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Originally Posted by Spooler Went out playing this morning in the cool weather. No traction. This is going to be tough. At what temperature do you start seeing a significant

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Old 10-17-2019, 01:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Went out playing this morning in the cool weather. No traction. This is going to be tough.
At what temperature do you start seeing a significant decrease in traction Spooler?
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At what temperature do you start seeing a significant decrease in traction Spooler?
When it went from 90's to 80s. Now it has gone from 80's to 70's-60. The colder it get's the longer warm up time on the tires. It looks like rain Saturday in Ocala. Not happy.
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When it went from 90's to 80s. Now it has gone from 80's to 70's-60. The colder it get's the longer warm up time on the tires. It looks like rain Saturday in Ocala. Not happy.
Oh any wetness is gonna be nerve wrecking for a run of this type....best of luck and stay safe.

On the other hand, there’s always a next time, plenty of other chances to achieve your goal.
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Spooler, be carefully bud.
Driving my car and careful don't belong in the same sentence. Hotrodz will know what I am talking about in not too much longer.

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When it went from 90's to 80s. Now it has gone from 80's to 70's-60. The colder it get's the longer warm up time on the tires. It looks like rain Saturday in Ocala. Not happy.
Al said it should be dry in the morning. Either have to send it sooner and just back off and have fun.
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At what temperature do you start seeing a significant decrease in traction Spooler?
I thought about this some more, I will post a chart for everyone.
This is at 718hp at the wheel. 1st and 2nd never hook up fully.
These are 3rd gear and up. The higher the hp you go the worse it gets.

80 deg and up: Great traction with driving the car a short distance to warm up the tires.

70 to 80 deg: You have to drive a ways. 3rd gear get's sketchy at this temp. you may or may not hook it.

60 to 70 deg: Starts to get real sketchy in 3rd. Driving 30 min helps to warm the tires. Passing a car on the interstate you need to be ready for the back end to step out.

50 to 60 deg: Spinning 3rd starts to become a major problem.

Below 50 deg: Forget all about traction. You have to drive a ways for any and it is limited.

Spinning the tires warms them up some. The biggest help is getting the brakes good and hot. They use the wheel as a heat sink and that will warm the tires from the inside out. Hope this helps you. In a boosted car you have to be ready for anything traction wise. Nothing has scared me at all yet. I am sure I will get surprised one day. I will be ready.

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Nothing has scared me at all yet. I am sure I will get surprised one day. I will be ready.
The key is to be ready. Aside from a proper vehicle setup and significant driving experience, anticipation is the ultimate weapon in your arsenal. If you are ready, you won't be surprised. If you get surprised, you weren't ready. Speaking from a single vehicle perspective (you can't anticipate stupid sometimes).
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The key is to be ready. Aside from a proper vehicle setup and significant driving experience, anticipation is the ultimate weapon in your arsenal. If you are ready, you won't be surprised. If you get surprised, you weren't ready. Speaking from a single vehicle perspective (you can't anticipate stupid sometimes).
With this hp level sometimes being ready is not enough. You either get lucky or loose it. The best solution is to not get in that situation. I have put a couple in the ditch before.
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With this hp level sometimes being ready is not enough. You either get lucky or loose it. The best solution is to not get in that situation. I have put a couple in the ditch before.
Boy did I find that out. I had done dozens of third gear pulls and one time it breaks the tires loose at about 90 and immediately hooks left and goes into a spin before I could even react.
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Boy did I find that out. I had done dozens of third gear pulls and one time it breaks the tires loose at about 90 and immediately hooks left and goes into a spin before I could even react.
Did you have the factory VLSD diff? That is a common trait with that diff. It is horrible and can cause issues like this. If you don't
have a OS Giken or a Wavetrac in your newer car, get one quick.
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Did you have the factory VLSD diff? That is a common trait with that diff. It is horrible and can cause issues like this. If you don't
have a OS Giken or a Wavetrac in your newer car, get one quick.
It had a Quaife. The newer one has an OS Giken.
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