Insight Needed From Boosted Owners/Builders - Need Advice

FPenvy

comparing a 12-13 ZL1, new ZL1, and hellcat to the GT-R is the dumbest thing i've seen today.

you're statement shows that you only car about the amount of HP and not what car you drive.

also, you must have a custom interior, because the interior in my GTR blows the Z's out of the water for materials and quality.

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AstatenateZ

I care about cost, power and luxurious amenities, with a ZL1 having 580, 30k price tag used market, and just as many luxurious amenities as a GTR (i.e, alcantara dash, seats + leather, diff driving modes, heads up display, fully loaded entertainment center with nav, etc.) it seems like a much better financial decision. I'm a numbers man, if it don't make dollars, it don't make sense, right?

I'm 25, I bought my own home at 22, never had help from anyone, I have no debt minus my 2 assets (home/car) , I have a 824 credit score, multiple lines of credit that are at 0% utilization, served 4 years in AF, and learned a thing or 2 about financial stability. I was raised by a single mom, and grew up broke, not knowing if I'd eat the next day. I play things smart, plan, and work my a$$ off for all I got.

I can't justify spending 49-55k for an 09-12 GTR that makes 480 crank hp or even 545 crank hp out of the 14+ GTR for 65-80k... when there's options like hellcats for 45k with 700 crank hp, or ZL1 for 30k with 580 crank hp.

Finally, comparing a Z to GTR interior, yes I can do it.

I have 3 local friends with GTR's. 2009, 2013 and 2017 . The suede dash is much nicer than Z, but aside from that. The cheap fake looking carbon fiber around the shifter, meh. The seats in my touring/sport are just as nice as the GTR's suede/leather as mine is suede/leather too, the steering wheels are the same cheaper feel leather, but still nice, and I'd actually prefer all the leather stitched on the center console around the dash/stereo in Z, as opposed to the cheap looking plastic the GTR uses.

And to top things off that killed my spirits and I felt the pain from my friends is that most people think the Z is better/ faster than a GTR. We've been stopped at gas stations and of course real car people know GTR > Z ... but 90% of people have complimented my car over a GTR because they see 2 seater vs 4 seater, they see the curves on a Z, long hood and assume = better. I sh*t you not, some lady was complimenting my car, my friends GTR pulls up, she asked what GTR stood for, and she said that's a sporty family car you got (assuming she meant because it had a backseat) and told my friend it looked like a fatter version of her Altima coupe. And I felt the pain in my own chest.. Nissan's not really doing anything with the Z's or GTR's (i.e, have you seen the 50th edition??) Nissan is becoming very dated, quickly. And as sad as I'll be I think I'm going to have to move on to a different brand who's making moves forward. Not keeping cars the exact same for a decade.

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TobinH

just an observer here but...the cars you're listing are radically different to drive. the comparisons you're making are nonsensical. the power figure is one small part of a large puzzle.

you do plan on driving these cars?

FPenvy

oooooooooooook. i'll go in order and answer/respond each section above.

to your first point any 5th gen camaro is garbage and thats before we even get into how bad they look. so if thats how you wanna blow 30-40k be my guest i could use something fun to laugh at today. also the fact you compare a CHEVY interior (especially prior to C7 vette and gen 6 camaro) to the GTR is hysterical. makes me think you may be lying about knowing what these interiors even look like.......


no one asked for your life story nor is it needed in a car comparison conversation.....

so instead of a heavy car, with good power, that can out handle, and outrun the other options you listed but it's not the best option? sounds like its not the dollars making sense but more that you only car about power. hey you could just be a muscle guy so all power to you. i'm just stating that there's some errors in your comparisons and arguments.


god dammit we're back to interior stuff. only point i'll give you is i too wish the surrounding of the shifter area was better stock but $200-ish i can get a CF piece it's more just a pain to install. also, radio area has some CF and the rest isnt bad you're just nit-picking plus you said chevy interiors are better soooo.... owning both a Z and GTR, driving both often, and having the ability to literally side-by-side compare.......the GTR interior is all above the Z. i like my Z interior so dont think i'm being negative. however, the GTR is just better materials and feel all around. yes, there's better interiors in other cars o better materials but personally i'm a fan.


your final argument says a lot. it seems you're quite interested in recognition and not driving what drives you. personally i've loved the GTR and Z since i remember ever seeing them as a kid. granted i dont like certain models of each, but i do love them overall. i could care less that most people who know not a thing about cars and barely know how to put gas in their own thinks or claims to know about these cars. their opinions are mean less than nothing. i dont care what anyone thinks really. honestly a better way to live and makes things simple.

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AstatenateZ

I've seem to of rustled some jimmies, I do apologize. I'm just stating that (don't forget) the GTR is STILL my dream car, but they're going to have to come down in price before I consider it. 480/545 is just not enough for what you get, I had a 2013 5.0 in 2014 and had fun with it. Maybe I am a muscle car guy. I'm also in the south where v8 is everything. And ZL1's and Hellcats are like the icon locally. I also do not care what others think, simply stating the girl wasn't too far off, hinting that the GTR is dated and needs a redesign. As well as the Z. Nissan kind of upset with the whole auto show a week or so back. Didn't do much. No new Z, no new motor, nothing. Chevy at least evolves models, power, etc. Every few years to compete with Dodge and Ford.

To reiterate I am not bashing Nissan, I love my Z and GTR's I just can't justify it (right now) and am currently a little disappointed with Nissan.

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FPenvy

didnt rustle anything. i'm just responding and correcting some of your *random rambling*. nice little touch you decided to add there......

just repeating that you're not against nissan doesnt change the fact that your view on comparisons between a gen 5 camaro and GTR are just asinine.

if you're in the south that would give you even more reason to not go with those cars. that would be the worst just buying some big muscle car only to see 10 at every light like you're driving a fuckin civic at least you'd have plenty of people to make your purchase feel better over time. i mean misery does love company

and we all are disappointed in nissan. you say it like you're the only one.

however, 2020 nismo GTR finally got the pieces it should have had (or had available as options) from the start.

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Rusty

Think when the motor home gets sold. I'm buying a Ferrari 488.

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FPenvy

see now i should grab a C8 vette and we see if they claims of "ferrari performance" i've seen are true lol

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Spooler

I'll believe that when I see it. LOL

Senna-F1

With only 660 HP? Are you paying attention Rusty? The Hellcat has 707, and a boosted Z can make that at the wheel!

Baronsmokes

LOL
Trust me.Don't do it.To make the Ferrari run there is a slot in car where you feed $100 bills.A least $2,000 dollars at a time.

TBatt

Yeah, Porsche has it all wrong too, they are still producing the 911.

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bunk

And even Porsche doesnt include stickers with their updates....

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FPenvy

wellllll i mean with the GT3RS you can option to not get the stickers.....

or on a challenger/charger those idiots leave the yellow tape on the front lip for some reason

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bunk

If I were to buy a GT3, Id leave out the stickers, theyre only reserved for special anniversary models!!

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