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nic370 11-09-2016 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by milkcow500 (Post 3576226)
He said briefly mentioned that it could be my fuel pressure dropping or an issue with my primary O2/WB sensors.

I ran another log to confirm the issue, so I'm just waiting for him to get back to me now.

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What's your fuel set up if you don't mind me asking

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milkcow500 11-09-2016 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nic370 (Post 3576228)
What's your fuel set up if you don't mind me asking

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jwick 11-09-2016 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by milkcow500 (Post 3576235)
CJM S1

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That doesn't make sense. You shouldn't have any fuel pressure drop with a return setup.

milkcow500 11-09-2016 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3576248)
That doesn't make sense. You shouldn't have any fuel pressure drop with a return setup.

Beats me. Seb is traveling for a tuning session, so I probably won't hear from him until the end of the week unfortunately.

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milkcow500 11-10-2016 12:51 PM

So, the game plan is to replace the spark plugs. Sebastian told me there there isn't a complete lean out and the majority of it is happening on one side of the engine.

TopgunZ 11-10-2016 01:26 PM

If you need to replace the coil packs next, let me know,I have 6 of them with 100 miles on them sitting in a box in the garage. Ill sell them to you for $1 plus shipping.

Chuck33079 11-10-2016 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3576584)
If you need to replace the coil packs next, let me know,I have 6 of them with 100 miles on them sitting in a box in the garage. Ill sell them to you for $1 plus shipping.

If he doesn't need them I'll take them off your hands. Hell, I'll include enough for a six-pack for your trouble.

TopgunZ 11-10-2016 01:49 PM

Lol. Well since he was a customer I was going to give him a deal. If he doesnt take them im sure we can work something out. The beer I drink isn't Old Milwaukee though. :tup:

nic370 11-10-2016 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3576584)
If you need to replace the coil packs next, let me know,I have 6 of them with 100 miles on them sitting in a box in the garage. Ill sell them to you for $1 plus shipping.

Now that generosity right there :)

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Chuck33079 11-10-2016 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3576597)
The beer I drink isn't Old Milwaukee though. :tup:

Well, I should hope not.

woo 11-10-2016 03:23 PM

He is a great guy
 
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Originally Posted by nic370 (Post 3576598)
Now that generosity right there :)

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If he wasnt a great guy he would already be charging me for all the questions i have ask!!! i can see him scratching his head when his phone rings with my number now!!!!!!

milkcow500 11-10-2016 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by woo (Post 3576617)
If he wasnt a great guy he would already be charging me for all the questions i have ask!!! i can see him scratching his head when his phone rings with my number now!!!!!!

It's ok, I blow up his phone as well.

BTW, the vibration issue is going away I guess? I feel it a bit at startup and sometimes when idling. After the car has warmed up, it's pretty much nonexistent. Reverse is a toss up though; Sometimes there's a lot, sometimes there's none. Why this is happening, we may never know...

nic370 11-18-2016 05:20 PM

just took delivery of my a2a kit here in the uk :)
i will have it installed around end of december and tuned just before or just after christmas hopfully
no rush as they are throwing salt down for fun here with icy roads so plenty of time to tinker with the car in the warm
i will be sure to let you know how it all goes

JWillis72 11-18-2016 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by milkcow500 (Post 3576627)
It's ok, I blow up his phone as well.



BTW, the vibration issue is going away I guess? I feel it a bit at startup and sometimes when idling. After the car has warmed up, it's pretty much nonexistent. Reverse is a toss up though; Sometimes there's a lot, sometimes there's none. Why this is happening, we may never know...



In reverse mine calms down the more I let off the brake, does yours do that?


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nic370 11-19-2016 12:53 PM

im just sat trying to order my tial where are guys ordering from ? direct from tial ? im in the uk

also what other bits do i need to fit the tial 2.5\50mm t peice anything else and couplers anything else

TopgunZ 11-19-2016 06:37 PM

Nic, I sent all that info to your bud over here.

nic370 11-19-2016 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3579932)
Nic, I sent all that info to your bud over here.

Yeah thanks man just spoken to him. After I posted
Thanks again

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TopgunZ 11-22-2016 03:46 PM

Well since I gave Frandy almost a month to post his results from the Air to Air kit, I am just going to leave this here...

538whp DJ on stillen fuel system plus meth. Yes, if you go meth you can leave the stillen fuel components in and get past 525whp!

ihiryu 11-22-2016 04:10 PM

I have two questions:

How do you remove the aftercooler? The plate in the front, and the whole deal slides out?

And secondly, (this might be a silly question) has anyone attempted to run both the A2W and A2A?

nic370 11-22-2016 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ihiryu (Post 3580920)
I have two questions:

How do you remove the aftercooler? The plate in the front, and the whole deal slides out?

And secondly, (this might be a silly question) has anyone attempted to run both the A2W and A2A?

Yeah undo the bolts and give it a tug comes right out

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TopgunZ 11-22-2016 04:18 PM

The aftercooler in the manifold will be hotter than the air coming into it from the A2A intercooler, so you would be warming up the already cooler air. Not to mention its a restriction. Dont do it.

ihiryu 11-22-2016 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3580924)
The aftercooler in the manifold will be hotter than the air coming into it from the A2A intercooler, so you would be warming up the already cooler air. Not to mention its a restriction. Dont do it.

Oh I'm not, I was just curious.

bewhitey 11-24-2016 10:03 AM

When I removed the cooler in the intake manifold I had to loosen the bolts on the intake manifold and tilt it up to allow the cooler to completely slide out. Otherwise it would only slide out a couple of inches before hitting the engine. THIS WAS NOT FUN! There are three bolts under the intake manifold (on the throttle body side, one at the front is easy to see, the one in the middle and other at the back you can barely see if you are at eye level with the engine. Maybe one of those inspection cameras on a wire would be helpful). Stillen provides a wrench with their kit to get to these bolts, but after a few years and the car changing owners blah blah blah I am sure most people do not have this wrench. I had to cut up and re-weld one. Good luck mane, with some perseverance and a lot of cursing stillen's design team you will get it.

TopgunZ 11-24-2016 10:16 AM

Yes, definitely do it before you put your manifold on.

nic370 11-24-2016 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bewhitey (Post 3581597)
When I removed the cooler in the intake manifold I had to loosen the bolts on the intake manifold and tilt it up to allow the cooler to completely slide out. Otherwise it would only slide out a couple of inches before hitting the engine. THIS WAS NOT FUN! There are three bolts under the intake manifold (on the throttle body side, one at the front is easy to see, the one in the middle and other at the back you can barely see if you are at eye level with the engine. Maybe one of those inspection cameras on a wire would be helpful). Stillen provides a wrench with their kit to get to these bolts, but after a few years and the car changing owners blah blah blah I am sure most people do not have this wrench. I had to cut up and re-weld one. Good luck mane, with some perseverance and a lot of cursing stillen's design team you will get it.

Yeah I discovered this when taking the manifold off

What are people using to get to these bolts

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BOLIO 671 11-24-2016 07:17 PM

I'm glad that I kept my wrench that came with the Stillen Kit. Even with that wrench it's still a PITA. I can only begin to imagine the frustration having to remove the manifold and not having the wrench that comes with the kit.

JWillis72 11-24-2016 07:18 PM

We got a cheap wrench and torched and hammered the bend in it.


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woo 11-25-2016 08:09 PM

Im at a stand still..... directions state to use 45 off supercharger. When you insert L pipe and bend to match up to blowoff valve it collapses the 45..... A 90 coupler would fit perfect....what am i missing????

Venom SS 11-26-2016 11:44 PM

TopGunz are you on camaro5?


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woo 11-27-2016 03:56 PM

Topgunz...... what can i say
 
Well after some minor modifications all is installed and works perfectly. Evidently nissan has changed a few things on the 2016. Lets call it the cuss and throw your tools around the shop changes. Topgunz looked at all the pictures going to make a few minor changes for the new car. Let him know what year your care is.
All in all. I love it. Between the air to air and the supercharger. What a blast to drive! Sorry for all the questions Aaron but you have a solid product!!

Kamillio 11-28-2016 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by woo (Post 3582762)
Well after some minor modifications all is installed and works perfectly. Evidently nissan has changed a few things on the 2016. Lets call it the cuss and throw your tools around the shop changes. Topgunz looked at all the pictures going to make a few minor changes for the new car. Let him know what year your care is.

All in all. I love it. Between the air to air and the supercharger. What a blast to drive! Sorry for all the questions Aaron but you have a solid product!!



What were the changes in 2016? I'm curious


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TopgunZ 11-28-2016 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Venom SS (Post 3582578)
TopGunz are you on camaro5?


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Probably at one time. Not a ton of activity though.

ChaseZ 11-28-2016 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by woo (Post 3582762)
Well after some minor modifications all is installed and works perfectly. Evidently nissan has changed a few things on the 2016. Lets call it the cuss and throw your tools around the shop changes. Topgunz looked at all the pictures going to make a few minor changes for the new car. Let him know what year your care is.
All in all. I love it. Between the air to air and the supercharger. What a blast to drive! Sorry for all the questions Aaron but you have a solid product!!

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Originally Posted by Kamillio (Post 3583008)
What were the changes in 2016? I'm curious


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Curious about this too, especially as I have a SC en route and about to PM about an A/A setup for my 2016.

TopgunZ 11-28-2016 03:23 PM

Woo can walk you through it better than me. We are still looking at small details. But it also may have something to do with the version of Stillen kit he has as he is getting slight belt chew on his oem radiator overflow tank which i have never heard of from any one else with my kit.

Kamillio 11-28-2016 08:04 PM

Topgunz - air to air upgrade
 
I had to cut/grind down the OEM radiator overflow tank lip so that the belt doesn't get chewed up. Even now the clearance is maybe 1/2 an inch.

Also, even with the extra pulley mod to aid belt slippage, once the underhood temps get hot (30mins of hard curvy road driving) I experience belt slippage above 6500rpm. It's audible as a belt slip.

TopgunZ 11-28-2016 08:14 PM

Id try some crc dressing.

Do you have the 9psi pulley?

JWillis72 11-28-2016 08:20 PM

I don't have tops kit but that seems strange to me, I have beat the hell out of mine at the track in the Florida heat without that problem. Could the belt tensioner be going bad?


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TopgunZ 11-28-2016 08:24 PM

How much psi under 6500 did you gain? (worth it?)

Anyone else with this mod notice this?

Kamillio 11-28-2016 08:45 PM

I have everything as came from Stillen. So 8psi pulley and no mods except the A/A kit.


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JWillis72 11-28-2016 08:54 PM

Have you tried it without the extra pulley? The a2a isn't causing this and if everything is stock Stillen it doesn't sound right.


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