Topgunz - air to air upgrade

TBatt · 07-16-2016, 01:50 PM

I just loaded my first tune from Seb. Holy crap, what a difference!!!!!!! Runs and drives smooth as stock now. As soon as I wipe this silly grin off my face I'll start getting some logs done for him. Wow! I just can't get over the difference! Throttle response is OMG. I will have to relearn how to drive my Z.

COSMO · 07-17-2016, 09:05 PM

That's really cool man, Roll Tide!!!!! Btw I ran into jake joker at pirates cove last weekend.

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Originally Posted by TBatt

I just loaded my first tune from Seb. Holy crap, what a difference!!!!!!! Runs and drives smooth as stock now. As soon as I wipe this silly grin off my face I'll start getting some logs done for him. Wow! I just can't get over the difference! Throttle response is OMG. I will have to relearn how to drive my Z.

TopgunZ · 07-19-2016, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pauly Z

The pulley didn't increase the whine, just traction. You can hear more whine due to the filter that is directly on the blower.

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I agree! It totally wakes up the supercharger sound!

I also would like to point out that even though you have a 6 rib belt vs. 7 you are still getting like 85% more grip.

6 ribs vs 7 = 15% less.... 2" of wrap vs now 4" = 100% more. 85/100 = 85% more grip!!

Do you plan on doing any tests to see how much psi you gain from it? Did you have a solid baseline before the install? It wouldnt be too hard to throw the old belt on and just bypass this if you didnt.

Pauly Z · 07-19-2016, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

I agree! It totally wakes up the supercharger sound!

I also would like to point out that even though you have a 6 rib belt vs. 7 you are still getting like 85% more grip.

6 ribs vs 7 = 15% less.... 2" of wrap vs now 4" = 100% more. 85/100 = 85% more grip!!

Do you plan on doing any tests to see how much psi you gain from it? Did you have a solid baseline before the install? It wouldnt be too hard to throw the old belt on and just bypass this if you didnt.

Did a before and after run and gained 1 psi at around 6500 rpms. May have gained more but ran out of room on the road. I need to get on that dyno.

I need to get ahold of Seb and arrange a time to do it. Been real busy with getting ready to move and work.

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TopgunZ · 07-19-2016, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pauly Z

Did a before and after run and gained 1 psi at around 6500 rpms. May have gained more but ran out of room on the road. I need to get on that dyno.

I need to get ahold of Seb and arrange a time to do it. Been real busy with getting ready to move and work.

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NICE!!! A full psi is 100% worth it.. and more. I figured it would be a definite gain as after the 20 dyno pulls, and a half can of some pretty amazing belt grip I figured that was about what you would gain from getting more grip on that belt. If i had time to do this i would have, glad i could help encourage the project. Great job!

And if anyone is thinking "what about cog belts on the supercharger side". DO NOT TRY THIS. I went through 2 belts and 2 weeks of headaches. It will never be reliable enough to run. The setup back there just wont allow the clearances you need. The extra pulley is where we really need to put the grip down anyway. However, i will say the sound that came out of the cog setup was very intoxicating to say the least. Reminded me of my old positive displacement eaton blower on my 350Z. Wish i could have gotten it to work.

Pauly Z · 07-19-2016, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

NICE!!! A full psi is 100% worth it.. and more. I figured it would be a definite gain as after the 20 dyno pulls, and a half can of some pretty amazing belt grip I figured that was about what you would gain from getting more grip on that belt. If i had time to do this i would have, glad i could help encourage the project. Great job!

And if anyone is thinking "what about cog belts on the supercharger side". DO NOT TRY THIS. I went through 2 belts and 2 weeks of headaches. It will never be reliable enough to run. The setup back there just wont allow the clearances you need. The extra pulley is where we really need to put the grip down anyway. However, i will say the sound that came out of the cog setup was very intoxicating to say the least. Reminded me of my old positive displacement eaton blower on my 350Z. Wish i could have gotten it to work.

Yeah after installing the blower I always thought it was crazy how there was low grip on the serpentine side. This is the way it should have been.

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TBatt · 08-08-2016, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

I agree! It totally wakes up the supercharger sound!

I also would like to point out that even though you have a 6 rib belt vs. 7 you are still getting like 85% more grip.

6 ribs vs 7 = 15% less.... 2" of wrap vs now 4" = 100% more. 85/100 = 85% more grip!!

Do you plan on doing any tests to see how much psi you gain from it? Did you have a solid baseline before the install? It wouldnt be too hard to throw the old belt on and just bypass this if you didnt.

Just finished up digging through the Gates belt sizes and found a 8 rib belt that will work with the additional idler pulley that Pauly Z is using. Now to figure out how to remove one rib so that it matches the 7 rib serpentine. The 8 rib is K081088. I wonder what the minimum order to have a custom made belt is. I'm pretty sure that they make these as drums and simply slice them to the correct width. The printed label kind of gives that away.

Does anyone know what size idler pulley he used? What about using the SC idler pulley? Its off now because I went to a larger idler because of the smaller SC pulley.

TBatt · 07-19-2016, 08:45 AM

I'm scheduled for a dyno run August 6th at Z1. The car is running great and Seb should be giving me the go ahead for some WOT runs soon. New wheels and tires are on. Pictures will be posted on my build thread. BOOST, FINALLY!

milkcow500 · 07-19-2016, 07:51 PM

The larger intake is part of the A2A kit. It replaces the y-pipe dual intake design that the stillen kit comes with.

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BlueDemon · 04-17-2023, 05:56 PM

Hey guys, I am about to install the anti slip pulley, do I need a new and longer serpentine belt?

TopgunZ · 04-21-2023, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueDemon

Hey guys, I am about to install the anti slip pulley, do I need a new and longer serpentine belt?

No

SlyZGuy · 07-19-2016, 09:01 PM

Ok cool so it's part of the kit

bewhitey · 07-20-2016, 07:19 PM

Yeah that y pipe intake is lame! Has to have a shield so as to not get too turbulent of air on the MAF's. Great place for wasps to make their nests and blocks half of my oil cooler!

when I cleaned out that intake it was wasp genocide, those little dudes got sucked to death and were mashed all up around the filters.

WillVHR · 07-22-2016, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

As many of you know, there is demand for a good solution to the water to air design of the Stillen kit. I have made my own and it is working perfect and has put down almost 500whp on 10psi. I will be shooting for 600whp this spring.

I do not think I need to go into the benefits of going Air to Air since anyone reading this will know just how terrible the water system works. Anything over 9psi is playing with fire. The Air to Air is coming in just above ambient on my setup and I will be utilizing an even bigger intercooler on the presented kit.

I am working on making this kit available for purchase. I am going to send all files to a very reputable party to have them build the components. I am going to test fit the first kit on my car then have it dyno tested. I will post results as soon as possible.

Kit will include:
-New Air filter - Eliminating stillen Y intake and small dual filter design
-Piping from Supercharger to intercooler
-Bypass Valve Mount adapter
-OEM bypass plugs for intake coupler
-Treadstone Intercooler rated for 720HP
-Intercooler mounting brackets
-All cold side piping and intakes - 2.75" Custom Y pipe with MAF housings - Blow through design will allow computer to see temps unlike current design
-Manifold Block off plate
-All silicone couplers and T-bolts
-Vacuum hose
-Installation instructions

Additional supporting mods offered: (at extra charge)
-Rigid pulley tensioner bracket
-Main bracket anti-flex adapter

Possible Stage 2 kit:
Upgrade to V1 or V2 Ti/Si head unit - Capable of more power than the V3. Will come with all necessary parts to upgrade to this unit.

This kit will be under $1500 shipped.

The hardest part about installing this kit will be taking the aftercooler out of the manifold as this requires the removal and re-installation of the manifold. Other than that it is about as difficult as installing a Stillen Gen3 cold air intake.

EDIT - Can pull out aftercooler and hacksaw it off if you would prefer. No need to take manifold off and put back on.

First - Do you have pics of this?
Second - Will it also work for my 2010 G37S 6MT Stillen SC?

TopgunZ · 07-22-2016, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WillVHR

First - Do you have pics of this?
Second - Will it also work for my 2010 G37S 6MT Stillen SC?

Two G37's have installed this kit. One is a guy over in Japan who i sold a kit to a couple months ago. He made 501whp. That is the last of our emailing as he is hard to get ahold of.

The other guy is Milkcow500 here on the forum. He made +50wtq over his water setup but needs to find a DynoJet to get standard numbers. His install was a bit confusing as they put the brackets on incorrect and then modified one to fit instead of flipping it around and to the front. Im sure he will chime in and elaborate on this if you need some more info.

Here is a pic of it installed on a G. Also. I have updated the original post with pictures of the kit.

07-16-2016, 01:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
TBatt Track Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 832 Drives: 2019 GT-R Rep Power: 20170	I just loaded my first tune from Seb. Holy crap, what a difference!!!!!!! Runs and drives smooth as stock now. As soon as I wipe this silly grin off my face I'll start getting some logs done for him. Wow! I just can't get over the difference! Throttle response is OMG. I will have to relearn how to drive my Z. __________________ RJM pedal, Hotchkis Sway Bars, FI TDX, FOG Light, Z1 Slotted Drilled rotors, Stillen SC, Quaife ATB, Z1 Oil cooler, AEM Gauge Set, Galeforce gauge mount, Avant Garde M590 Hypersilver w/RE-11, TopgunZ A2A kit., ECUtek tuned by Seb: ROLL TIDE! Last edited by TBatt; 07-16-2016 at 02:38 PM.

07-19-2016, 08:45 AM	#8 (permalink)
TBatt Track Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 832 Drives: 2019 GT-R Rep Power: 20170	I'm scheduled for a dyno run August 6th at Z1. The car is running great and Seb should be giving me the go ahead for some WOT runs soon. New wheels and tires are on. Pictures will be posted on my build thread. BOOST, FINALLY! __________________ RJM pedal, Hotchkis Sway Bars, FI TDX, FOG Light, Z1 Slotted Drilled rotors, Stillen SC, Quaife ATB, Z1 Oil cooler, AEM Gauge Set, Galeforce gauge mount, Avant Garde M590 Hypersilver w/RE-11, TopgunZ A2A kit., ECUtek tuned by Seb: ROLL TIDE!

04-17-2023, 05:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
BlueDemon Base Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: On, Canada Posts: 31 Drives: 12 370z SportTouring Rep Power: 14	Belt size Hey guys, I am about to install the anti slip pulley, do I need a new and longer serpentine belt?

07-19-2016, 09:01 PM	#12 (permalink)
SlyZGuy Base Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Maryland Posts: 220 Drives: 2014 370z S/C M6 Rep Power: 11	Ok cool so it's part of the kit __________________ Stillen S/C \| '15 Nismo Conversion \| Aodhan \| Eibach \| Tokico \| SPC \| Z1 \| Evo-R \| Aerojacket \| HKS \| Berk \| CFE \| APR \| Amuse \| Z1 \| A2A IC \| AAM \| Buddy Club \|

07-20-2016, 07:19 PM	#13 (permalink)
bewhitey Base Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Denver Posts: 78 Drives: 370z 40th #704 M6 SC Rep Power: 11	Yeah that y pipe intake is lame! Has to have a shield so as to not get too turbulent of air on the MAF's. Great place for wasps to make their nests and blocks half of my oil cooler! when I cleaned out that intake it was wasp genocide, those little dudes got sucked to death and were mashed all up around the filters. __________________ Vortech SC\|Stillen Sway Bars+Facia+Skirts+CB Exhaust\|Z1 Clutch+CSC Elimination Kit\|ACT LW Flywheel\|Tein Coils+EDFC\|SPL Camber Arms\|RJM Clutch Pedal\|TWM Short Shifter\|Morimoto Switchback LED's\|Z1 34 Row Oil Cooler\|AIR 2 AIR\|E85 Flex Fuel\|460 whp TheBoostCreep

07-19-2016, 07:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
milkcow500 Base Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: NYC Posts: 176 Drives: 11 G37xs Rep Power: 45	The larger intake is part of the A2A kit. It replaces the y-pipe dual intake design that the stillen kit comes with. Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk

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