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Pauly Z 04-19-2016 03:10 PM

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EVOHUNTER 04-19-2016 03:35 PM

Hey topz, do you know the boost ill be seeing?

Is my 255 and 650cc going to hold up?

TopgunZ 04-19-2016 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by swiss370Z (Post 3463340)
Sorry for the "jump-in"!

The Air-suction point is in a warm place!

Do not you want to optimize the fresh intake air something?
A pipe laying in the front region of the front,
or in the left pane in the wheel!
Where the fresh air is still cool!

Just so my idea?!




Those are good ideas. But if you have an efficient air to air front mount then it cools off the intake anyway. With it being a little warmer coming in, it gets cooled all the same.

That doesn't work with water to air.

This is a much better design for getting air to your supercharger. I have several dyno sheets to prove that.

TopgunZ 04-19-2016 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER (Post 3463362)
Hey topz, do you know the boost ill be seeing?

Is my 255 and 650cc going to hold up?

Not sure. Your kit is different then mine. You might lose a little more boost from the bigger IC and the intake being different. Its hard to say.

Did they think you had enough when you tuned last fall? I am guessing you wouldn't have made it to redline with that and that pulley setup.

TopgunZ 04-19-2016 03:47 PM

That doesn't look good PaulyZ. So your kit is on the dyno? Any pics of how they routed all the piping?

EVOHUNTER 04-19-2016 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3463368)
Not sure. Your kit is different then mine. You might lose a little more boost from the bigger IC and the intake being different. Its hard to say.

Did they think you had enough when you tuned last fall? I am guessing you wouldn't have made it to redline with that and that pulley setup.

We were not sure because I only could rev to 5000 rpm without it cutting fuel and going insanely lean because of the loss of MAF voltage.

TopgunZ 04-19-2016 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER (Post 3463374)
We were not sure because I only could rev to 5000 rpm without it cutting fuel and going insanely lean because of the loss of MAF voltage.

Honestly, with aggressive as you had been going I am almost certain you wouldn't have had enough fuel. Pump gas though right?

Pauly Z 04-19-2016 04:11 PM

Not on dyno yet cause we are waiting on a patch from Ecutek so we can get a base map to start.

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EliteXpress 04-19-2016 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by StillenZ84 (Post 3463306)
Topgunz was spot on with figuring out what filter would work best with the air to air setup. Fits almost perfectly and sits in there very snug. From the front you can see that this setup will be getting plenty of cold air. For the filter to fit better and for piece of mind, I used a small 1/8"x 1/2" rubber spacer that I placed on the lip of the supercharger inlet before I slipped on the air filter. This just allowed for a much tighter grip.

Very nice choice/find on that filter!

The fit and finish is spot-on!:tup:

BOLIO 671 04-20-2016 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by StillenZ84 (Post 3463306)
Topgunz was spot on with figuring out what filter would work best with the air to air setup. Fits almost perfectly and sits in there very snug. From the front you can see that this setup will be getting plenty of cold air. For the filter to fit better and for piece of mind, I used a small 1/8"x 1/2" rubber spacer that I placed on the lip of the supercharger inlet before I slipped on the air filter. This just allowed for a much tighter grip.

Lookin good man.....Can't wait to u unleash the beast and get some data logs going....

TopgunZ 04-20-2016 08:20 AM

Yeah its been raining here. Supposed to be sunny and in the 70's this Saturday. I also have a dyno scheduled at 3pm on the 28th. We will see if I can break 550whp. I think I will.

JWillis72 04-20-2016 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER (Post 3463362)
Hey topz, do you know the boost ill be seeing?

Is my 255 and 650cc going to hold up?

Your not running E85 correct?

If not the 255 will be fine but you could run out of injector. When my car was 418 whp with 650cc injectors on the stock Stillen set up I was seeing around 85-90%. Before my blower ate itself I had a 2.75 on the supercharger and my 255 had no problem keeping up.

TBatt 04-20-2016 10:10 AM

Does anyone have any pictures showing the intercooler and an oil cooler. I'm trying to visualize how they will share the space up front. I'm going with the Z1 25 row and now the TopgunZ A2A setup. This will be a fresh install of the SC kit and the A2A and oil cooler.

TopgunZ 04-20-2016 10:56 AM

StillenZ84 just did this. He was telling me about it. I'm sure he will chime in here. I think he is working on buttoning up his install right now.

StillenZ84 04-20-2016 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TBatt (Post 3463915)
Does anyone have any pictures showing the intercooler and an oil cooler. I'm trying to visualize how they will share the space up front. I'm going with the Z1 25 row and now the TopgunZ A2A setup. This will be a fresh install of the SC kit and the A2A and oil cooler.

Ill try to grab some pics but it is pretty tight. There is plenty of room between the radiator and new intercooler to mount it. What kind of gets in the way is that little power steering cooler. I was able to mount them where there is around 3/4"-1" in between them. I also have a trans cooler on the other side that had to be moved back about an inch.


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