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Originally Posted by phunk In a short-sighted sense, consumers do benefit from the race-to-the-bottom pricing that is sparked by copy cats like Z1... but it is not the sort of

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Old 05-22-2023, 08:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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In a short-sighted sense, consumers do benefit from the race-to-the-bottom pricing that is sparked by copy cats like Z1... but it is not the sort of competition you are thinking of.

It isn't like they are bringing competition in regards to development and progress to the platform. They are merely providing mildly reinterpreted versions of products you already had access to. They have contributed virtually nothing as far as performance achievements, problem solving, or innovation. Especially when you consider the scale of that company and their resources.

Compare them to businesses of a similar scale that specialize in other platforms such as Supras or GTRs or etc, and Z1 suddenly looks pretty weak sauce. With every other platform, the big heavy hitters are dropping innovation left and right; new/unique power adders, highly engineered intake manifolds, engine programs that solve problems, drivetrain engineering, etc etc. Meanwhile over here we have Z1, 20 years in on the VQ and they are releasing catback exhausts, cold air intakes, strut tower bars, cheap chinese coilovers, and copying anything they can get their hands on from small businesses.

Yup, Mr. Squeeze and I have been talking about this for over a year. The same players have moved from the 350z, to the 370z and now to the new Z doing the same old thing. They will innovate to a point and then throw their hands in the air. Vinney Ten came back on the scene and ran a 8.65 in the quarter mile in his 350z this last week. Where are all the big players in the Z community? Selling/doing the same old thing.

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