Really you dont? :stirthepot:

Yeah, I asked a few times, both here and on the gtm thread, and no one could answer. I'm curious, but not enough to get into an argument over who has dynoed and who hasnt. I personally couldnt find any of the "plenty of numbers" on the g37 forums. I was gonna push the issue, but meh.

So yeah, really, I don't. Go stir somewhere else.

45 seconds on the G forum:
GTM Performance Engineering Stage 1 Turn key Supercharger kit In house Install - MyG37
GTM Performance Engineering Stage 1 Turn key Supercharger kit In house Instal II - MyG37

Really it was not that hard to find these, and I did not even use the search function.

^^^ nice lol

How do you say there are multiple installs on myg37 and than post the only two we have seen so far, SAME installs that have been posted already here on this site? Kinda shooting your self in the foot with that one. Personally I searched myg37 for a bit and was also only able to find those two installs.

I as well am very curious to see outside installs and numbers once the issues get sorted, for both Stillen and GTM.

What issues for GTM?
The only thing you could say against GTM is they are 'upgrading' a piece of piping in hopes to the system even better than it is already.

The two very minor issues noted by Sam in the GTM thread...


They are indeed minor but if the pipe is restricting high RPM boost than we aren't going to see true dyno numbers of what the kit can really do.

None of the issues are causing major issues like Stillen, and one of them is Sam improving the design to help with people wanting to use LTHs (which was never part of the original design). The other issue I have not seen yet anyone report besides Sam now.

Notice that I never implied that they were? All I said is if the pipe is restricting boost like Sam him self has said than we aren't going to see true numbers which I am very curious to see once this part is upgraded/fixed.

I don't care at all to get into the Stillen Vs. GTM debate, I just want to see what these kits are really capable of in order to help me spend my money when the time comes.

Also on the note of the LTHs, I am very eager to see what results you have achieved in the testing you are performing.

:iagree: I'm with you! :iagree:

Sam has alot of different projects going on, GTM is far from being one dimensional. 370Z, G37, 350Z, and G35 GTM S/C kits.

GTM Performance Engineering 350Z HR SUPERCHARGER KIT PRESS RELEASE - Page 5 - MY350Z.COM Forums

GTM Supercharger Kit - Page 10 - G35Driver

Is the GTM thread as full of Stillen stuff as this thread is full of GTM stuff? :rolleyes:

of course it's a Stillen thread lol

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Those dyno runs look pretty consistent with the power levels seen by Stillen customers here. If they had avoided overrating their power outputs, it would be a somewhat different story.

As a point of comparison, his output is 26hp lower than Stillen's advertised output. However, making the same comparison with te GTM kit, the best output is 62 hp lower than advertised. I say that based on Shumby having the highest output at 390 hp and GTM's claim of 452 whp. If you have other figures, please post the link to the dyno chart because I can't find any other dyno #'s from other forum users that have the GTM kit.

but don't forget Shumby is only pushing 6psi

Good point, I haven't seen much in the way of results of the various staged GTM kits so I don't have a point of reference. Torque is still down 40-50ftlbs with the Stillen kit though, but I guess time will tell once more people from both kits get their cars up and running. At least I hope issues with both brands get sorted by the time I go FI!

WTF? What do you people not understand. I am making 390HP and 350 TQ. only running the 6 PSI pully. THIS was MY choise. I did not want to put the full power of this kit on my AT. The kit does give what Sam advertized. After over 7000 miles on the kit i now am willing to go the 8 PSI pully route and see what happens to the tranny. I was not willing to take this risk on the 2300 mile in 24hr trip i have to make back to canada from cali on a newly installed SC. Plus i had to get back for work so I could not accept a delay or i would be fired for missing my flights. So again the kit does put the clamed numbers down. I choise to go lower for personel reasons. Sorry if I could not satisfy you guys be seeing if over 350 Ft/Lbs would blowup my tranny. Sorry but was not going to be that test pig.

how is GTM TQ down 40-50 ft/lbs? I am making 350 @ 6 psi this is 40-50 more then the stillen kit with 2 psi less boost. Seems people are just making up crap now.

for sure dude! I know exactly how you feel about that. When I picked up my car at Stillen the other day I didn't even gun it to see how it feels. I simply wanted to get home and test it out later. I too did not want to break anything while driving home for 7 hours.

Shumby, your car made very decent power. I like it a lot. :tup:

Ya the power is nice 390 to the wheels is nice i can really notice it. I am sure the stillen boy reqaly notice the 410 ish they get too. Seems we always want more though don't it? lol ohwell that ias the price you pay once the FI bug hits.

How's my Canadian Cousin ? My stage two is coming nicely acording to Sam. Hopefully it should be under christmas tree this year. 460 to 480 is the target.

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410 is good! Wished it can have 20 more lbs me tq

nice. if I can trust the tranny on this i might go stage 2 as well. Will be nice when he gets the beta testing done on the LTJH too so i can put them back on

I meant the Stillen kit is still down 40-50ft/lbs, not GTM. I was just basing that off the dyno sheets on the previous page, sorry for not being specific in my last post.

^^^ got ya sounds good. I think it was i that was confused

weiboy I don't understand something. GTM on their site state:

Stage zero up to 450 HP (carb approval in progress)
Stage one up to 500 HP
Stage two up to 550 HP

Therefore shouldn't your stage 2 fall somewhere between 500 and 550HP? Or were you talking about WHP? If you were, my bad.

:confused:

I have the Stillen kit

i think he ment z eliminator. lol

THat's what I thought too lol.

Its at the fly wheel , the 450 is RWHP.

Yeah I did mean Z eliminator, good pickup.

weiboy718 quoting him threw me.

How embarrassing. :shakes head:

yeah, that was funny! I was like huh, wtf is he talking about Hahaha

I was e-mailed a new tune today. We will see how that works out.

i havent gotten it=-\

I havn't gotten one either

Osiris have u gotten the new tune?

Test

That's a big negatory on new tunage. Only thing i got recently was an email last week to make sure the intake Y pipe is parallel with the radiator (which mine is). Other than that, the dealership (where my car is sitting) has been trying to get in contact with Stillen to figure out what's next.

i'm about ready to send the kit back and put my car back to stock because i just want to be able to drive my dam car....3 months...i have no more patience.

Understandable. Stillen wants me to do some data logging and send them that info. Perhaps next year ill be able to enjoy the supercharger

Hey guys,

new to the Forum. Just want to let everyone know I have the Stillen SC kit since May.
But have only driven the Z one week. Grounded the rest of the time.
After 1 new transmission (not at my cost), Rev 6 on the tune program, new Y intakes with new baffles welded into it to straighten out the air to the MAF's, new bypass orifice back to the compressor, the car still jerks around at low speed and the new tranny shifts into failsafe. Just frustrating. All work was done through the Dealer which honors the warranty. On a first name basis now with the Stillen folks and the car is being checked thoroughly at at Uprev in Austin. So, the message is not all success stories out there. Luck of the draw? Who knows? But maybe later I can post the details if anyone is interested. The most embarrasing thing of all this is that the Loaner car I have been driving is a Nissan Cube. Had it so long I have put over 4K on it, myself.
I used to the aggressor on the highway when the Z was new. But now, I have been ran over, flipped off, laughed at and just plain outrun on the road. Man. So, if your car is working good right now, remember, there is always someone else out there that is not. So..I will try to look back at this string and catch up some.

Later...Buzz.