STS Systems

jnaut · 10-17-2010, 08:43 PM

whos car is this? pics of the intercooler/ t.b ? does look cool, there are a few things I would do different but good job over all! where did you run the piping through the crossmember?

209Z · 10-18-2010, 01:28 AM

want more pics ! want more everything *credit card in hand* lol =]

JoeyD · 10-18-2010, 11:43 AM

PV=NRT I'm just sayin...

Hotter turbo (housing) means nothing.

WarmAndSCSI · 10-18-2010, 12:13 PM

Exactly.

It's all about exhaust gas velocity, and a higher exhaust charge temperature is indicative of that. Like I said in my previous post, what is important is how well your pre-turbine-housing piping and turbine housing keep energy (read: heat and velocity) from escaping the exhaust system. With piping that is coated inside and out, and a turbine housing that may or may not be coated with an insulating blanket, there is no harm with a lot of cool air being blown around the turbo. End of story.

Zsteve · 10-18-2010, 01:00 PM

so we want HAI?

WarmAndSCSI · 10-18-2010, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsteve

so we want HAI?

Nope, you want cold air on the compressor side of the turbo, fast and hot air (aka exhaust) on the turbine side. Generally speaking, that is.

STS definitely knows what they're doing. It's already an improvement over the 350Z rear mount design because it looks like they replaced the mid-pipe with a bigger-diameter piece that appears to be coated (presumably inside and out). The 350Z setup used the stock mid-pipe by default.

I certainly hope they're not using HPC coatings any more since they went out of business here in Utah. The best option IMO is from Swain Tech. HPC sucks.

Zsteve · 10-18-2010, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

Nope, you want cold air on the compressor side of the turbo, fast and hot air (aka exhaust) on the turbine side. Generally speaking, that is.

STS definitely knows what they're doing. It's already an improvement over the 350Z rear mount design because it looks like they replaced the mid-pipe with a bigger-diameter piece that appears to be coated (presumably inside and out). The 350Z setup used the stock mid-pipe by default.

I certainly hope they're not using HPC coatings any more since they went out of business here in Utah. The best option IMO is from Swain Tech. HPC sucks.

I know I was just trying to

some

Where is the air intake filter exactly and how do they keep it from getting dirty too fast?

1slow370 · 10-19-2010, 03:51 AM

hopefully the oiling sysem isn't anything like the 350z one, installed one for one of my guys and the pump was on the other end of 12ft of 3/8 id hose from a tiny nipple on the turbo. it sucked so bad he had oil bypassing the seals at idle filing the intake piping and shooting out the exhaust so bad that when his BOV opened it would spray oil in his engine bay. We had the turbo inspected and it was like new, then i machined the oil fitting on the turbo out to 1/2 npt with a 5/8 id lineto the pump, relocated the pump to the back to reduce restriction and give the pump an easier life pumping oil, then we ran 1/2id back to the front of the engine and wouldntcha know it it just stopped leaking.

Q8y_drifter · 10-18-2010, 03:16 PM

I'd love to get a better view of all the intake and exhaust piping. Is the turbo water cooled?

worldfamousz · 10-19-2010, 02:34 PM

FOR the oiling issue would it be at all practical to install a remote oiling system in the back of the car perhaps? I mean, running turbo and exhaust pipes front and back is one thing... But having oil run ALL the way from the front of the car to the rear and then back to the front is pretty insane to me. that's a LOT of oil to fill and the oil needs to be flowing constantly and consistently. I'm not sure if a remote oiling system is at all possible, room wise, but might be something worth looking into for the DIY guys. just install an electric pump, cooler core, filter, and lines to recirc?

209Z · 10-19-2010, 03:47 PM

adding more oil in the z might be beneficial to help cool down the oil temperature. So it actually might be a good thing to have more oil in the car.

danielw · 10-19-2010, 04:57 PM

I've been on the z forums for alot longer than most of the "noobs" on here. Not that being on an internet forum for longer than someone means anything...

WarmAndSCSI · 10-19-2010, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danielw

I've been on the z forums for alot longer than most of the "noobs" on here. Not that being on an internet forum for longer than someone means anything...

No, but clearly having WAY more real-world experience does.

1slow370 · 10-20-2010, 03:16 AM

a separate oil system for the turbo would work but you would need a reservoir, filter, pressure pump, scavange pump, optionally a cooler, and you would have to mount all of that in the back of the car somehow which more than likely means no spare tire and it would cost a hell of a lot more than you would want.

Zsteve · 10-20-2010, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danielw

I've been on the z forums for alot longer than most of the "noobs" on here. Not that being on an internet forum for longer than someone means anything...

This is true, its about staying in a Motel 6, now that makes you an expert in things.

10-17-2010, 08:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
jnaut A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: wpb, fl Posts: 1,146 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 19	whos car is this? pics of the intercooler/ t.b ? does look cool, there are a few things I would do different but good job over all! where did you run the piping through the crossmember? __________________ Best 1/4 mile 12.24 Best mph 114.5_______

10-18-2010, 01:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
209Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Stockton, Cali (209) Posts: 1,058 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 280	want more pics ! want more everything credit card in hand lol =] __________________ Team Blur My Build Thread Fast Intentions\|KWS\|BERK\|Carbon Fiber Element\| SEIBON\|Memphis Car Audio\| Status Autoworks\|Lusso Forged\|Autohaus\|PWJDM\|SPC

10-18-2010, 11:43 AM	#3 (permalink)
JoeyD Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Raeford, NC Posts: 305 Drives: 09 NISMO 370Z Rep Power: 188	PV=NRT I'm just sayin... Hotter turbo (housing) means nothing. __________________ When was the last time you did 230MPH in something with 4 seats?

10-18-2010, 12:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
WarmAndSCSI A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 1,671 Drives: '08 Evo X \| '10 370Z Rep Power: 20	Exactly. It's all about exhaust gas velocity, and a higher exhaust charge temperature is indicative of that. Like I said in my previous post, what is important is how well your pre-turbine-housing piping and turbine housing keep energy (read: heat and velocity) from escaping the exhaust system. With piping that is coated inside and out, and a turbine housing that may or may not be coated with an insulating blanket, there is no harm with a lot of cool air being blown around the turbo. End of story. __________________ '10 PW 370Z 7AT - wife's car - Project Raspberry Cheesecake '08 Evo X - built motor+trans \| BB-X @ 32 psi \| CH3OH \| self-built+tuned - ??? WHP '01 Galant V6 - built motor \| GT35R \| self-built+tuned - 550+ WHP (retired)

10-18-2010, 01:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 24	so we want HAI? __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

10-19-2010, 03:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,733 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7253	hopefully the oiling sysem isn't anything like the 350z one, installed one for one of my guys and the pump was on the other end of 12ft of 3/8 id hose from a tiny nipple on the turbo. it sucked so bad he had oil bypassing the seals at idle filing the intake piping and shooting out the exhaust so bad that when his BOV opened it would spray oil in his engine bay. We had the turbo inspected and it was like new, then i machined the oil fitting on the turbo out to 1/2 npt with a 5/8 id lineto the pump, relocated the pump to the back to reduce restriction and give the pump an easier life pumping oil, then we ran 1/2id back to the front of the engine and wouldntcha know it it just stopped leaking. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

10-18-2010, 03:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
Q8y_drifter Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 306 Drives: 08 Infiniti G35 5AT Rep Power: 17	I'd love to get a better view of all the intake and exhaust piping. Is the turbo water cooled? __________________ 08 G35 5AT Sedan \| Stillen CBE \| Invidia HFC \| Injen CAI \| Uprev Tune \| Akebono BBK \| Tanabe Coilovers \| Hotchkis Sway Bars \| GTSpec FSB \| Black Headlights & Grille \| Volk GT-F Wheels \| Hankook V12 Evo Tires

10-19-2010, 02:34 PM	#10 (permalink)
worldfamousz Base Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: so cal Posts: 52 Drives: mazdaspeed3 Rep Power: 17	FOR the oiling issue would it be at all practical to install a remote oiling system in the back of the car perhaps? I mean, running turbo and exhaust pipes front and back is one thing... But having oil run ALL the way from the front of the car to the rear and then back to the front is pretty insane to me. that's a LOT of oil to fill and the oil needs to be flowing constantly and consistently. I'm not sure if a remote oiling system is at all possible, room wise, but might be something worth looking into for the DIY guys. just install an electric pump, cooler core, filter, and lines to recirc?

10-19-2010, 03:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
209Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Stockton, Cali (209) Posts: 1,058 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 280	adding more oil in the z might be beneficial to help cool down the oil temperature. So it actually might be a good thing to have more oil in the car. __________________ Team Blur My Build Thread Fast Intentions\|KWS\|BERK\|Carbon Fiber Element\| SEIBON\|Memphis Car Audio\| Status Autoworks\|Lusso Forged\|Autohaus\|PWJDM\|SPC

10-19-2010, 04:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
danielw Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 80 Drives: 05 350Z Rep Power: 18	I've been on the z forums for alot longer than most of the "noobs" on here. Not that being on an internet forum for longer than someone means anything...

10-20-2010, 03:16 AM	#14 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,733 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7253	a separate oil system for the turbo would work but you would need a reservoir, filter, pressure pump, scavange pump, optionally a cooler, and you would have to mount all of that in the back of the car somehow which more than likely means no spare tire and it would cost a hell of a lot more than you would want. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

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