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mikey1600 05-23-2017 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TBatt (Post 3655591)
I've got two more extra idler pulley kits waiting for a new home. PM me if you are interested. Cheap extra boost.

PM incoming!

bewhitey 05-28-2017 11:19 AM

dyno numbers
 
Finally got my car back! Made 460 whp on a dyno dynamics. Take a look at the video

https://youtu.be/cH-i-UYwmEY

bewhitey 05-28-2017 11:21 AM

Coolant overflow tank
 
Anybody find some cool aftermarket coolant overflow tank that will fit with TopgunZ's kit? I don't have the stock one and we accidentally put the stillen overflow tank right on the pulleys and chewed it all up. Radicool!

nic370 05-28-2017 04:55 PM

I've just been scanning the net and came across this image I'm sure it's the chap on here
Dose anyone know what he's done in terms of changing the intake https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9e66bb9ffe.jpg

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TopgunZ 05-28-2017 09:26 PM

That's Evans. I made that for him to try. I called it the hydra. See the small filter coming off the intake boot? There were two of those plus the big filter sitting in front of the radiator. Actually there were 4 but we couldn't get it to fit. He said it didn't make any more power than the direct fit I sent with the kit. I know there are a ton of guys wanting a better flowing intake, and I don't blame them because yes, freeing it up would make more power.

The only way I have found to get more air into the sc is to move the sc, hence complete redesign.

nic370 05-29-2017 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3657850)
That's Evans. I made that for him to try. I called it the hydra. See the small filter coming off the intake boot? There were two of those plus the big filter sitting in front of the radiator. Actually there were 4 but we couldn't get it to fit. He said it didn't make any more power than the direct fit I sent with the kit. I know there are a ton of guys wanting a better flowing intake, and I don't blame them because yes, freeing it up would make more power.

The only way I have found to get more air into the sc is to move the sc, hence complete redesign.

Aghh ok cool
Thanks for info :)

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BOLIO 671 05-29-2017 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bewhitey (Post 3657729)
Finally got my car back! Made 460 whp on a dyno dynamics. Take a look at the video

https://youtu.be/cH-i-UYwmEY

Nice numbers...bet there's still room for more....especially on "E"...read ur description...who was ur primary tuner Harry or Seb?

Just an FYI.....Seb isn't from Visconti tuning.....he runs/owns Specialty Z in Chatsworth CA....

bewhitey 05-29-2017 11:55 AM

Woops, I didn't know that about Seb. Harvey at the boost creep is the primary tuner. I am running stock pulley / impeller, 8psi. I want to keep it on the conservative side for now. Harvey still has more tune work to do but went on vacation and wanted me to drive it for a couple weeks. It has been doing some weird power loss stuff, all codes it is throwing are MAF related. Pulled them out and cleaned them, cleared the codes. Now I just need to drive it some more to see if it keeps happening. I think I am going to buy the stock coolant expansion tank. From some pics on here it looks like it is danger close to the pulleys but still fits

turtle64b 05-29-2017 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bewhitey (Post 3657935)
Woops, I didn't know that about Seb. Harvey at the boost creep is the primary tuner. I am running stock pulley / impeller, 8psi. I want to keep it on the conservative side for now. Harvey still has more tune work to do but went on vacation and wanted me to drive it for a couple weeks. It has been doing some weird power loss stuff, all codes it is throwing are MAF related. Pulled them out and cleaned them, cleared the codes. Now I just need to drive it some more to see if it keeps happening. I think I am going to buy the stock coolant expansion tank. From some pics on here it looks like it is danger close to the pulleys but still fits

It definitely fits! Just scroll to the end photos here https://goo.gl/photos/6wexurgWYzweWzYw7 and you can see how close it is. There's about 1/4 inch of clearance and I haven't had any issues yet!

ChaseZ 05-29-2017 05:48 PM

Too restrictive? :)
http://www.the370z.com/members/chase...3-img-4197.jpg

ChaseZ 05-30-2017 12:24 PM

Is there supposed to be a gasket in the Tial v-band? Sounds like there is and I didn't get one. Confirm?
http://www.the370z.com/members/chase...1-img-4207.jpg

TopgunZ 05-30-2017 12:33 PM

That is not necessary.

milkcow500 05-30-2017 12:39 PM

I had to buy mine seperate from the unit, but it didn't do anything really. The vband is good enough on its own.

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TBatt 05-31-2017 03:38 PM

The last two extra idler pulley kits were sent out internationally! One to Taiwan and one to Australia. I have one more kit ready to go. I will stock up for some extras toward the end of June. I did go ahead and make several of the custom spacers being that they take the most time.

nic370 05-31-2017 03:43 PM

So good news on mine
The supercharger is back from vortech ..I have to say mighty impressed they turned it around quick time

I fitted it all back up tonight and all runs good apart from a whistling noise which I'm hoping is an air leak maybey
The car pulls strong and smooth tho so happy days

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bewhitey 06-03-2017 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaseZ (Post 3658276)
Is there supposed to be a gasket in the Tial v-band? Sounds like there is and I didn't get one. Confirm?
http://www.the370z.com/members/chase...1-img-4207.jpg

The shop that installed my fuel system installed a new v band with a gasket on the Tial. I had put plumbers tape as a gasket first time around :)... for some reason they didn't like that and re-did it.

bewhitey 06-03-2017 09:00 PM

I tried searching this thread but no luck. What sort of fuel pressure are you guys running on the return style CJM kits? My fuel pressure gauge reads around 40psi at idle. Does it stay at a constant pressure? I did see a vacuum line leading to the fuel pressure regulator... I don't know how this stuff woorks

turtle64b 06-04-2017 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bewhitey (Post 3660107)
I tried searching this thread but no luck. What sort of fuel pressure are you guys running on the return style CJM kits? My fuel pressure gauge reads around 40psi at idle. Does it stay at a constant pressure? I did see a vacuum line leading to the fuel pressure regulator... I don't know how this stuff woorks

Disconnect the manifold line from the regulator, set pressure to 52 lbs, reconnect line. I have the same system.

bewhitey 06-04-2017 09:22 AM

Awesome thanks! The pressure regulator is literally installed under a bunch of coolant hoses that go to the throttle bodies.... wtf

TopgunZ 06-07-2017 04:30 PM

If anyone needs injectors I can get Injector Dynamics ID1000's for $625 shipped w/ full warranty.

ChaseZ 06-08-2017 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bewhitey (Post 3660179)
Awesome thanks! The pressure regulator is literally installed under a bunch of coolant hoses that go to the throttle bodies.... wtf

Get rid of the coolant hoses going to the the throttle bodies while you're at it. No use heat soaking them.

ChaseZ 06-08-2017 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3661703)
If anyone needs injectors I can get Injector Dynamics ID1000's for $625 shipped w/ full warranty.

I thought they discontinued the 1000's for the new 1050's?

TopgunZ 06-09-2017 02:28 PM

I can get ID1050x's for $675 shipped to your door.

milkcow500 06-09-2017 02:33 PM

I've been looking for a way that we can remove our filter much easier, since there's pretty much no room to spare.

A buddy of mine had a 3.5" intake piping fabricated and the shop they arw willing to create more of these. You'll have to remove quite a bit from the rad core support.

Refer to the pics for reference. PM me if interested. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...0c85fd11bb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...702ca4fb95.jpg

nic370 06-09-2017 02:36 PM

I saw this the other day looks good
That's a 350 though ?

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milkcow500 06-09-2017 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nic370 (Post 3662588)
I saw this the other day looks good
That's a 350 though ?

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It's a g37 coupe with the r35 manifold. Unfortunately ours is a bit offset from the existing opening, so we can run a 4" straight pipe through like the 350z can.

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TopgunZ 06-09-2017 03:09 PM

Good luck

Jayhovah 06-09-2017 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3662584)
I can get ID1050x's for $675 shipped to your door.

b2autodesigns (forum vendor) also has great prices on DW1000's and they are also E85 compatible.

edit: Hope I am not stepping on your toes here Topz..

ChaseZ 06-09-2017 05:26 PM

How do they plan on piping the cold air side to the drivers manifold??

I've thought of similar for the air filter, but would order a BeCool rad that is perhaps 3" narrower so the entire rad support on the drivers side can be relocated out of the way and have a straight shot into the blower.

It also wouldn't be terribly difficult to make a new SC bracket to slide it a little further outward. Move the fuse box and would have a good few inches. Just need a longer SC belt on the backside, rest would stay the same. Could address that Mickey Mouse Stillen tensioner at the same time.

bewhitey 06-11-2017 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaseZ (Post 3662239)
Get rid of the coolant hoses going to the the throttle bodies while you're at it. No use heat soaking them.

I had read somewhere that these were not needed. Does it effect cold starts on a cold morning? I live in Colorado. One day it will be 80 degrees and the next it will be 20 degrees and starting to snow (yes I drive this car in snow.... less than 1" though, anything more and my front end will turn into a snow plow)

ChaseZ 06-11-2017 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bewhitey (Post 3663084)
I had read somewhere that these were not needed. Does it effect cold starts on a cold morning? I live in Colorado. One day it will be 80 degrees and the next it will be 20 degrees and starting to snow (yes I drive this car in snow.... less than 1" though, anything more and my front end will turn into a snow plow)

I live in Calgary; pretty much same weather, including the erratic weather patterns. Not an issue in the slightest.

MoulaZ 06-11-2017 04:52 PM

Removing coolant lines to TBs is one of the first things any Z32 owner ever did. And when I went to move the TBs onto the Stillen Manifold, I removed them again on the Z34, zero issues. Our lowest temps in Sydney would be around -1c or -2c.

BOLIO 671 06-13-2017 07:57 AM

Any of you guys using an Oil Catch Can on this set up (Air 2 Air)? I'm wanting to install a catch and looking for some advice of what brand and type to go with considering our piping and the Stillen manifold Set up.

nic370 06-13-2017 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BOLIO 671 (Post 3663811)
Any of you guys using an Oil Catch Can on this set up (Air 2 Air)? I'm wanting to install a catch and looking for some advice of what brand and type to go with considering our piping and the Stillen manifold Set up.

Im running 2

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ChaseZ 06-13-2017 09:03 AM

Radium :tup:
http://www.the370z.com/members/chase...361-radium.jpg

Optimiser 06-13-2017 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MoulaZ (Post 3663174)
Removing coolant lines to TBs is one of the first things any Z32 owner ever did. And when I went to move the TBs onto the Stillen Manifold, I removed them again on the Z34, zero issues. Our lowest temps in Sydney would be around -1c or -2c.

Do you really think it makes any difference in performance at all?
I have read elsewhere that it doesn't and is therefore totally unnecessary.

Optimiser 06-13-2017 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BOLIO 671 (Post 3663811)
Any of you guys using an Oil Catch Can on this set up (Air 2 Air)? I'm wanting to install a catch and looking for some advice of what brand and type to go with considering our piping and the Stillen manifold Set up.

I use one catch can.

MoulaZ 06-14-2017 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Optimiser (Post 3664103)
Do you really think it makes any difference in performance at all?
I have read elsewhere that it doesn't and is therefore totally unnecessary.

Hah, course it does f*ck all for performance. Never claimed it was for that reason. It's purely to declutter and remove irrelevant systems, and in this case also remove one more potential point of failure, such as a coolant leak. Could be argued that's a stretch but I don't care.

TopgunZ 06-14-2017 08:07 AM

CHASE Z

Free up some PM space. I typed up some info and tried to send but is says your stuffed.

ChaseZ 06-14-2017 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3664296)
CHASE Z

Free up some PM space. I typed up some info and tried to send but is says your stuffed.

Had to re-up my membership, it must have expired overnight. All good now

I ended up putting smaller pcv filters on the front 3/8 barbs and it seems to have made a difference. Of course it's been raining ever since so haven't been able to stretch its legs to really find out, but it's getting into boost much lower and with less pedal. Actually it's running a bit smoother too.

I was getting 5-6 psi at 7800 RPMs before and now it seems I'm getting 5 by 6000. At least as much as I've been able to ascertain without really getting on it. Low end is definitely improved. Once it clears up I'll have a more definitive take on it.


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