Fast Intentions Stage 2 TT build by MA-Motorsports.

Spooler · 08-15-2019, 12:48 AM

One of the guys that posted on my thread broke his also. He was running an OS Giken clutch. His car was build by MA Motorsports also. His next step is a Hollinger Sequential.

Elmo370z · 08-15-2019, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze

Took over a week lol

I learned a lot about your build and a few other's in this thread .As far as the video's I didn't watch any of those would have taken me forever

. As far as this platform goes I didn't learn much that I didn't know already. The fact that I had a build engine 7 years ago and drove it for 20k miles it didn't blow up helps my learning curve big time with this platform. My build this time started last year March I already decided then to build this one stronger that the last one it's the reason I went with the RJM closed deck block I don't want to deal with head gasket issues or cylinder's shifting and cracking over 800whp I have seen some nasty pictures. my old built short block is still in once piece. Hell I even snapped my transmission input shaft back then like butter that I still have pictures of lol.

That closed deck isn’t going to solve the head gasket issues, either o ring the block, or wait and see how cjm vr head bolt conversion goes. That car he helped built is a open deck with a 1069whp.

Spooler · 08-15-2019, 08:40 AM

I will say this once again. The ATS Triple Carbon clutch is outstanding. Pedal pressure is close to stock. Modulation is easy. It feels like a stock clutch. This clutch is worth every penny I paid for it. Too bad you don't see it used more often.

Spooler · 08-15-2019, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze

Took over a week lol

I learned a lot about your build and a few other's in this thread .As far as the video's I didn't watch any of those would have taken me forever

. As far as this platform goes I didn't learn much that I didn't know already. The fact that I had a build engine 7 years ago and drove it for 20k miles it didn't blow up helps my learning curve big time with this platform. My build this time started last year March I already decided then to build this one stronger that the last one it's the reason I went with the RJM closed deck block I don't want to deal with head gasket issues or cylinder's shifting and cracking over 800whp I have seen some nasty pictures. my old built short block is still in once piece. Hell I even snapped my transmission input shaft back then like butter that I still have pictures of lol.

I forgot to mention. The video's are where all the good stuff is. Especially about machine work. Those were the learning opportunities.

Spooler · 08-15-2019, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

That closed deck isn’t going to solve the head gasket issues, either o ring the block, or wait and see how cjm vr head bolt conversion goes. That car he helped built is a open deck with a 1069whp.

Spill the beans if you can. Obviously some peps are having issues and not talking.

Elmo370z · 08-15-2019, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Spill the beans if you can. Obviously some peps are having issues and not talking.

Very tight lip about it. Didn’t say much, but a highly respected shop talked about it with me. He had a closed deck block made little over 900 wheel and had issues with his heads lifting and pushing coolant through the HG. I also had a buddy making 780 experienced it his first week out using rjms block again with a highly respected shop.

Spooler · 08-15-2019, 10:07 AM

I haven't had any issues with mine and I have been in 102 deg temps running it hard. Guess I am glad I did what I did.

Hotrodz · 08-15-2019, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Spill the beans if you can. Obviously some peps are having issues and not talking.

It is obvious that a few builders have got it figured out and the closed deck has more to do with cylinder wall strength and heat management than the heads lifting.

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Elmo370z · 08-15-2019, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

He is high on go fast crack!

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I really interested to see how your set up works out, I’ve heard good and bad things about the rjm closed block. Is Seb going to modify the block at all. AMS didn’t like his block design.

Hotrodz · 08-15-2019, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

I really interested to see how your set up works out, I’ve heard good and bad things about the rjm closed block. Is Seb going to modify the block at all. AMS didn’t like his block design.

Interesting, it's all about what happens at the machine shop. Seb is a fan of the closed deck block and highly recommends it for high horsepower builds. It is about what your builder is comfortable with and has confidence in.

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Hotrodz · 08-15-2019, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

Very tight lip about it. Didn’t say much, but a highly respected shop talked about it with me. He had a closed deck block made little over 900 wheel and had issues with his heads lifting and pushing coolant through the HG. I also had a buddy making 780 experienced it his first week out using rjms block again with a highly respected shop.

We tend to hear more about failures than we do successes especially when the shop involved may had some notable failures. All shops have failures along the way and is necessary for learning. It is why many do shop builds so they can push the limit without risk to a customer car.

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Elmo370z · 08-15-2019, 08:37 PM

You right. Seb will take care of you

Mr.Squeeze · 08-15-2019, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

That closed deck isn’t going to solve the head gasket issues, either o ring the block, or wait and see how cjm vr head bolt conversion goes. That car he helped built is a open deck with a 1069whp.

Oh trust me I am waiting to see how the CJM head bolt conversion does. I'm also not 100% sold the RJM closed deck block will hold but for the price of the bare block you can't beat it. I have looked high and low it's just not many people on this platform pushing over 800 plus WHP. Even after all these year's it's still a learning curve on this platform. I don't mind at all sitting back in the 800-850WHP range and watching.

Mr.Squeeze · 08-15-2019, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

I forgot to mention. The video's are where all the good stuff is. Especially about machine work. Those were the learning opportunities.

Hey I have no doubt that those videos had good information but when trying to crash course 100 plus page thread I had to skip by something lol.

Spooler · 08-15-2019, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze

Hey I have no doubt that those videos had good information but when trying to crash course 100 plus page thread I had to skip by something lol.

Go back and catch them all would be my suggestion. Some things that are in there are very important.

08-15-2019, 12:48 AM	#1606 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,504 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684391	One of the guys that posted on my thread broke his also. He was running an OS Giken clutch. His car was build by MA Motorsports also. His next step is a Hollinger Sequential. Rusty and Hotrodz like this. Last edited by Spooler; 08-15-2019 at 08:44 AM.

08-15-2019, 08:40 AM	#1608 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,504 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684391	I will say this once again. The ATS Triple Carbon clutch is outstanding. Pedal pressure is close to stock. Modulation is easy. It feels like a stock clutch. This clutch is worth every penny I paid for it. Too bad you don't see it used more often. Rusty and Hotrodz like this.

08-15-2019, 10:07 AM	#1612 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,504 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684391	I haven't had any issues with mine and I have been in 102 deg temps running it hard. Guess I am glad I did what I did. Mr.Squeeze, Rusty, Hotrodz and 1 others like this.

08-15-2019, 08:37 PM	#1617 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,707 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295377	You right. Seb will take care of you Hotrodz likes this.

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