Superchargers for the 370Z?

LiquidZ · 07-21-2009, 05:57 PM

I figured I should post this here:

As far as exhaust size is concerned, what size exhaust would be ideal for a centrifugal supercharger?

Togo · 07-21-2009, 06:26 PM

As i under stand it 2.5" should be fine. THe idea of a 3"+ on turbo apps is that it creates a low pressure area. The high pressure gases on the exhaust manifold side then rush over the turbines to the low pressure side (Highs to Lows always, basic physics) which moves more air faster over the turbine blades themselves (turbine blades are essential small lift producing devices) spooling it up faster.

I'm guessing 2.5 should be fine for a SC application but maybe a 2.75 would be better? Might have more to do with how much power you are trying to make and thus how much fuel you'll be burning. More fuel burned would equal more exhaust gas to flow, no?

NewYorkJon34 · 07-23-2009, 11:23 PM

What kind of stats can we expect from the stillen s/c kit, any estimates on hp/tq, 0-60 times, etc...?

One_Quick_Z · 07-25-2009, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34

What kind of stats can we expect from the stillen s/c kit, any estimates on hp/tq, 0-60 times, etc...?

Nobody knows anything yet except the people working for Stillen

If you base it on the 350Z type of Supercharger then you would be seeing ruffly 80-100whp with complimenting bolt-ons Exhaust TP Headers

DAN

LiquidZ · 07-27-2009, 10:12 AM

I didn't see this posted...

Supercharger for G37 coupe and more pictures from Japan - MyG37

nogoodname · 07-27-2009, 12:52 PM

looks awesome and fits under the hood...well, take out the foam and stuff

Red370 · 07-27-2009, 01:22 PM

the company that makes that kit is called ORC, they had one for the G35, supposedly good for 456whp, w the VQ37, 500whp seems reasonable.

john370z · 07-28-2009, 08:47 PM

I have a concern and would love to get some of your opinions.... GTM and Stillen offer FI kits for the 350 that offer "mild" gains in the namesake of being "safe" GTM, for $8,000 offers 50 hp and 60 ft lbs of torque. I think Stillen stage one is about the same. Am I the only one that thinks this is REALLY steep for those gains.

In my opinion if Stillen is to come out with a FI Supercharger kit, the "safe" gains would have to be at least 75 whp and over 75 ft lbs of torque. And the price should be under $7500 all done....everything needed for a proper install and tune. I mean worst case scenario! Guys at Stillen can you comment on this logic? Anything with less gains or greater price would cause me any MANY others I know to be happy with our cars power or wait and buy our next car with more power from the factory. Maybe this is just a rant....thoughts???

Josh@STILLEN · 07-28-2009, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john370z

I have a concern and would love to get some of your opinions.... GTM and Stillen offer FI kits for the 350 that offer "mild" gains in the namesake of being "safe" GTM, for $8,000 offers 50 hp and 60 ft lbs of torque. I think Stillen stage one is about the same. Am I the only one that thinks this is REALLY steep for those gains.

In my opinion if Stillen is to come out with a FI Supercharger kit, the "safe" gains would have to be at least 75 whp and over 75 ft lbs of torque. And the price should be under $7500 all done....everything needed for a proper install and tune. I mean worst case scenario! Guys at Stillen can you comment on this logic? Anything with less gains or greater price would cause me any MANY others I know to be happy with our cars power or wait and buy our next car with more power from the factory. Maybe this is just a rant....thoughts???

I can't comment.. but I can say that I think you'll be happy..

But keep in mind.. we sold ALMOST NO stage 1 supercharger kits. That was a non-intercooled kit, and was purely for price. We didn't even offer them for later flavors of the VQ35.

We'll have more details soon.. and the goal is all of the additional benefits.. CARB approval.. engine warranty.. bolt-on reliability.. all the good stuff.

Buddy Revell · 07-29-2009, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN

I can't comment.. but I can say that I think you'll be happy..

But keep in mind.. we sold ALMOST NO stage 1 supercharger kits. That was a non-intercooled kit, and was purely for price. We didn't even offer them for later flavors of the VQ35.

We'll have more details soon.. and the goal is all of the additional benefits.. CARB approval.. engine warranty.. bolt-on reliability.. all the good stuff.

Hmmm...so at least +75 hp and 75 ft.lbs. of torque, huh? Can't wait for more info. CARB legality and engine warranty is definitely a plus!

Buddy Revell · 08-06-2009, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN

I can't comment.. but I can say that I think you'll be happy..

But keep in mind.. we sold ALMOST NO stage 1 supercharger kits. That was a non-intercooled kit, and was purely for price. We didn't even offer them for later flavors of the VQ35.

We'll have more details soon.. and the goal is all of the additional benefits.. CARB approval.. engine warranty.. bolt-on reliability.. all the good stuff.

Are you allowed to post some pics of the system? That would be great.

armensti · 07-31-2009, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john370z

I have a concern and would love to get some of your opinions.... GTM and Stillen offer FI kits for the 350 that offer "mild" gains in the namesake of being "safe" GTM, for $8,000 offers 50 hp and 60 ft lbs of torque. I think Stillen stage one is about the same. Am I the only one that thinks this is REALLY steep for those gains.

In my opinion if Stillen is to come out with a FI Supercharger kit, the "safe" gains would have to be at least 75 whp and over 75 ft lbs of torque. And the price should be under $7500 all done....everything needed for a proper install and tune. I mean worst case scenario! Guys at Stillen can you comment on this logic? Anything with less gains or greater price would cause me any MANY others I know to be happy with our cars power or wait and buy our next car with more power from the factory. Maybe this is just a rant....thoughts???

your right but the reason why their so expensive is because you get a CARB
supercharger and the warranty, thats about it. i dont find it reasonable to pay 7k for 75 hp and 75 trq

if you think about it your spending 7000 dollars so shouldnt you get at least 150-200 hp?

tt kits should go for 5-6k (if it gives you 300-350hp) but superchargers should go for 3-4k (if it gives you 200-250hp) that would be a reasonable price for me.

another thing is it would be the first supercharger out so there is no doubt that its going to cost an arm and a leg.

GMZ · 07-28-2009, 08:51 PM

Im tellin you guys twin Rotrex's would be the tits!

Minicobra1 · 07-28-2009, 11:08 PM

How bout this one

370z4Steve · 07-29-2009, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minicobra1

How bout this one

Wow where did that come from? Who makes it?

07-21-2009, 05:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
LiquidZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,940 Drives: Mag. Black 2009 370Z Rep Power: 706	I figured I should post this here: As far as exhaust size is concerned, what size exhaust would be ideal for a centrifugal supercharger? __________________

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LiquidZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,940 Drives: Mag. Black 2009 370Z Rep Power: 706	I didn't see this posted... Supercharger for G37 coupe and more pictures from Japan - MyG37 __________________

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john370z Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: new mexico Posts: 141 Drives: 2007 335i coupe Rep Power: 285	I have a concern and would love to get some of your opinions.... GTM and Stillen offer FI kits for the 350 that offer "mild" gains in the namesake of being "safe" GTM, for $8,000 offers 50 hp and 60 ft lbs of torque. I think Stillen stage one is about the same. Am I the only one that thinks this is REALLY steep for those gains. In my opinion if Stillen is to come out with a FI Supercharger kit, the "safe" gains would have to be at least 75 whp and over 75 ft lbs of torque. And the price should be under $7500 all done....everything needed for a proper install and tune. I mean worst case scenario! Guys at Stillen can you comment on this logic? Anything with less gains or greater price would cause me any MANY others I know to be happy with our cars power or wait and buy our next car with more power from the factory. Maybe this is just a rant....thoughts??? __________________ 2009 370Z, Had Berk HFC and un-installed them cuz too noisy!, Stillen CBE, 10mm rear wheel spacer, K&N drop in filters. Blower to come...

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07-21-2009, 06:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
Togo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: E. Northport, NY Posts: 7,597 Drives: Stuff Rep Power: 659	As i under stand it 2.5" should be fine. THe idea of a 3"+ on turbo apps is that it creates a low pressure area. The high pressure gases on the exhaust manifold side then rush over the turbines to the low pressure side (Highs to Lows always, basic physics) which moves more air faster over the turbine blades themselves (turbine blades are essential small lift producing devices) spooling it up faster. I'm guessing 2.5 should be fine for a SC application but maybe a 2.75 would be better? Might have more to do with how much power you are trying to make and thus how much fuel you'll be burning. More fuel burned would equal more exhaust gas to flow, no?

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NewYorkJon34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 3,041 Drives: 09 Fairlady Z Rep Power: 1066	What kind of stats can we expect from the stillen s/c kit, any estimates on hp/tq, 0-60 times, etc...?

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Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 297	the company that makes that kit is called ORC, they had one for the G35, supposedly good for 456whp, w the VQ37, 500whp seems reasonable.