs with GT-R manifold and VVEL tuning. Not to mention an exhaust and HFC's, test pipes, or headers. __________________ My Z:http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...l-finally.html 1969 MGB for sale: http://www.the370z.com/other-vehicle...ml#post1238143

05-17-2011, 03:34 PM	#54 (permalink)
dixon cider A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: STL Posts: 6,034 Drives: ONE BAD AZZ VERT Rep Power: 29	Ugh! I stay off of the forums for 24 hours and I miss this thread. Andrew had to tell me about it. The "lower" power car Sam has is a G not a Z. He using a couple of cars for testing the Stage 2, mine being one of them. Went to GTM today. It's the home stretch for the S2!!!! Whew!! My patience was wearing thin (shut up Andrew!!), poor Sam for having to deal with me too. Sam thinks my car should be done within 2 weeks (again SHUT UP ANDREW!!!! ). I'm using my ipad, so I'm not sure I can post pics from here. Any ideas, anyone? __________________ GTM INVIDIA MRWorks (RIP) Snow Performance Giken KW Hotchkis SRP "Remember, when all else fails, don't forget to tongue punch the brown starfish"-dixon Dixon Cider's Roadster Build

05-17-2011, 05:41 PM	#57 (permalink)
Z eliminator A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 1,659 Drives: 370 Z 7AT Sports Rep Power: 18	Well you guys leave Sam alone so that he can finnish the SC for the 370z. He needs to be left a lone so that he can finnish the kit. That way I will get my SC and kick a GTR at the drag strip. thanks Z __________________ 12.343 @114.14 . 4.5 stroker motor is now being built. Dec 1 2015.

05-17-2011, 05:59 PM	#60 (permalink)
Z eliminator A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 1,659 Drives: 370 Z 7AT Sports Rep Power: 18	Right now a stock 2010 gtr runs the 1/4 in 11.75. My N/A 7 AT goes 12.42 with 309 rwhp. bump it to 470 rwhp and my car is light 3372 lb with me in it. I can not wait till I race one. " soon to be a GTR's worst night mare in the 1.4 mile." Ask Sam about my car . __________________ 12.343 @114.14 . 4.5 stroker motor is now being built. Dec 1 2015.

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