Preparation for the STILLEN supercharger

LiquidZ · 03-10-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Cool, are there any plans for a Stillen branded meth/water injection kit? Maybe you guys could talk to Aquamist, SMC, Coolingmist or Snow Performance for some support. I think it might be nice insurance and a little extra power for those who are planning on pushing the limits a tad.

Ah... the horsepower addiction is strong in this one...

LUVZTTZ · 03-10-2010, 02:55 PM

Alrighty...early March is winding down. On what day will you be dropping the Press Release? Seems like a fair question

MMC Racing · 03-10-2010, 02:18 PM

I don't think this has been asked - what PSI is that dyno at?

Togo · 03-10-2010, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing

I don't think this has been asked - what PSI is that dyno at?

stormcrow · 03-10-2010, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing

I don't think this has been asked - what PSI is that dyno at?

Yes, we all overlooked that question.

Kyle - As far as 93 octane goes, why not just mix your 91 octane with 100 octane unleaded? There is a calculable ratio for which you can get 93 from this mixture. I believe 3 gallons of 100 octane added to 10 gallons of 91 will net a 93.1 octane fuel.

There, I just saved you from having to import fuel from Oklahoma. *lol*

jmlenz · 03-10-2010, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing

I don't think this has been asked - what PSI is that dyno at?

Thems is fightin words!

Buddy Revell · 03-10-2010, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing

I don't think this has been asked - what PSI is that dyno at?

Apparently, someone HAS been using the ignore button.

370z4Steve · 03-10-2010, 05:24 PM

looks like a basic 3:1 ratio 91 to 100

ChrisSlicks · 03-10-2010, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 370z4Steve

looks like a basic 3:1 ratio 91 to 100

4:1. You want the err on the low side for tuning.

RCZ · 03-11-2010, 08:19 AM

^ You're gonna have to wait for the release like all of us. It should be coming soon.

CinZinnati · 03-11-2010, 08:43 AM

So, I have a couple simpler questions. Kyle seemed to suggest that if you haven't done anything to your car yet...don't. But for those of us who have, I'm curious as to why there would by any issue with for example HFC's. I understand the headers, but isn't a less restrictive exhaust good no matter what..or is just a tuning thing because they aren't testing the car with these particular types of setups? And for those of use who have the Gen 3 intakes, what's the best option since we gotta rip 'em out

G Fo12ce · 03-11-2010, 09:58 AM

If you go Supercharger, I think this is the best option for your intake:HERE

RCZ · 03-11-2010, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CinZinnati

So, I have a couple simpler questions. Kyle seemed to suggest that if you haven't done anything to your car yet...don't. But for those of us who have, I'm curious as to why there would by any issue with for example HFC's. I understand the headers, but isn't a less restrictive exhaust good no matter what..or is just a tuning thing because they aren't testing the car with these particular types of setups? And for those of use who have the Gen 3 intakes, what's the best option since we gotta rip 'em out

From what I remember Kyle was specifically talking about the headers. Everything else is fine...You will not be able to use your G3's, so you should maybe start selling them soon. Leave whatever exhaust you have on, that will be fine. The thing is that any time you free up the exhaust with headers, hfc's and whatever else, you will see small increments in peak boost. You should be fine either way...I wouldnt worry about it. Specially if you are not getting the CARB kit.

Silo · 03-11-2010, 10:53 AM

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. The thing is that any time you free up the exhaust with headers, hfc's and whatever else, you will see small increments in peak boost.

That's the case with turbos, but not with superchargers. Superchargers make their peak boost at rpm redline. They are not "load" dependant like turbos nor will the reduced backpressure on the "exhaust side" change the pressure ratios since there simply is no exhaust housing on a supercharger.

Kyle@STILLEN · 03-11-2010, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

I mean that it is maxed out in the sense that after purchase of said kit it is going to cost you like another 6grand to safely up the power. hell if you don't change your clutchand flywheel just buying one of those kits is already over the max the car will take. I like to work in terms of the package as a whole. I think 10 psi would be doable as a race tune but i shure as hell would pulley down to no more than 6-8 for regular use. 10 psi is def. meth injection territory to me. hell i'd think of putting meth on an n/a car just so i could run a nitro booster in it. i'd try to find the most oxygenated shyt i could find.

There will be room to gain more power with either kit I'm sure. GTM has already announced that they feel comfortable running more boost with their kit and just like our 350Z/G35 kit ours will be able to run more safely later on.

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Originally Posted by G35s-Q8

So, i have some questions here for Kyle&Josh@Stillen, are you going to send out the S/C kits with uni-chip or control box just like you did the the old 350z S/C?
Or are you planning to use Osiris UpRev reflash and tune?
Do you thing the UpRev is better than uni-chip for tuning?
And what made you go with that route for the tuning? (uni-chip vs uprev tuning).

This will be a part of the press release which will be coming soon. We used a piggy back system on our superchargers for the VQ35 and the VK56 (Titan, Armada) engines but it was not the Unichip offering.

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Originally Posted by CinZinnati

So, I have a couple simpler questions. Kyle seemed to suggest that if you haven't done anything to your car yet...don't. But for those of us who have, I'm curious as to why there would by any issue with for example HFC's. I understand the headers, but isn't a less restrictive exhaust good no matter what..or is just a tuning thing because they aren't testing the car with these particular types of setups? And for those of use who have the Gen 3 intakes, what's the best option since we gotta rip 'em out

Sorry if I gave the impression that you shouldn't do anything to your car. You absolutely should prepare the car with a cat-back exhaust, clutch and flywheel, suspension, brakes, and more. I just don't recommend installing headers (shorty's or long tube's) until we have a chance to test it. We saw on the VQ35 supercharger that you could lose up to a pound of boost by installing headers. They did improve efficiency though so you would make more horsepower. It was a weird trade off but basically in the end you did not make any more power on the dyno. However, everyone who drove with that setup acknowledged that there was a definite improvement in throttle response.

Basically...We just don't recommend installing headers until we have the opportunity to test them for you.

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Originally Posted by Silo

That's the case with turbos, but not with superchargers. Superchargers make their peak boost at rpm redline. They are not "load" dependant like turbos nor will the reduced backpressure on the "exhaust side" change the pressure ratios since there simply is no exhaust housing on a supercharger.

You are correct. Superchargers continue building boost all the way to RPM redline. However, we have seen where installing headers can drop up to a pound of boost because of the reduction in back pressure.

03-11-2010, 08:43 AM	#11 (permalink)
CinZinnati Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cincinnati Age: 47 Posts: 28 Drives: 09 Solid Red 370z Rep Power: 18	So, I have a couple simpler questions. Kyle seemed to suggest that if you haven't done anything to your car yet...don't. But for those of us who have, I'm curious as to why there would by any issue with for example HFC's. I understand the headers, but isn't a less restrictive exhaust good no matter what..or is just a tuning thing because they aren't testing the car with these particular types of setups? And for those of use who have the Gen 3 intakes, what's the best option since we gotta rip 'em out __________________ '09 Solid Red 370z with Stillen CBE, HFC's, and Gen 3 air intakes

03-11-2010, 09:58 AM	#12 (permalink)
G Fo12ce Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 996 Drives: Sold! Rep Power: 53	If you go Supercharger, I think this is the best option for your intake:HERE __________________ Nismo Suspension: New Owners Check Here!

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03-10-2010, 02:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
LUVZTTZ Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: St Louis, MO Posts: 57 Drives: Black 91 TT Rep Power: 18	Alrighty...early March is winding down. On what day will you be dropping the Press Release? Seems like a fair question

03-10-2010, 02:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
MMC Racing Track Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 661 Drives: 2015 GT-R Rep Power: 18	I don't think this has been asked - what PSI is that dyno at?

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370z4Steve Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: west Posts: 231 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 674	looks like a basic 3:1 ratio 91 to 100

03-11-2010, 08:19 AM	#10 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1120	^ You're gonna have to wait for the release like all of us. It should be coming soon.