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Hotrodz 11-20-2015 07:57 PM

Yup it is...

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tonyHTX 12-03-2015 10:25 PM

My final E85 tune, I can't get anymore than 21 PSI out of the Borgwarner EFR6758s with the medium actuators.

http://i.imgur.com/1yFCSsN.jpg

jwick 12-03-2015 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX (Post 3360045)
My final E85 tune, I can't get anymore PSI out of the Borgwarner EFR6758s with the medium actuators.

http://i.imgur.com/1yFCSsN.jpg

That's stupid power. Nice job bro!

hjo1078 12-09-2015 09:48 AM

awesome! congrats!

zguynate 12-09-2015 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX (Post 3360045)
My final E85 tune, I can't get anymore than 21 PSI out of the Borgwarner EFR6758s with the medium actuators.

http://i.imgur.com/1yFCSsN.jpg

Have you maxed out the turbos or would you need to change the actuators? I'm new to the internally gated turbos.

Z eliminator 12-09-2015 12:21 PM

Nice #'s

Z&I 12-09-2015 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX (Post 3360045)
My final E85 tune, I can't get anymore than 21 PSI out of the Borgwarner EFR6758s with the medium actuators.

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Is your motor built and 11.1 CR ???
I notice that the power/torque starts to fall off at 5000 RPM.

Is this the AAM kit ???
They use the EFR6758 but with the 0.64 housings in their kit...
These housings offer a more snappy response in the low/medium end [less turbo lag] but power drops off up top.
The 6758's are also available with 0.80 AR and 0.85 AR housings that give you more power at the top [better for racing] but you do get more turbo lag.

Mine's down there for the TT install and this is something I need to seriously consider at this point.
Thanks,

tonyHTX 12-09-2015 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 3363795)
Have you maxed out the turbos or would you need to change the actuators? I'm new to the internally gated turbos.

The actuators would need to change to be able to get more PSI. But because of the cramped spaces the motor would have to be dropped to change the actuators out. Because of the this, *IF* that ever happens I'm sure the turbos would probably be changed as well.

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Originally Posted by Z&I (Post 3363936)
Is your motor built and 11.1 CR ???
I notice that the power/torque starts to fall off at 5000 RPM.

Is this the AAM kit ???
They use the EFR6758 but with the 0.64 housings in their kit...
These housings offer a more snappy response in the low/medium end [less turbo lag] but power drops off up top.
The 6758's are also available with 0.80 AR and 0.85 AR housings that give you more power at the top [better for racing] but you do get more turbo lag.

Mine's down there for the TT install and this is something I need to seriously consider at this point.
Thanks,

The motor is built with 10:1 compression. I always thought that torque starts to fall off when HP takes over - is this not true?

I have the AAM kit with the EFR6758s in their default configuration.

Hotrodz 12-09-2015 01:42 PM

LMAO with that much power who cares :stirthepot:...nice build man!!!!

zguynate 12-09-2015 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX (Post 3363967)
The actuators would need to change to be able to get more PSI. But because of the cramped spaces the motor would have to be dropped to change the actuators out. Because of the this, *IF* that ever happens I'm sure the turbos would probably be changed as well.



The motor is built with 10:1 compression. I always thought that torque starts to fall off when HP takes over - is this not true?

Yes this I have the AAM kit with the EFR6758s in their default configuration.

Good to know. Ill be shooting for 700whp and want to make sure that I won't be choked out right under 700 lol. The turbo upgrade for the AAM kit def isn't cheap. Im still on the fence about it, but I'm leaning towards no upgrade and just maxing out the regular turbos.

Z&I 12-09-2015 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX (Post 3363967)
The actuators would need to change to be able to get more PSI. But because of the cramped spaces the motor would have to be dropped to change the actuators out. Because of the this, *IF* that ever happens I'm sure the turbos would probably be changed as well.



The motor is built with 10:1 compression. I always thought that torque starts to fall off when HP takes over - is this not true?

Yes this I have the AAM kit with the EFR6758s in their default configuration.

Thanks for your reply...
Yes ... torque falls off [affecting the rate of acceleration] when HP takes over.
Just realized that you have a G35 ... different motor than the 370.

I have been down to AAM to 'visit' my car ... and there is no room to fiddle around in that cramped motor compartment at all!
They would have to pull the motor to do any work on the Turbos.
I did speak with them and they are aware of my concerns regarding the/my need for power up top since I do plan to run the 1/4 with it.
I am running 9.5:1 CR with 1300 Injectors so I'll be needing a lot of air to keep up.
The stock Turbo's are in the car and we are waiting on a few more parts to come in before the Dyno Day arrives to see how it all works together before finalizing the decision to change the Turbos.
Probably will speak with them again regarding all this beforehand to see what is involved cost wise to do this.
In the meantime I will still be fishing for more info!
Thanks,

Z&I 12-09-2015 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 3363987)
Good to know. Ill be shooting for 700whp and want to make sure that I won't be choked out right under 700 lol. The turbo upgrade for the AAM kit def isn't cheap. Im still on the fence about it, but I'm leaning towards no upgrade and just maxing out the regular turbos.

I'm in the same situation ... what price did they give you for the upgrade?
When the car was shipped down there they didn't have that option - or they just didn't mention it to me.
Thanks,

jwick 12-09-2015 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 3363987)
Good to know. Ill be shooting for 700whp and want to make sure that I won't be choked out right under 700 lol. The turbo upgrade for the AAM kit def isn't cheap. Im still on the fence about it, but I'm leaning towards no upgrade and just maxing out the regular turbos.


You changing kits?

zguynate 12-09-2015 02:43 PM

As far as I know, Alterception is the first and only person who has purchased the upgrade so far. My knowledge on it is very limited, but I'm not sure if it is a direct turbo swap, or if something inside the turbo is swapped out, still using the original housing.

zguynate 12-09-2015 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3364044)
You changing kits?

Yeah. To reach my power goals I was going to have to buy a new turbo, get the larger 3 inch charge piping, and possibly modify the downpipe to allow more flow. I was given a pretty incredible deal (sponsorship) through AAM, so I decided to make the switch to their kit. It was a pretty unique opportunity that came at a perfect time.

jwick 12-09-2015 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 3364052)
Yeah. To reach my power goals I was going to have to buy a new turbo, get the larger 3 inch charge piping, and possibly modify the downpipe to allow more flow. I was given a pretty incredible deal (sponsorship) through AAM, so I decided to make the switch to their kit. It was a pretty unique opportunity that came at a perfect time.

Nice. If I end up with a built motor I'll likely be disappointed I didn't go TT too. Of course there wasn't a TT option for a G when I took the plunge so nothing to really regret.

zguynate 12-09-2015 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3364074)
Nice. If I end up with a built motor I'll likely be disappointed I didn't go TT too. Of course there wasn't a TT option for a G when I took the plunge so nothing to really regret.

You might just have to pioneer another solution like you did with BP :driving:

I have no issues with the BP kit by any means. After some thought and number crunching, it was actually a tad bit cheaper to switch kits believe it or not. Modifying the downpipe would have been pretty expensive, the turbo, and the new charge pipes.... after adding all of that and what I could sell the BP kit for, it was cheaper to get the AAM kit.

As part of my contract, Ill be giving my review of the AAM kit, and my experiences with both kits and how they fare against each other. It won't be apples and apples because of the different power levels, but another bit of research to help other forum members in their searches.

clkio 12-15-2015 11:29 AM

AAM just called me and told me my baby made 680WHP on 93 octane pump gas!!! will post more after the weekend

Z&I 12-15-2015 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by clkio (Post 3368190)
AAM just called me and told me my baby made 680WHP on 93 octane pump gas!!! will post more after the weekend

Built motor ?
EcuTek Tune ?
I got's to know :tiphat:
Mines goin' to the Dyno down there ~ hopefully before years end ...

clkio 12-15-2015 11:40 AM

build motor, ecutek as well! good luck buddy!!!

TerribleONE 12-15-2015 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by clkio (Post 3368190)
AAM just called me and told me my baby made 680WHP on 93 octane pump gas!!! will post more after the weekend

How much boost? Did you get a torque number?

clkio 12-15-2015 11:41 AM

17 psi, no I didn't yet

Hotrodz 12-15-2015 12:34 PM

Wow, e85 and about 6 more psi and you be looking 800 in the face. Nice numbers...

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clkio 12-15-2015 05:10 PM

thanks man. Actually, they telling me if I decide to go E85, they think it will make 775-800WHP without increasing boost.

hjo1078 12-15-2015 05:20 PM

Awesome congrats!


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Hotrodz 12-15-2015 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by clkio (Post 3368476)
thanks man. Actually, they telling me if I decide to go E85, they think it will make 775-800WHP without increasing boost.

Wow, I don't think so but I'm not a tuner and most everyone I know that has gone e85 added another 4 to 6 psi to achieve 100 more whp

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clkio 12-15-2015 07:35 PM

Didn't phunk hit extra 100hp with his switch from 93 to e85 on his turbos at 12.5 psi?

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Hotrodz 12-15-2015 08:54 PM

I'm not sure and phunk is a rear cat...if what he did was easily reproducible then why hasn't it be done?

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zguynate 12-15-2015 08:56 PM

That's awesome bro. Congrats.

jpritche 12-30-2015 05:27 PM

Just saw on Facebook that someone hit 768whp on stock internals. Is that anyone on here? It's from T1 Race Development.

Of course it's a Fast Intentions kit!

Hotrodz 12-30-2015 05:33 PM

This is going to be better than Star Wars lol. I got call bull$hit on that...

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jwick 12-30-2015 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3378769)
This is going to be better than Star Wars lol. I got call bull$hit on that...

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Anybody can number chase but it doesn't mean it'll hold together.

Hotrodz 12-30-2015 05:42 PM

Right, and then there is that thing about how the dyno is set up. Not sure I know of many V8's that can hold up to that all stock motor.

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jaytirbhaw 12-30-2015 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jpritche (Post 3378767)
Just saw on Facebook that someone hit 778whp on stock internals. Is that anyone on here? It's from T1 Race Development.

Of course it's a Fast Intentions kit!

any link/ info ?

jpritche 12-30-2015 06:04 PM

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...5685587&type=3



Here is the link.

jwick 12-30-2015 07:30 PM

Has Tony confirmed this yet?

Hotrodz 12-30-2015 07:35 PM

I haven't heard from him or Kevin...

Hotrodz 12-30-2015 07:42 PM

I do think they can make over 700whp with a stage two kit pretty easily, and that stock internals could hold up for a run or two maybe, but time will tell on how long that engine will last after those pulls. There is a reason that even with built engines those serious dragsters rebuild and replace things after single run or two. That's just a lot of stress on the rods and pistons.

6mt370 12-31-2015 04:25 PM

The owner of that car does realize that the motor can/will blow at any given time and is ready to build it when it does. I'm not impressed. Anyone can throw a car on the dyno and let it fly like that. Doesn't mean it will hold.

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