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Spooler 04-01-2021 07:15 PM

Yeah, it is a biggun...

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/f...s-img_6143.jpg

GrayGhost 04-01-2021 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3990506)
Thinking about spraying some water/meth to keep the IAT's in check. I normally don't like it but I am pondering it. Trying to keep my mind open to new ideas.


https://fiinterchillers.com/products/

Check this out. Sure you would have to change up your IC setup entirely, but this would be a first on a Z and have massive potential for 1/2 mile.


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Spooler 04-01-2021 10:25 PM

I have seen those before. They use something similar on the Demon if memory serves me correct. I will stay air to air.

Spooler 04-02-2021 09:08 AM

If you guys don't remember at 900whp 4th gear pull my IAT's were 38 deg C. Vince put it in 5th and the IAT's shot up to 68 deg C and I gained no HP. That is on a dyno with minimal air flow over the CAC. I am close to having an issue. I need to address it or keep the boost at 25psi.

Spooler 04-02-2021 09:25 AM

Conversion for ya. 38C is already getting warm.

38 C = 100.4 F
68 C = 154.4 F

johnxxx 04-02-2021 12:51 PM

@Spooler... Do you have any gauges or an OBD reader that monitor your IAT's currently?

IAT's are read from/part of the MAF sensor right? ( I'm not sure )

Elmo370z 04-02-2021 12:59 PM

Better start looking getting rid of the oem oil solution, our design sucks, our capacity sucks.

Spooler 04-02-2021 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by johnxxx (Post 3990717)
@Spooler... Do you have any gauges or an OBD reader that monitor your IAT's currently?

IAT's are read from/part of the MAF sensor right? ( I'm not sure )

I do not. It can be read through ECUTEK. You won't need to worry about this with the power levels you are wanting. Never had an issue until we pushed it up to 900whp. I can log it with my ECUTECK Bluetooth dongle if needed.

Spooler 04-02-2021 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3990719)
Better start looking getting rid of the oem oil solution, our design sucks, our capacity sucks.

Not worried about it because of how I am going to use the car. Can't use that much power on a track because you can't keep it cool. Heat management will go out the window. 1/2 mile at a time I don't foresee an issue. If I do a track day it will be turned down to 600whp or less.

Spooler 04-02-2021 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by johnxxx (Post 3990717)
@Spooler... Do you have any gauges or an OBD reader that monitor your IAT's currently?

IAT's are read from/part of the MAF sensor right? ( I'm not sure )

I almost forgot. Brain installed a Motec display/Logger in Urban~Hermit's car. You can see it on their Youtube channel.

johnxxx 04-02-2021 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3990726)
I almost forgot. Brain installed a Motec display/Logger in Urban~Hermit's car. You can see it on their Youtube channel.

:bowrofl: LOL... I ordered that about 2 weeks back after speaking w/ Jon... the MoTec C125. :tup:

Spooler 04-02-2021 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by johnxxx (Post 3990729)
:bowrofl: LOL... I ordered that about 2 weeks back after speaking w/ Jon... the MoTec C125. :tup:

They can wire up all kinds of sensors to that unit.

Spooler 04-03-2021 07:37 PM

No word from Phunk yet. I am sure he will get to me as soon as he can.

Wuero370z 04-03-2021 07:52 PM

#groupbuy for beefy inter coolers? Lol


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Spooler 04-03-2021 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Wuero370z (Post 3990809)
#groupbuy for beefy inter coolers? Lol


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That is up to Phunk.

URBiN~HURMiT 04-04-2021 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3990726)
I almost forgot. Brain installed a Motec display/Logger in Urban~Hermit's car. You can see it on their Youtube channel.

Sorry to say that the Motec display / logger in my car is (although pretty) little more than a glorified shift light.
At last check, since Ray Shake left MA-M before finishing my car, there isn't anyone there that can program it.
I did take it to the closest Motec dealer (in New York State specializing in Hondas) once I got it back to N.J. - They turned down the job saying that I would also need the Motec computer and the Motec sensors to make it fully functional.
In addition, since the Motec system is highly specialized, the tune would also have to be done by a qualified Motec tuner.
I did find and check with a Motec tuner (JR Barrios- affiliated with Prime Motoring in Wallington N.J. who specializes in Subaru's) and the tune would start in the neighborhood of $2,000 or more - and would take a couple of days on the dyno to complete.
JR is a race tuner and has some impressive credentials with Subarus ... but you may be hard pressed to find a Motec tuner with similar credentials for the 370Z.
JR Tuning does set up appointments and travels the country to just do tunes.
This info that I've just shared is almost a year old now, and unfortunately, haven't had my car back on the road for any length of time since then.
I hope this is has been helpful.

Elmo370z 04-04-2021 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by URBiN~HURMiT (Post 3990834)
Sorry to say that the Motec display / logger in my car is (although pretty) little more than a glorified shift light.
At last check, since Ray Shake left MA-M before finishing my car, there isn't anyone there that can program it.
I did take it to the closest Motec dealer (in New York State specializing in Hondas) once I got it back to N.J. - They turned down the job saying that I would also need the Motec computer and the Motec sensors to make it fully functional.
In addition, since the Motec system is highly specialized, the tune would also have to be done by a qualified Motec tuner.
I did find and check with a Motec tuner (JR Barrios- affiliated with Prime Motoring in Wallington N.J. who specializes in Subaru's) and the tune would start in the neighborhood of $2,000 or more - and would take a couple of days on the dyno to complete.
JR is a race tuner and has some impressive credentials with Subarus ... but you may be hard pressed to find a Motec tuner with similar credentials for the 370Z.
JR Tuning does set up appointments and travels the country to just do tunes.
This info that I've just shared is almost a year old now, and unfortunately, haven't had my car back on the road for any length of time since then.
I hope this is has been helpful.

Vit viper can tune motec for the 370z since he created the firmware.

Spooler 04-04-2021 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URBiN~HURMiT (Post 3990834)
Sorry to say that the Motec display / logger in my car is (although pretty) little more than a glorified shift light.
At last check, since Ray Shake left MA-M before finishing my car, there isn't anyone there that can program it.
I did take it to the closest Motec dealer (in New York State specializing in Hondas) once I got it back to N.J. - They turned down the job saying that I would also need the Motec computer and the Motec sensors to make it fully functional.
In addition, since the Motec system is highly specialized, the tune would also have to be done by a qualified Motec tuner.
I did find and check with a Motec tuner (JR Barrios- affiliated with Prime Motoring in Wallington N.J. who specializes in Subaru's) and the tune would start in the neighborhood of $2,000 or more - and would take a couple of days on the dyno to complete.
JR is a race tuner and has some impressive credentials with Subarus ... but you may be hard pressed to find a Motec tuner with similar credentials for the 370Z.
JR Tuning does set up appointments and travels the country to just do tunes.
This info that I've just shared is almost a year old now, and unfortunately, haven't had my car back on the road for any length of time since then.
I hope this is has been helpful.

They would be correct. A custom Motec ECU package would be needed to get full use of the display. I am not sure if this could be integrated into Vit's package. To upgrade to the Motec ECU would be 10k and I am sure it would be extra to accommodate the C125 display. Custom work like this is not cheap. Finding someone that will do it is even harder. The C125 is cool as it is in your car.

BGTV8 04-04-2021 04:42 PM

Have you looked at the dash set up software. I know it is complex (maybe over complex as the Motec developers are real nerds), but if you are not prepared to have a crack your self, then you have a couple of choices .... Vitaly (VitViper) who now works for Motec North America or Sasha Anis at OnPoint Dyno in Toronto, plus whoever you can find locally.

Spooler 04-05-2021 08:14 PM

Measured the FI intercooler today since my bumper is off, 708.75 cubic in. New CJ Motorsports intercooler, 1333.8 cubic in. It is in the works.

Spooler 04-06-2021 04:07 PM

I have been poking around and looking at GTR intercoolers. Looks like 900whp is the mark to upgrade on them. Makes sense that I will need to.

redondoaveb 04-06-2021 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3991009)
Measured the FI intercooler today since my bumper is off, 708.75 cubic in. New CJ Motorsports intercooler, 1333.8 cubic in. It is in the works.

What's the core size of the cjm?

Spooler 04-06-2021 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3991097)
What's the core size of the cjm?

Not quite is big. We are limited on space.

redondoaveb 04-06-2021 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3991099)
Not quite is big. We are limited on space.

In other words, what's the thickness? 4 or 4-1/2"?

Spooler 04-06-2021 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3991107)
In other words, what's the thickness? 4 or 4-1/2"?

4.5 in. thick. We are limited on the height.

redondoaveb 04-06-2021 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3991118)
4.5 in. thick. We are limited on the height.

Yep, I remember the height issue when I was thinking of upgrading. That 4.5" core is beefy :tup: I was looking at Bell cores

Spooler 04-07-2021 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3991120)
Yep, I remember the height issue when I was thinking of upgrading. That 4.5" core is beefy :tup: I was looking at Bell cores

Looked at Bell and Garrett. Garrett's size selection is limited.

FL 4Motion 04-08-2021 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3991009)
Measured the FI intercooler today since my bumper is off, 708.75 cubic in. New CJ Motorsports intercooler, 1333.8 cubic in. It is in the works.

You know what they say about dudes with big intercoolers right?



(They have lower IATs). :p

Spooler 04-12-2021 03:32 PM

I am ready to get after it. The leaking intake manifold is slowing my roll.

Hotrodz 04-13-2021 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGTV8 (Post 3990869)
Have you looked at the dash set up software. I know it is complex (maybe over complex as the Motec developers are real nerds), but if you are not prepared to have a crack your self, then you have a couple of choices .... Vitaly (VitViper) who now works for Motec North America or Sasha Anis at OnPoint Dyno in Toronto, plus whoever you can find locally.

Another person to consider contacting is Brian Lock who owns Valkyrie Autosports. He used to frequent the forum years ago. He races both a 370z and GTR in NASA endurance races. He uses Motec in both cars. I know he did a complete harness rebuild for the 370z to work with Motec but has recently added Motec to his GTR using the factory harness and and the additional connecting boxes to totally integrated into the Motec steering wheel. It is pretty much plug and play for the GTR. There is an article about it last months Speed News published by NASA.

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cv129 04-13-2021 01:28 PM

Getting a better understanding of this Rabbit Hole concept lol.

Spooler 04-13-2021 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3991792)
Getting a better understanding of this Black Hole concept lol.

FIFU, I have surpassed the rabbit hole and upgraded to the Black Hole.

redondoaveb 04-13-2021 01:39 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Looks like the manifolds are almost done

Spooler 04-15-2021 10:48 AM

I am freaking stoked. New Nick (SOHO) tune coming soon. New features that are going to be implemented.

Boost by gear
Real Launch control
Real Rolling Antilag
Tuning the traction control. I like some slip so this will be a trial and error.
Turning the boost up to 30psi. Hope I don't find another bottle neck.
New SOHO Intake going on.
New SOHO Catch Can setup going on.

Hold my Dew....

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Spooler 04-15-2021 02:42 PM

In case you guys don't get it this is the process of trying to tame the beast. I found out what didn't work. Now it is time to try something different to make the car more drivable. This is all part of the fine tuning process.

Elmo370z 04-15-2021 03:36 PM

You upgrading the intercooler?

Spooler 04-15-2021 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3992069)
You upgrading the intercooler?

Run what I brung at the moment. That may be the limiting factor.

Elmo370z 04-15-2021 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3992072)
Run what I brung at the moment. That may be the limiting factor.

You already know what the limiting factor is. Your injectors and your IC. You got 1 out of 3 done. Upgrade the other two and get Nik to tune you up to 30 psi plus

Spooler 04-15-2021 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3992088)
You already know what the limiting factor is. Your injectors and your IC. You got 1 out of 3 done. Upgrade the other two and get Nik to tune you up to 30 psi plus

I have plenty of fuel. Why do you think I don't have enough. My injector duty cycle was a little less than 80% on IDA 1700cc injectors and my base fuel pressure is only set at 42psi. I have plenty of fuel to go. Seb is running 1300cc IDA injectors for the same power level I am at. We are going to find out exactly what the limiting factor is. Getting a custom intercooler made is being more of a pain in the arse than anything. Brian may have to make me one.

redondoaveb 04-15-2021 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3992112)
I have plenty of fuel. Why do you think I don't have enough. My injector duty cycle was a little less than 80% on IDA 1700cc injectors and my base fuel pressure is only set at 42psi. I have plenty of fuel to go. Seb is running 1300cc IDA injectors for the same power level I am at. We are going to find out exactly what the limiting factor is. Getting a custom intercooler made is being more of a pain in the arse than anything. Brian may have to make me one.

Have you talked to Seb about a custom IC?


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