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Had to go for a drive after the F1 race. I was feeling racey... Stuck on low boost but it was fun none the less. I had Nick ramp in

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Old 11-14-2021, 04:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Had to go for a drive after the F1 race. I was feeling racey... Stuck on low boost but it was fun none the less. I had Nick ramp in the boost and he did it perfectly. I, however, hate it. LOL, Got to try things and find out what you like and don't like. Will be going back to the way it was when the new engine is installed and tuned.
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Had to go for a drive after the F1 race. I was feeling racey... Stuck on low boost but it was fun none the less. I had Nick ramp in the boost and he did it perfectly. I, however, hate it. LOL, Got to try things and find out what you like and don't like. Will be going back to the way it was when the new engine is installed and tuned.
You like that sledge hammer feel for when it spools up.
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You like that sledge hammer feel for when it spools up.
Yes, so I can control it with my right foot. I have to be all up in it now at a higher rpm to get to max boost. Drives me crazy. I am use to using my right foot to spool up the turbos and past someone like it is nothing. I can't do that anymore. That is what annoys me the most. Maybe I will do my daily driving map all out at low boost and on map 2, It will be ramped in but, much quicker than it is today, at the high boost levels.
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By the way. The bank one O2 was nasty. I saw a coolant trail from when the first motor let go and I was pushing coolant out the tail pipe. That did not help it by any means. Guess I should have changed them out then when the 2nd motor was installed.
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Looking at these.

XR 6564S X2C - Xona Rotor
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I may just say F it and go for 1200whp..... I just need the right turbo's.
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I may just say F it and go for 1200whp..... I just need the right turbo's.
If you keep upping your power goals, then this THIRD built motor may not survive.

I know you’re gonna say hat this new motor will be built enough to have the head room (or should I say head lift) for it. But I’m pretty sure you said the same about at least one of the last two.


PS - just kidding about the head lift, I know you can be a bit sensitive sometimes.
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Stock ecu is still okay up to those levels of power?

Shame there's no real practical aftermarket options.
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Stock ecu is still okay up to those levels of power?

Shame there's no real practical aftermarket options.
Yes, the motor has always been the issue. Getting that fixed. Traction, LOL, that will be another story. I got some tricks up my sleeve for that. I need to get past keeping the motor alive to figure all that out.
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Shame there's no real practical aftermarket options.
There is, called a stand-alone.
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There is, called a stand-alone.
You know I want one. I just need to get past the damn motor holding together.
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There is, called a stand-alone.
I'm aware they exist but there's no "affordable" drop in replacements unlike our earlier Z brothers.

From my 10 minutes of research you get:

Syvecs which seems to be the best option but it's also 5k
Motec looks promising but needs a harness (supposedly you can buy a harness for this one though, unlike Haltech)
Haltech requires a custom harness to be made
Link can't control vvel

Which also doesn't include trying to find a competent tuner who knows a VQ and can tune on these other platforms as well. Most specialized vq tuners are pretty well dedicated to uprev/ecutek. I'm sure they're out there but yeah...

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I'm aware they exist but there's no "affordable" drop in replacements unlike our earlier Z brothers.

From my 10 minutes of research you get:

Syvecs which seems to be the best option but it's also 5k
Motec looks promising but needs a harness (supposedly you can buy a harness for this one though, unlike Haltech)
Haltech requires a custom harness to be made
Link can't control vvel

Which also doesn't include trying to find a competent tuner who knows a VQ and can tune on these other platforms as well. Most specialized vq tuners are pretty well dedicated to uprev/ecutek. I'm sure they're out there but yeah...
You’re 100% wrong. Wayne Potts didn’t get all that involved with syvecs, T1 killed that program. Haltech does control Vvel, motec is plug n play. Expensive. So is rebuilding motors, turbo kits and supporting mods. This is the problem with the VQ community. Why this platform is stuck in a rut for the last 13 years.

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You’re 100% wrong. Wayne Potts didn’t get all that involved with syvecs, T1 killed that program. Haltech does control Vvel, motec is plug n play. Expensive. So is rebuilding motors, turbo kits and supporting mods. This is the problem with the VQ community. Why this platform is stuck in a rut for the last 13 years.
Absolutely no one can justify the copious amounts of money required for an aftermarket ECU on a street car when stock does good enough, Elijah. This isn't the 90s anymore with crap factory ecu's and limited options. Find a company that's willing to develop a proper plug and play solution on a well known brand (cough haltech cough), otherwise good luck.
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If you think you need more power than 900whp, then the VQ is definitely not the best motor to stick with. Out of thousands of builds, they have proven to be unreliable.

VR can be built for 15-20k to handle 1500whp, it's a no brainer. The VQ37VHR ECU might be able to control it with VVEL deleted aswell.
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