Another GTM Convert: GTM Supercharged G37

SAM@GTM · 03-03-2011, 06:54 PM

It was going to be a long bumpy journey for Eric when he decided to supercharge his Infiniti G37. Little did he know that he was an early adopter of a new supercharger kit that came on the market. After month and months of multiple tunes and custom dyno tuning sessions, Eric decided to leave the kit for dead and see the light.

To be honest, we were excited and concerned at the same time. We were excited in the sense that this would be a great opportunity for us to digest a competitor's system since, in our opinion, there was very little technical information available to the public. Also, by switching systems, we were able to get direct customer feedback and back to back comparison between the two systems. Our concern was "how bad could it be?". Maybe it was not the kit, maybe it was the car, or maybe the customer is just difficult to please. Also, the customer was told that his car was the problem and not the kit. We thought it would be interesting and challenging to take on this conversion and even told the customer that in the event that our kit does not perform in ALL aspects like we said it would (power, driveability, power delivery, and overall performance), we would take it off of his car at no charge whatsoever.

Eric found that to be a win/win proposition and took us up on our offer.

Fast forward, and the car was dropped off at our facility. Our first plan was to completely verify and validate the customer's complaint with the system. We did in fact validate them in all aspects. The next step was to spend the time and diagnose the car to isolate the problem at hand. The last thing we want to do is remove a kit, install a different kit and still have the same driveability issues Eric was complaining about. We spent about a week dyno testing (we noticed that we could not get an accurate AFR reading due to the HKS muffler design so we decided to install an 02 sensor bung before the cats for more accurate readings and found AFR's in the high 13's under boost), logging, driving around with our knock ears (hearing massive amounts of detonation to our surprise and we're amazed that the car didn't seem to have incurred any internal engine damage), checking every sensor operation, and finally felt comfortable that this car will perform very well with our system.

We proceeded with removing the supercharger kit that was installed by an Infiniti dealership. We were rather disappointed with the quality of the installation that came from a dealership. A lot of pictures were provided to Eric to share at his discretion.

Our kit was installed, the car was tuned conservatively (due to the aforementioned lean running and detonation with the previous kit), test driven, and delivered as promised.

We were relieved that we didn't have to take our kit back off of the car, because there was absolutely nothing wrong with Eric's car and it drives like a raped ape.

Before

Customer Provided Dyno Graph (with other supercharger kit)

Our Knock Ears

After

After GTM Supercharger Install Dyno Graph

Dyno Comparison on both systems

FuszNissan · 03-03-2011, 07:04 PM

Looks Clean!

prescott3656 · 03-03-2011, 07:06 PM

i was already sold but this certainly confirms it...

Viera · 03-03-2011, 07:13 PM

lol dang...nice upgrade

tomnavone · 03-03-2011, 07:24 PM

These two kits are worlds apart. Im loving the GTM kit. Dont do what I did and waste your money on other sc kits.

dixon cider · 03-03-2011, 07:35 PM

Hey Sam, is that my black vert in the pic? Damn I miss that car!!

Dembflyr · 03-03-2011, 07:39 PM

Nice job Sam!

Now get that stage II kit out!!

I'd be interested to see the pics of the removal but I understand why they would be kept private. I am just curious as to what was not right with the install.

NewYorkJon34 · 03-03-2011, 07:51 PM

I think its terrible that stillen told Eric that his car was the problem instead of their shitty kit. Thats not going to make the customer feel any better about the situation. Sam great work, the kit/numbers look spot on

Signed,
Future stg.2 owner

weiboy718 · 03-03-2011, 08:11 PM

i want to thank Sam@GTM and his crew for doing such an beautiful job reforming it back to it's stock form, i couldn't ask for more. i bet it wasn't the easiest thing to do and i really appreciate you helping me out when i loss all hope. thank you! the car is currently running fantastic with lot's more power especially at the low end. it's definately worth the switch in my opinion and should've went with GTM from the beginning. hopefully nobody has to go through what i had to. i pretty much sold all my mods for this switch cuz i was getting very desperate and i feel my engine won't last much longer if i don't take any actions now. it's alright! hard lesson learned!

for anybody that's thinking about going F.I go GTM!!!

John@Z1 · 03-03-2011, 08:23 PM

Very nice!

biggersNISMO · 03-03-2011, 08:56 PM

Sam, good sh!t. I tip my hat.

NewYorkJon34 · 03-03-2011, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biggersNISMO

Sam, good sh!t. I tip my hat.

I second that

Jamaica · 03-03-2011, 09:11 PM

wow probs to GTM

DannyGT · 03-03-2011, 10:21 PM

/rawr

Sam - you're the man bro! Haters hate, until **** like this drops on them like a ton of bricks.

tiller · 03-03-2011, 10:31 PM

wow gtm sc is looking better & better for my build

03-03-2011, 06:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
SAM@GTM NOT AN ACTIVE SPONSOR. DO NOT BUY Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CALIFORNIA Posts: 913 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 17	Another GTM Convert: GTM Supercharged G37 It was going to be a long bumpy journey for Eric when he decided to supercharge his Infiniti G37. Little did he know that he was an early adopter of a new supercharger kit that came on the market. After month and months of multiple tunes and custom dyno tuning sessions, Eric decided to leave the kit for dead and see the light. To be honest, we were excited and concerned at the same time. We were excited in the sense that this would be a great opportunity for us to digest a competitor's system since, in our opinion, there was very little technical information available to the public. Also, by switching systems, we were able to get direct customer feedback and back to back comparison between the two systems. Our concern was "how bad could it be?". Maybe it was not the kit, maybe it was the car, or maybe the customer is just difficult to please. Also, the customer was told that his car was the problem and not the kit. We thought it would be interesting and challenging to take on this conversion and even told the customer that in the event that our kit does not perform in ALL aspects like we said it would (power, driveability, power delivery, and overall performance), we would take it off of his car at no charge whatsoever. Eric found that to be a win/win proposition and took us up on our offer. Fast forward, and the car was dropped off at our facility. Our first plan was to completely verify and validate the customer's complaint with the system. We did in fact validate them in all aspects. The next step was to spend the time and diagnose the car to isolate the problem at hand. The last thing we want to do is remove a kit, install a different kit and still have the same driveability issues Eric was complaining about. We spent about a week dyno testing (we noticed that we could not get an accurate AFR reading due to the HKS muffler design so we decided to install an 02 sensor bung before the cats for more accurate readings and found AFR's in the high 13's under boost), logging, driving around with our knock ears (hearing massive amounts of detonation to our surprise and we're amazed that the car didn't seem to have incurred any internal engine damage), checking every sensor operation, and finally felt comfortable that this car will perform very well with our system. We proceeded with removing the supercharger kit that was installed by an Infiniti dealership. We were rather disappointed with the quality of the installation that came from a dealership. A lot of pictures were provided to Eric to share at his discretion. Our kit was installed, the car was tuned conservatively (due to the aforementioned lean running and detonation with the previous kit), test driven, and delivered as promised. We were relieved that we didn't have to take our kit back off of the car, because there was absolutely nothing wrong with Eric's car and it drives like a raped ape. Before Customer Provided Dyno Graph (with other supercharger kit) Our Knock Ears After After GTM Supercharger Install Dyno Graph Dyno Comparison on both systems

03-03-2011, 07:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 541	Looks Clean! __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

03-03-2011, 07:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
tomnavone Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: S.F. Bay Area Posts: 723 Drives: Supercharged 370z Rep Power: 17	These two kits are worlds apart. Im loving the GTM kit. Dont do what I did and waste your money on other sc kits. __________________ GTM Supercharger/HKS Camp2/Berk cbe/Motordyne art pipes/Hotchkis sways/ Eibach Springs/ Black Volk TE37/Bridgestone S-04 Powered by

03-03-2011, 07:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
dixon cider A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: STL Posts: 6,034 Drives: ONE BAD AZZ VERT Rep Power: 29	Hey Sam, is that my black vert in the pic? Damn I miss that car!! __________________ GTM INVIDIA MRWorks (RIP) Snow Performance Giken KW Hotchkis SRP "Remember, when all else fails, don't forget to tongue punch the brown starfish"-dixon Dixon Cider's Roadster Build

03-03-2011, 07:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dembflyr Track Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 886 Drives: G37S Sedan Rep Power: 16	Nice job Sam! Now get that stage II kit out!! I'd be interested to see the pics of the removal but I understand why they would be kept private. I am just curious as to what was not right with the install. __________________ 2012 G37S Sedan 6MT - Project Practicality 2009-6MT-Sport/Touring-Dembflyr's Journal-TT Build Thread-CAR IS SOLD

03-03-2011, 07:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
prescott3656 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: MD Posts: 66 Drives: 2010 G37s Sedan Rep Power: 14	i was already sold but this certainly confirms it...

03-03-2011, 07:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
Viera Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 897 Drives: '09 M.Blue 370Z 6MT Rep Power: 264	lol dang...nice upgrade

03-03-2011, 07:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
NewYorkJon34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 3,041 Drives: 09 Fairlady Z Rep Power: 1064	I think its terrible that stillen told Eric that his car was the problem instead of their shitty kit. Thats not going to make the customer feel any better about the situation. Sam great work, the kit/numbers look spot on Signed, Future stg.2 owner

03-03-2011, 08:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
weiboy718 Track Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bay Area Posts: 923 Drives: Infiniti G37 Rep Power: 15	i want to thank Sam@GTM and his crew for doing such an beautiful job reforming it back to it's stock form, i couldn't ask for more. i bet it wasn't the easiest thing to do and i really appreciate you helping me out when i loss all hope. thank you! the car is currently running fantastic with lot's more power especially at the low end. it's definately worth the switch in my opinion and should've went with GTM from the beginning. hopefully nobody has to go through what i had to. i pretty much sold all my mods for this switch cuz i was getting very desperate and i feel my engine won't last much longer if i don't take any actions now. it's alright! hard lesson learned! for anybody that's thinking about going F.I go GTM!!!

03-03-2011, 08:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
John@Z1 The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Posts: 1,589 Drives: Turbos Rep Power: 19	Very nice! __________________ Z1 Motorsports will beat any advertised price on Nissan OEM Parts! 770-838-7777 ext 311 AIM: JohnatZ1 email: John@Z1motorsports.com

03-03-2011, 08:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
biggersNISMO Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Lakewood... Green Mtn.. Posts: 102 Drives: Z Rep Power: 15	Sam, good sh!t. I tip my hat. __________________ an awkward morning beats a boring night CONOC.NET

03-03-2011, 09:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
Jamaica A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 15,362 Drives: Under boost Rep Power: 73	wow probs to GTM

03-03-2011, 10:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
DannyGT Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jersey Posts: 919 Drives: 370Z (SOLD) Rep Power: 279	/rawr Sam - you're the man bro! Haters hate, until ** like this drops on them like a ton of bricks. __________________ Performance GTM Stage 1 SC, GTM Res.Test Pipes, Invidia Gemini Exhaust, GTM HD Oil Cooler Wheels & Suspension AME Tracer TM02's 19x9.5F 19x10.5R w/ 265x35F & 305x30R, Hotchkis Sways, BC (BR) Racing Coilovers (Car Sold)**

03-03-2011, 10:31 PM	#15 (permalink)
tiller Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: ontario Posts: 369 Drives: 09 370z touring Rep Power: 14	wow gtm sc is looking better & better for my build

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