has anyone else got the email because i never got it

Just got back after installing the seventh tune. This might be the worst tune yet. The Top end is better than tune 6 but it falls off very fast. The low end sucks compared to tune 6. The car is almost undrivable with the newest tune.. With tune seven my numbers are 397hp and 293lb/toque with tune 6 my numbers are 276hp and 299lb/toque. I reverted back to tune 6 because at least that one is drivable. Im officially throwing in the towel i dont want to wait for any more tunes. I believe seven tunes and three months with the supercharger installed is ample time to figure this out. I have decided to go a different FI route. I have requested for my money back from stillen with no response yet. I hear everyone say how great stillen is and how they stand behind their products. I hope in my case they stand behind their product and give me back my money. Will post dynos later.

Sorry to hear man. It's going to suck to uninstall the supercharger. Did you have to do much cutting to the car?

Jeez 7 revs remote tuning in my living room I can get a vehicle converted to E85 with a GT35 and all sorts of goodies, you have been far too patient, hope you get what you want but I feel a refund will be tough as it will open the flood gates, keep us informed.
Glad I was skint and held of initially.
Good luck dude.

take it to GTM.

That sucks.. Kinda sad when tuned camaros and mustangs are doing over 100 more hp & tq than you.

Kinda sucks when a 5.0l V8 is putting out more power than a 3.7l V6 with a severely broken tune on a S/C kit? Or a 4000lb Camaro is making 400hp...:shakes head:

Let's not forget the part where people don't buy Z's for striaght line stuff and if they do they are just wasting time and money.

Why are you even here if you just want to poke fun at somebody whos having a dififcult time getting the advertised result of a product he paid for?

Plenty of 350s with TT kits that will blow the doors off a 5.0 or SS. Built 350 TT is no joke. Our cars will be there sooner or later. Just takes time for R&D, albeit some more time than others..

I'm constantly surprised how underrated the 370z is. My brother in his tuned EVO X is now a believer. Even if his forum is full of haters and naysayers.

But for the same amount of money, you could build a stang to blow the doors, roof and the hood off our Z's/G's. The Stang is a much better dragger platform, give the Z its twisties and it will shine.. or will it not?

Ok well i cant really argue with that. But lets be honest, people spend A LOT more money on cars slower than a modded mustang, and would never consider a modded mustang. Even if they prefer straight line speed /shrug. To each their own.

*just to clarify/not hurt m4a1's feelings :icon17: I am not someone that wouldn't consider the mustang. I was just making a point about people with deep pockets that don't mind spending the dough.

Lets just hope Stillen resolves all these problems sooner rather than later. :rolleyes:

Yeah but all i'm saying is people get our cars confused for porsches, whereas mustangs are confused for older used mustangs, and camaro's are either confused for dodge stratus' (98-2001) or toys that turn into robots.

Perhaps, but it would cost less money to make a mustang faster.

My point is that this car vs that car has no place in this thread, this is about people sorting out this stillen mess. Which i'm very interested in as the first kit that shows it can meet its advertised numbers consistently will be the one getting my money.

Not making fun..I'm frustrated for him. I want to go forced induction with my 370. The aftermarket is just so slow with this car and now we have have a charger that's out but doesn't work. :ugh2: Have you driven a new mustang or camaro? The days of saying "I'll get you in the twisties" are over.

The new stangs are pretty cool but there is nothing desireable about the new camaro. They weigh 4000lbs...enough said. You even have to get the SS to get to 400hp. :icon14:

Not getting into a vs's battle here. Just putting up the correct stats for the camaro. The weight of the camaro is 3800 and it doesn't matter if it's a pig when it's got 426 hp and 420 lb.-ft. of torque.

3913 - SS automatic
3860 - SS manual

Thats pretty fat.

I just don't like them at all. I like the 5.0 stangs though.

Wow!!!! Talk about a complete change in attitude about Stillen and their supercharger kit between page 1 & this last page!!!!!! Take a look starting with page 1 and it's nothing but excitement & pure praise for Stillen. Then jump here to the last page and it's doom and gloom.

Looks like the guys from Stillen went from being heros to being the enemy. Are they even posting as frequently in this thread now that's it's gone South for them?

It looks to me like Stormcrow should have been taken more seriously for his questions concerning this supercharger kit and not been hassled so much for doing so.

Exactly what I've been thinking all along.

Sounds like the 'extensive testing' was & is still being done by the first customers/guinea pigs that purchased the kit.

This all sounds so much like what people have said in the past about software companies prematurely releasing thier software before it's properly tested and had most of the bugs worked out of it.

I was pretty interested in this kit when I started off reading this thread, but now I'm most definitely NOT interested.

do u guys do installs at ur place and if so how much for labor plus the supercharger

N /A mine with bolt ons 12.8009 Z eliminator
J naut 12.68 with same bolt ons not slow at all

No S/c problems at all with bolt ons.

Do you plan still going the FI route after this experience? I'd just say F it, go TT...

Best of luck to you. What a HORRIBLE experience.

Back on post. I hope both companies get thier SC working cause I want one next winter. :stirthepot:

I cant turn back now. Thinking TT:driving: Just waiting to see if stillen stands behind their products and grants my request for a refund

No offense, but the hardware isnt really the problem. Why dont you ask them instead of a refund to get a reputable tuner shop in your area, and have them do a custom tune for your vehicle. Have them refund you the money for the tune you paid for and pay for the new one.

I cant believe people have not done this yet, at least this way everyones car will be set and can move on. I think custom tunes are a little safer, and you can get the most power out of your vehicle.

Carb compliance and warranty thats y more people arent doing the custom tune. No offense taken:tup:[

another thing is there is not a single tuner out here that'll tune our car/kit. :shakes head:

Doesn't Stillen use Uprev software for the ECU? Uprev has a list of tuners on their site. I think a couple are in Northern Cali. Have you checked this out?
UpRev - Engine Management

i checked already lol!

Zcargarage and GP Motorwerks is the only ones in my area. i brought my car to GP for a dyno and asked him can he do a custom tune already, his response was he probably can't tune that. i guess it's all too new and there is no base map for us and they don't wanna blow up our engines and get's blamed haha.

well rcz got custom tuned so maybe you should ask him if there was anything special he or his shop had to do.

man, i'd wished i can get a full custom tune. i live in San Francisco cali and i need to be CARB legal and warranty. not willing to risk it!:tiphat:

2 uprev cables? one for the stillen and one for the custom tune that way you can tune it revert it to stock and throw the locked stillen tune on it

haha! that's pretty much considered cheating Stillen lol! you do know that Stillen and Uprev has partner up right. i'm guessing if we buy the license Uprev will know about it and will let Stillen know right away. don't you think?:hello:

Any tuner with any experience can tune this, its nothing special. If they say they can't tune it, stay far far away.

:iagree: I've got a reputable installer/tuner in MD if anyone is local to that area looking to get this done.

I don't aim to do this, but doesn't the hardware bear the CARB certification numbers on them? That means that you could theoretically get the Stillen tune and CARB certification and then run to an independent tuner to get it custom tuned. Is there anything I am missing other than the fact that it is cheating the system?

the reflash stillen sends is locked though, on the uprev and stillen thing in the off chance that uprev is going to report cable purchases to stillen, have your buddy buy the cable and get it shipped to his house with the tuner license then grab it and run to an independent shop and get it tuned.

There is absolutely no way that uprev will report anything. They are under no legal obligation to do so and a sale is a sale. It is the car owner's responsibility to maintain the specs of the kit to comply with CARB. Stillen isn't going to refuse to sell you different pulleys after the fact or report you to the police for ordering one either.

Damn Cali laws lol! Oh wells, I'm hanging in there with Stillens program in hopes they'll come up with more perfection tunes for us.

Maybe in a couple of years when its time for me to SC the Z all the bugs will be worked out LOL