STILLEN 370Z Supercharger System - Announcement!!!

LateralG'z · 07-28-2010, 04:47 PM

what are all the people who dont live in CA going to do who cant just drive on down to stillen. It should just be an install ecu reflash and the advertised horsepower + or - 5% for some condition variations. not get it and have problems and wait two extra weeks.
I can understand there frustrations and totally side with them.
[QUOTE=weiboy718;648926]

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Originally Posted by tomnavone

Hmmmmm! Weird! I made a tad more power than you did and mine is a G37 and I only have an CBE.

When I first got my kit installed I was running into problems too. Just like you, mad as hell! I understand your frustrations. So then I contacted Josh@Stillen and he was the most helpful guy I encountered. He walked me through all the troubles I was running into and got me going within a week or 2. I think you just gotta be a little more patience and chill. Your car will be fine and will make that power they advertised. Worse case is just drive it down to them. That is exactly what I did and they fixed everything and treated me well while my stay.

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weiboy718 · 07-28-2010, 07:07 PM

[QUOTE=LateralG'z;649021]what are all the people who dont live in CA going to do who cant just drive on down to stillen. It should just be an install ecu reflash and the advertised horsepower + or - 5% for some condition variations. not get it and have problems and wait two extra weeks.
I can understand there frustrations and totally side with them.
just saying cuz i see that he's local to me and he have options to take it there. sorry if i offended you in anyway!

Lug · 07-28-2010, 11:35 PM

[QUOTE=LateralG'z;649021]what are all the people who dont live in CA going to do who cant just drive on down to stillen. It should just be an install ecu reflash and the advertised horsepower + or - 5% for some condition variations. not get it and have problems and wait two extra weeks.
I can understand there frustrations and totally side with them.

But a lot of assumptions are being made. His car is not a standard set up and he's assuming Stillen and not his shop is to blame for his low numbers. If taking it to Stillen fixes it like in weiboy718's case, I'd have to assume that something was installed or setup incorrectly in the first place. If a special tune is need because he has other mods, he can't expect the kit to magically account for that. I guess I'm saying there is a lot of Stillen bashing going on w/o enough evidence that Stillen is even the problem here. I'm also not saying they aren't, just not enough facts to start pointing fingers to date.

tomnavone · 07-28-2010, 11:42 PM

^^ Everyone that has installed this kit has had promblems and no one is close to the advertised power except stillens cheerleader rcz. Lets see some dynos that have made the numbers stillen has.

toner123 · 07-29-2010, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tomnavone

^^ Everyone that has installed this kit has had promblems and no one is close to the advertised power except stillens cheerleader rcz. Lets see some dynos that have made the numbers stillen has.

Thats going to start some ****, standing by for the show

Zsteve · 07-29-2010, 12:35 AM

[QUOTE=Lug;649881]

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Originally Posted by LateralG'z

what are all the people who dont live in CA going to do who cant just drive on down to stillen. It should just be an install ecu reflash and the advertised horsepower + or - 5% for some condition variations. not get it and have problems and wait two extra weeks.
I can understand there frustrations and totally side with them.

But a lot of assumptions are being made. His car is not a standard set up and he's assuming Stillen and not his shop is to blame for his low numbers. If taking it to Stillen fixes it like in weiboy718's case, I'd have to assume that something was installed or setup incorrectly in the first place. If a special tune is need because he has other mods, he can't expect the kit to magically account for that. I guess I'm saying there is a lot of Stillen bashing going on w/o enough evidence that Stillen is even the problem here. I'm also not saying they aren't, just not enough facts to start pointing fingers to date.

I wouldnt call it a special tune just to account for a couple extra mods. Tunes account for different mods all the time. There should be a tune for most common mods, like CAI, CBE etc.

LateralG'z · 07-29-2010, 04:54 AM

[QUOTE=Zsteve;649934]

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Originally Posted by Lug

I wouldnt call it a special tune just to account for a couple extra mods. Tunes account for different mods all the time. There should be a tune for most common mods, like CAI, CBE etc.

I would agree with this statement^^^^. Their (STILLEN) car had cats with CBE so by removing the cats they should free up some flow and actually gain power off the original canned tune. They might be running a little leaner with LTH or test pipes but for most part the cats are the major restriction in our systems. They could easily have a tune for cats & one with LTH or test pipes and that would cover the rest because that is the only real restriction once you have the kit. Doesnt seem like rocket science to me. Also I am willing to be 95% or more that any of us who bought the TT or SC kits have after market cats, exhaust, intakes etc... Just a thought for a better business plan. Dont get me wrong I like stillen, I chose them after seeing how not so great GTM's TT kits go together for 350z. I know I will be happy with my decision once we have my car tuned and done.

weiboy718 · 07-29-2010, 08:43 AM

[QUOTE=LateralG'z;650189]

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

I would agree with this statement^^^^. Their (STILLEN) car had cats with CBE so by removing the cats they should free up some flow and actually gain power off the original canned tune. They might be running a little leaner with LTH or test pipes but for most part the cats are the major restriction in our systems. They could easily have a tune for cats & one with LTH or test pipes and that would cover the rest because that is the only real restriction once you have the kit. Doesnt seem like rocket science to me. Also I am willing to be or more that any of us who bought the TT or SC kits have after market cats, exhaust, intakes etc... Just a thought for a better business plan. Dont get me wrong I like stillen, I chose them after seeing how not so great GTM's TT kits go together for 350z. I know I will be happy with my decision once we have my car tuned and done.

The last time I tried asking to see if I can get HFC and a tune for it the answer is no. We have the carb kit and it's illegal in CA. That's the answer I got lol. So I don't get how can others have HFCs and still good for carb in CA.

LateralG'z · 07-29-2010, 09:11 AM

The last time I tried asking to see if I can get HFC and a tune for it the answer is no. We have the carb kit and it's illegal in CA. That's the answer I got lol. So I don't get how can others have HFCs and still good for carb in CA.[/QUOTE]

They are not and they dont know what they are talking about. You have to have Cats to be carb legal. The cats are the emissions control. HFC are not legal. They have to absorb and reduce so much NOX, CO, CO2 etc. you can only changed the cbe part to meet emissions.

Nitex · 07-29-2010, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by LateralG'z

The last time I tried asking to see if I can get HFC and a tune for it the answer is no. We have the carb kit and it's illegal in CA. That's the answer I got lol. So I don't get how can others have HFCs and still good for carb in CA.

So my brother tried to convince me that in Washington now all cars 09 and up do not require emissions!!!!

Side note: He just drove his new EVO X up from cali with test pipes.. But he had to admit my Z was faster hahah.. Time for pre mod kill!

weiboy718 · 07-29-2010, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by weiboy718

Its only illegal if you get caught.

Living in Cali is very easy to get caught now. I even heard CHP officers have a device to measure your cats temp lol. Last year I got pulled over for just having my CBE. Cop didn't even hear it whether its loud or not. He say my tips are too big then asked me to pop my hood. Luckily I was all stock at that time. But yeah, things got really strict here recently. Hopefully we get the CARB sticker asap!

Zsteve · 07-29-2010, 02:45 PM

[QUOTE=weiboy718;650856]

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

Living in Cali is very easy to get caught now. I even heard CHP officers have a device to measure your cats temp lol. Last year I got pulled over for just having my CBE. Cop didn't even hear it whether its loud or not. He say my tips are too big then asked me to pop my hood. Luckily I was all stock at that time. But yeah, things got really strict here recently. Hopefully we get the CARB sticker asap!

so you can smoke dope but not have a carb legal CBE or HFC? Cali is getting backwards. So why do the motorcycles get to be so loud and not cars?

Lug · 07-29-2010, 10:39 AM

[QUOTE=LateralG'z;650189]

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

I would agree with this statement^^^^. Their (STILLEN) car had cats with CBE so by removing the cats they should free up some flow and actually gain power off the original canned tune.

No, it's my understanding that you need the correct back pressure when using an SC setup. When you significantly change the back pressure, you need to change the tune.

LiquidZ · 07-29-2010, 10:50 AM

[QUOTE=Lug;650522]

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Originally Posted by LateralG'z

No, it's my understanding that you need the correct back pressure when using an SC setup. When you significantly change the back pressure, you need to change the tune.

This is a hot topic on this forum. I personally don't agree that you need back pressure to run an SC on any car.

Zsteve · 07-29-2010, 01:11 PM

[QUOTE=LiquidZ;650558]

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Originally Posted by Lug

This is a hot topic on this forum. I personally don't agree that you need back pressure to run an SC on any car.

Now I know a turbo will create some of its own back pressure and that is why you can go to a 3 inch full exhaust, so does a SC create its own back pressure too like a turbo?

07-28-2010, 11:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
Lug A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,926 Drives: 2006 350Z Rep Power: 21	[QUOTE=LateralG'z;649021]what are all the people who dont live in CA going to do who cant just drive on down to stillen. It should just be an install ecu reflash and the advertised horsepower + or - 5% for some condition variations. not get it and have problems and wait two extra weeks. I can understand there frustrations and totally side with them. But a lot of assumptions are being made. His car is not a standard set up and he's assuming Stillen and not his shop is to blame for his low numbers. If taking it to Stillen fixes it like in weiboy718's case, I'd have to assume that something was installed or setup incorrectly in the first place. If a special tune is need because he has other mods, he can't expect the kit to magically account for that. I guess I'm saying there is a lot of Stillen bashing going on w/o enough evidence that Stillen is even the problem here. I'm also not saying they aren't, just not enough facts to start pointing fingers to date. __________________ keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs

07-28-2010, 11:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
tomnavone Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: S.F. Bay Area Posts: 723 Drives: Supercharged 370z Rep Power: 19	^^ Everyone that has installed this kit has had promblems and no one is close to the advertised power except stillens cheerleader rcz. Lets see some dynos that have made the numbers stillen has. __________________ GTM Supercharger/HKS Camp2/Berk cbe/Motordyne art pipes/Hotchkis sways/ Eibach Springs/ Black Volk TE37/Bridgestone S-04 Powered by Last edited by tomnavone; 07-28-2010 at 11:49 PM.

07-29-2010, 09:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
LateralG'z Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 876 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 18	The last time I tried asking to see if I can get HFC and a tune for it the answer is no. We have the carb kit and it's illegal in CA. That's the answer I got lol. So I don't get how can others have HFCs and still good for carb in CA.[/QUOTE] They are not and they dont know what they are talking about. You have to have Cats to be carb legal. The cats are the emissions control. HFC are not legal. They have to absorb and reduce so much NOX, CO, CO2 etc. you can only changed the cbe part to meet emissions. __________________ 2010 Mag Black, 6MT,

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07-28-2010, 07:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
weiboy718 Track Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bay Area Posts: 923 Drives: Infiniti G37 Rep Power: 18	[QUOTE=LateralG'z;649021]what are all the people who dont live in CA going to do who cant just drive on down to stillen. It should just be an install ecu reflash and the advertised horsepower + or - 5% for some condition variations. not get it and have problems and wait two extra weeks. I can understand there frustrations and totally side with them. just saying cuz i see that he's local to me and he have options to take it there. sorry if i offended you in anyway!