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turtle64b 04-17-2017 06:43 PM

Where did y'all get your Tial BOV and associated parts? Tial doesn't sell direct and I wanna make sure I get all the right parts. Thanks!

-Brett

TopgunZ 04-17-2017 06:47 PM

From me. It's an option with the a2a.

Just tell me what color you want.

turtle64b 04-17-2017 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3642151)
From me. It's an option with the a2a.

Just tell me what color you want.

Blue please :tup:

TBatt 04-20-2017 10:05 AM

I made three more spacers last night so as soon as the shipment of belts and idlers comes in I'll be ready to ship more kits first of next week.

future370zzz 04-20-2017 11:27 AM

Does anyone know if there will be a problem fitting the A2A intercooler if I already have a 19 row trans cooler and 25 row oil cooler. From the photos I've seen, the intercooler goes in front of them and the crash bar is removed to provide room.

I'm ready to go A2A.

milkcow500 04-20-2017 06:45 PM

Thanks TBatt https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5e09328932.jpg

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ChaseZ 04-20-2017 08:26 PM

Nice. Mine should be here any day now :tup:

Optimiser 04-20-2017 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by future370zzz (Post 3643238)
Does anyone know if there will be a problem fitting the A2A intercooler if I already have a 19 row trans cooler and 25 row oil cooler. From the photos I've seen, the intercooler goes in front of them and the crash bar is removed to provide room.

I'm ready to go A2A.

Do not delete the crash bar as it's there for an important reason. You need a crash bar! To make enough room and give my A to A intercooler some clearance my shop removed a few mm of the inside of the stock crash bar and TIG seam welded it so it would still be rigid and do it's job, if ever required.

turtle64b 04-21-2017 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkcow500 (Post 3643412)
Thanks TBatt https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5e09328932.jpg

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I received mine too! Thanks! Fuel parts and A2A and I'll be ready for install!

TBatt 04-21-2017 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Optimiser (Post 3643455)
Do not delete the crash bar as it's there for an important reason. You need a crash bar! To make enough room and give my A to A intercooler some clearance my shop removed a few mm of the inside of the stock crash bar and TIG seam welded it so it would still be rigid and do it's job, if ever required.

Another option is to use the Fast Intentions crash bar. It fits perfect right out of the box. Not cheap but VERY well made. It's FI, what more would you expect!

acorona370 04-21-2017 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBatt (Post 3643565)
Another option is to use the Fast Intentions crash bar. It fits perfect right out of the box. Not cheap but VERY well made. It's FI, what more would you expect!

Is there any weight reduction with the FI crash bar over the OEM?

Chuck33079 04-21-2017 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Optimiser (Post 3643455)
Do not delete the crash bar as it's there for an important reason. You need a crash bar!

Well, even if you take off the OEM crash bar you still have one. An intercooler is solid as hell. It's a boxed aluminum piece with internal supports. It's just an extremely expensive crash bar that would cripple the car if it got holed. :rofl2:

BOLIO 671 04-21-2017 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBatt (Post 3643565)
Another option is to use the Fast Intentions crash bar. It fits perfect right out of the box. Not cheap but VERY well made. It's FI, what more would you expect!

This

brucelidat 04-23-2017 12:00 PM

So I am coming to this thread late, but it seems like this A2A solution fixes the problem with the Stillen SC kit being really iffy beyond 8psi? With this, the Stillen SC kit can run much higher than the kind lame 400/300 it used to do and make that power in a reliable and safe way? Are there any other supporting mods needed other than this? How much time would this add to a new Stillen SC kit install job?

Also, is there any way at all to buy parts of the kit form Stillen to save money instead of their entire kit?

turtle64b 04-23-2017 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3644291)
So I am coming to this thread late, but it seems like this A2A solution fixes the problem with the Stillen SC kit being really iffy beyond 8psi? With this, the Stillen SC kit can run mush higher than the kind lame 400/300 it used to do and make that power in a reliable and safe way? Are there any other supporting mods needed other than this? How much time would this add to a new Stillen SAC kit install job?

Also, is there any way at all to buy parts of the kit form Stillen to save money instead of their entire kit?

1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Needed, no. Desired, probably
4) I can tell you in a couple weeks as I am doing an initial install with Topgunz kit as well as some other supporting mods
5) Not that I'm aware of. Just keep your eyes open for a used kit. I picked mine up for $4k

If you are interested in this, begin by setting the time aside to read this thread in its entirety. Trust me, it's worth it.

-Brett

brucelidat 04-23-2017 01:21 PM

I will need to ask Seb about this.

TopgunZ 04-23-2017 05:09 PM

Seb, the guy who has tuned about 20 of these kits, will know.

ChaseZ 04-23-2017 05:38 PM

Seb will tell you to go TT I'd put money on it :D

370Z JT 04-23-2017 05:47 PM

Is it bad to have 4.08 gears with forced induction? just curious.

brucelidat 04-23-2017 07:10 PM

Seb will definitely say to go TT, but that will cost way more with the increased labor costs, extra upgrades, and transmission upgrade. I will just ask him if this A2A kit will make the Stillen SC kit a reliable car that can make good whp. With the more linear power delivery of SC, I won't need to upgrade my transmission. The 4.08 gears may have to go, but I would see how it is with them first. They would definitely need to go with TT though. If I decide to go this route, I will probably look for a used Stillen kit which is more likely to be found than a used FI TT kit. I think SCs generally have less maintenance and upkeep than TTs. I also kind of liek the idea of the power having a linear NA type of delivery.

BOLIO 671 04-23-2017 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3644403)
Seb, the guy who has tuned about 20 of these kits, will know.

Definitely will. He didn't hesitate after he made his first tune and assessment of this kit with StillenZ84....

On a side note, Seb finally finished off my tune...so took the Z to the track over the weekend and let me just say that I am all smiles here man. This kit is definitely track proven...and if it can withstand the local heat and humidity here on Guam it will definitely run cooler anywhere else in the world....

With the Stillen Kit I would encounter heat soak at the drag strip and could never accomplish consistent back to back times....Now with TopGunz's A2A Kit all my times are quicker and consistent....I just need to work on my 60 foot. Trap speed is there and higher within the 111-114mph range which should get me into the low 12's high 11's here once I nail the 60ft.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhvqR1iy5oY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68i1ODePdeU

TopgunZ 04-23-2017 08:39 PM

I am getting closer to bringing my own supercharger kit to the market if you want to wait. 500whp/400wtq for under $6500 tuner and $7500 turn key is the plan. I'm 99% sure I'll hit it.

I'll offer the first 5 kits at $500 off.

These kits will include a V3 blower with Si trim.

That setup is capable of over 600whp if done right, which will also happen.

Jayhovah 04-23-2017 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3644518)
I am getting closer to bringing my own supercharger kit to the market if you want to wait. 500whp/400wtq for under $6500 tuner and $7500 turn key is the plan. I'm 99% sure I'll hit it.

I'll offer the first 5 kits at $500 off.

These kits will include a V3 blower with Si trim.

That setup is capable of over 600whp if done right, which will also happen.

......But do you have any hood photoshops?
:stirthepot:

TopgunZ 04-23-2017 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3644525)
......But do you have any hood photoshops?
:stirthepot:

Lol!!

No, because stock hood will work just fine. $$$$ savings $$$$

ScottM 04-23-2017 09:28 PM

That's great news Topgunz!!

Optimiser 04-23-2017 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Z JT (Post 3644417)
Is it bad to have 4.08 gears with forced induction? just curious.

I have 4.08 gears with 450WHP and good sticky tyres (now). Yes it's lively to control in 1st and 2nd gear and even 3rd sometimes, but it sure accelerates well. Also fantastic pulling out from bends with my LSD really helping. At the track, out of corners I was powering away from V8 M3 BMW's and that was when I had 380WHP and that had a lot to do with the 4.08, but LSD required. :driving:

Optimiser 04-23-2017 10:54 PM

Quick question:
Is it possible to clean/change the air filter on Topgunz kit without removing the supercharger? :confused:

BOLIO 671 04-24-2017 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Optimiser (Post 3644562)
Quick question:
Is it possible to clean/change the air filter on Topgunz kit without removing the supercharger? :confused:

Nope....You can't pull that thing on or put it back on without removing it. Too Tight of a fit.

BOLIO 671 04-24-2017 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOLIO 671 (Post 3644513)
Definitely will. He didn't hesitate after he made his first tune and assessment of this kit with StillenZ84....

On a side note, Seb finally finished off my tune...so took the Z to the track over the weekend and let me just say that I am all smiles here man. This kit is definitely track proven...and if it can withstand the local heat and humidity here on Guam it will definitely run cooler anywhere else in the world....

With the Stillen Kit I would encounter heat soak at the drag strip and could never accomplish consistent back to back times....Now with TopGunz's A2A Kit all my times are quicker and consistent....I just need to work on my 60 foot. Trap speed is there and higher within the 111-114mph range which should get me into the low 12's high 11's here once I nail the 60ft.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhvqR1iy5oY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68i1ODePdeU


Are my vids showing up? Funny cuz on my desktop computer nothing is showing but while viewing with my mobile it gives the link.

ScottM 04-24-2017 05:37 AM

Yes the vids show up well. Both your car sounded and ran very well

TBatt 04-24-2017 09:59 AM

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Back from a much needed mini-vacation to Orange Beach, AL

Lots of rest, great seafood and washed it all down with some nice cold drinks!

The weather was near perfect.

For those of you that have ordered my additional idler kit, they are going out tomorrow. I have one or two left depending on a pending order. I'll have more available soon.

TBatt 04-24-2017 10:09 AM

While I was lazing on the beach, I was catching up on my Car & Driver magazines and came across a very interesting article on a CVT supercharger. The belt drive pulley attaches to a CVT that then attaches to the SC impeller. The article claims that the CVT allows the engine to run without boost at any rpm and then the CVT can go to max RPM on the SC in .4 sec to give instant boost! Sounds like a neat system if they can get it to work and hold up. The secret to making the CVT work was a very special oil that changes viscosity based on pressure.

Found it!

http://www.enginelabs.com/news/insid...ng-technology/

TopgunZ 04-24-2017 10:43 AM

But the size of that bohemith! Where would you fit it? The platform would need to be built around this monster during design of the engine/bay.

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/...psquuzlutv.jpg

TBatt 04-24-2017 10:45 AM

Details, details.........

You are right in that it would be very difficult to put in a Z but OH the possibilities!

nic370 04-24-2017 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Optimiser (Post 3643455)
Do not delete the crash bar as it's there for an important reason. You need a crash bar! To make enough room and give my A to A intercooler some clearance my shop removed a few mm of the inside of the stock crash bar and TIG seam welded it so it would still be rigid and do it's job, if ever required.

Do you have any pictures of your setup this is somthing that is of concern to me right now
And are you running the treadstone supplied

brucelidat 04-24-2017 04:07 PM

So what are people making on 91 with this A2A kit on a Stillen kit with 8 or 9 psi pulley?

TBatt 04-24-2017 08:07 PM

All extra pulley kits have been sold. Thanks!

I have more parts on the way.

coletrickle74 04-24-2017 08:37 PM

Late to the thread but couldn't find an answer. Sorry if it has been asked, but...how much work if any, would be required to fit this to a 350z HR? Looking at a used Stillen kit

TopgunZ 04-24-2017 09:10 PM

Nobody knows. It's never been done but I've been pmd that question about 6 or 7 times. I just tell them there's only one way to find out.

If your mechanically savvy then you can get anything to work. It might fit up, it might take minor tweaking, it might take a good amount.

future370zzz 04-25-2017 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3644860)
So what are people making on 91 with this A2A kit on a Stillen kit with 8 or 9 psi pulley?

I made 436whp and 344wtq at 9.8psi using 91 Craptane on the Stillen water cooling system.

I would expect somewhere in the 475whp and 395wtq range (+-10) using 91 on the A2A system. PLUS, a whole LOT safer setup. 436whp is plenty for me right now, the safety is the biggest plus of the A2A setup.


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