Fast Intentions Stage 2 TT build by MA-Motorsports.

Spooler · 07-13-2021, 03:03 PM

I have 14 business days to wait unless I get lucky and they get done sooner for the intercooler to get coated.

Spooler · 07-13-2021, 03:25 PM

Good thing I am in the holding pattern. It appears it will rain at Pocono this Sunday. I would of hate to went all the way up there to not unload the car. I would not have been happy. LOL

johnxxx · 07-13-2021, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

You should Google Sunoco racing fuel for a distributor near you. Their e85r is always e85 and the price for delivery to your door may not be to bad. It may also be easy for you to go to the distribution site and puck it up your self.

I get it delivered to my garage door for less than $5 per gallon! My house is about 110 miles from the distributor.

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@Hotrodz I googled Sunoco's website and the price for a 54 gallon drum of Sunoco E85-R is $409.73. https://www.sunocoracefuels.com/fuel-finder
https://petroleumservicecompany.com/...4-gallon-drum/ That's $7.59 per gallon and doesn't include the [liftgate] delivery charge of $145 to NJ for me specifically. ( Delivery is $145 regardless of 1 drum or 4 drums... then it moves up to $190 for 5 drums delivered, etc. ) The distributor here is PSC, Petroleum Service Company, and they're out of Pa. They also mentioned that this year alone Sunoco has increase the price 5 times since. ( Just saying as you might be surprised on your next order

)

I have a E85 gas station about 20 miles south of me... been looking at a 110 gallon fuel transfer tank w/ pump ( $3k ) or going with drums. Heard that they are pretty consistent at around 83% ethanol. I would buy a tester for sure prior to fill up.

Still trying to figure out what to do with fuel myself.

johnxxx · 07-13-2021, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Good thing I am in the holding pattern. It appears it will rain at Pocono this Sunday. I would of hate to went all the way up there to not unload the car. I would not have been happy. LOL

Yeah you're right... calling for scattered thunderstorms for Sunday ... was planning a trip up there to check out the roll racing. Guess I'll keep a close eye on the weather and see if things change.

Spooler · 07-13-2021, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by johnxxx

Yeah you're right... calling for scattered thunderstorms for Sunday ... was planning a trip up there to check out the roll racing. Guess I'll keep a close eye on the weather and see if things change.

They may cancel it. Keep up with them on Instagram.

redondoaveb · 07-13-2021, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by johnxxx

@Hotrodz I googled Sunoco's website and the price for a 54 gallon drum of Sunoco E85-R is $409.73. https://www.sunocoracefuels.com/fuel-finder
https://petroleumservicecompany.com/...4-gallon-drum/ That's $7.59 per gallon and doesn't include the [liftgate] delivery charge of $145 to NJ for me specifically. ( Delivery is $145 regardless of 1 drum or 4 drums... then it moves up to $190 for 5 drums delivered, etc. ) The distributor here is PSC, Petroleum Service Company, and they're out of Pa. They also mentioned that this year alone Sunoco has increase the price 5 times since. ( Just saying as you might be surprised on your next order

)

I have a E85 gas station about 20 miles south of me... been looking at a 110 gallon fuel transfer tank w/ pump ( $3k ) or going with drums. Heard that they are pretty consistent at around 83% ethanol. I would buy a tester for sure prior to fill up.

Still trying to figure out what to do with fuel myself.

It's not about the ethanol content, it's more about contaminants in with the fuel.

johnxxx · 07-13-2021, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

It's not about the ethanol content, it's more about contaminants in with the fuel.

Getting the ID-F750 fuel filter installed but it's efficiency is rated at 87% @ 5 microns and 100% @ 35 microns... guess that still leaves room for contaminants to make it's way into the injectors.

Spooler · 07-13-2021, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by johnxxx

Getting the ID-F750 fuel filter installed but it's efficiency is rated at 87% @ 5 microns and 100% @ 35 microns... guess that still leaves room for contaminants to make it's way into the injectors.

That is Bosch filter recomendation.

redondoaveb · 07-13-2021, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by johnxxx

Getting the ID-F750 fuel filter installed but it's efficiency is rated at 87% @ 5 microns and 100% @ 35 microns... guess that still leaves room for contaminants to make it's way into the injectors.

That's on my list too and I'll probably run a tank of pump gas through the system more frequently.

Hotrodz · 07-13-2021, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by johnxxx

@Hotrodz I googled Sunoco's website and the price for a 54 gallon drum of Sunoco E85-R is $409.73. https://www.sunocoracefuels.com/fuel-finder

https://petroleumservicecompany.com/...4-gallon-drum/ That's $7.59 per gallon and doesn't include the [liftgate] delivery charge of $145 to NJ for me specifically. ( Delivery is $145 regardless of 1 drum or 4 drums... then it moves up to $190 for 5 drums delivered, etc. ) The distributor here is PSC, Petroleum Service Company, and they're out of Pa. They also mentioned that this year alone Sunoco has increase the price 5 times since. ( Just saying as you might be surprised on your next order

)

I have a E85 gas station about 20 miles south of me... been looking at a 110 gallon fuel transfer tank w/ pump ( $3k ) or going with drums. Heard that they are pretty consistent at around 83% ethanol. I would buy a tester for sure prior to fill up.

Still trying to figure out what to do with fuel myself.

I ordered a barrel a couple of months ago and I haven't used any because no race car lol. I have no idea what may have happened since fuel prices have gone wild. Prices were up a bit for fuel since I was buying Ignite 114 for $360 a drum. It and Torco equivalent is now $420 to $460 a drum and in CA and NV it was $500 to $550 picked up. You might get a better price on Ignite since they make it back that way. I guess I guage the cost, value and benefit based on race fuel which is $11 a gallon and does not carry the benefits e85 has for our motor.

Also pump e85 can have water, grit, oil and any other contaminates that fall into a tank at the service station.

I don't expect many to follow my lead as my build and endeavor is extreme. The money I spend on consumables would pretty much fund a normals person's vehicle expenses for a year. It is the cost of entertainment for me and I make no apologize for working hard to play at this level. What I spend on the game I play ain't chit compared to arrive and drive competitive racing which cost $25k a weekend!

My humble advice is don't cheap out on fuel, fluids and filters. Do your maintenance regularly even if it doesn't need it and your motor will pay you back in longevity and reliability. I got five years out of a stock block and I only know of a couple of others that lasted as long being boosted and running them at the track.

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Spooler · 07-13-2021, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

That's on my list too and I'll probably run a tank of pump gas through the system more frequently.

I hate running pump gas. That is freaking torture to a boost junkie. Ignite Red does have top end lube in it. So, I see no need.

redondoaveb · 07-13-2021, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

I hate running pump gas. That is freaking torture to a boost junkie. Ignite Red does have top end lube in it. So, I see no need.

I hate running it too. And on top of it, we only have 91. Hence why I wasn't running a tank for every few e85 tanks I went through like Seb told me I should do. I right now have an almost full tank of e85 that's going to need to be drained and thrown away. I think I'll have him pull the fuel pumps and check for sediment in the tank

redondoaveb · 07-13-2021, 06:48 PM

The FI Stage 1 turbos have a .86 AR turbine housing and the Stage (Seb) have a smaller .82 AR Turbine housing. I assume a larger turbine housing on the smaller Stage 1 turbos brings in more air but what is the benefit of going with a smaller housing on a larger turbo like on the Stage Seb turbos?

Elmo370z · 07-13-2021, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

I hate running pump gas. That is freaking torture to a boost junkie. Ignite Red does have top end lube in it. So, I see no need.

Doesn’t lube the cylinders like pump
Gas, jay went over that

Spooler · 07-13-2021, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

Doesn’t lube the cylinders like pump
Gas, jay went over that

Whatever, I am not running pump gas unless I have to get home. That's it.

07-13-2021, 03:03 PM	#4021 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,512 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684391	I have 14 business days to wait unless I get lucky and they get done sooner for the intercooler to get coated. Rusty, Hotrodz and redondoaveb like this.

07-13-2021, 03:25 PM	#4022 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,512 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684391	Good thing I am in the holding pattern. It appears it will rain at Pocono this Sunday. I would of hate to went all the way up there to not unload the car. I would not have been happy. LOL Rusty, Hotrodz, johnxxx and 1 others like this.

07-13-2021, 06:48 PM	#4033 (permalink)
redondoaveb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: So. Commiefornia Posts: 6,297 Drives: 2014 Nismo Gunmetal Rep Power: 2684374	The FI Stage 1 turbos have a .86 AR turbine housing and the Stage (Seb) have a smaller .82 AR Turbine housing. I assume a larger turbine housing on the smaller Stage 1 turbos brings in more air but what is the benefit of going with a smaller housing on a larger turbo like on the Stage Seb turbos? __________________ Fast Intentions "Stage Seb" twin turbo #098- Specialty Z/Tial-Xonarotor/CJM/Ecutek/HKS/KW/SPL/Hotchkis/Rohana/Toyo 700+whp

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