STS Systems

Red370 · 10-14-2010, 03:03 PM

Jnaut

RCZ · 10-14-2010, 06:16 PM

I was talking to jnaut and his take on the project is quite different, so not really haha.

WarmAndSCSI · 10-14-2010, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danielw

I wondered that myself... PLUS with these systems, you want the turbo to be as hot as possible, the more the turbo heats up the quicker it spools.

Yeah, no...

The more heat the turbo system is allowed to contain up until the turbine nozzle, the better. Beyond that, you want things to be cool as with anything else. Introducing heat or allowing turbo components to heat soak does nothing for performance.

It's the exhaust charge that you want to remain hot - that is, of a high velocity (in this case the exhaust charge loses energy through lost heat). STS coats their piping inside and out to help with this. Looks like the turbine housing has a blanket on it as well so more insulation there.

The fan is doing nothing there except helping flow some fresh air to the intake.

Jamaica · 10-15-2010, 02:22 PM

pricing: 6400 for full kit with tuning.

RCZ · 10-15-2010, 03:16 PM

For this???

NO way, i would figure the only reason anyone would do this is to save money. For $6400 you might as well go GTM TT>

theDreamer · 10-15-2010, 03:17 PM

Still waiting on a proper dyno graph.
For 6,400 I would jump on a SC which yields the same power with less piping or a little more and you get a TT kit.

Cell · 10-15-2010, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ

For this???

NO way, i would figure the only reason anyone would do this is to save money. For $6400 you might as well go GTM TT>

RCZ · 10-15-2010, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer

Still waiting on a proper dyno graph.
For 6,400 I would jump on a SC which yields the same power with less piping or a little more and you get a TT kit.

Not sure about that, that single turbo will make more power than the sc kits.

I mean its making 470@7psi...which sc unit makes that much?

The turbos got us beat on raw power

Jamaica · 10-15-2010, 03:44 PM

7 psi 474 to the wheel.
can gtm do that? i dont think so

Cell · 10-15-2010, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamaica951

7 psi 474 to the wheel.
can gtm do that? i dont think so

I'd like to see the dyno graphs and more datalogging on it.

theDreamer · 10-15-2010, 03:46 PM

Its peak power is above us, but both SC kits match it point for point until around 6.5-7k RPM range and both SC kits get peak torque well before it.
Using the dyno graph from above it hits peak torque above 5k while the SC kits are well into peak TQ before that. I think the built is interesting but still not 100% with the limited information we have.

209Z · 10-15-2010, 05:17 PM

me wanttt now!

danielw · 10-16-2010, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

Yeah, no...

The more heat the turbo system is allowed to contain up until the turbine nozzle, the better. Beyond that, you want things to be cool as with anything else. Introducing heat or allowing turbo components to heat soak does nothing for performance.

It's the exhaust charge that you want to remain hot - that is, of a high velocity (in this case the exhaust charge loses energy through lost heat). STS coats their piping inside and out to help with this. Looks like the turbine housing has a blanket on it as well so more insulation there.

The fan is doing nothing there except helping flow some fresh air to the intake.

have you owned a rear mount kit? I have. We considered putting a turbo blanket on the turbo. The hotter the turbo gets the quicker it spools up.

Cell · 10-17-2010, 09:30 AM

The kit has been completed for a while now. How come there is no official info on it. No data logs, no dyno graphs, no graphs of any sorts or official numbers.

What is going on?

Jamaica · 10-17-2010, 01:00 PM

there graph and dynos already. need to look

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theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Still waiting on a proper dyno graph. For 6,400 I would jump on a SC which yields the same power with less piping or a little more and you get a TT kit. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

10-15-2010, 03:46 PM	#356 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Its peak power is above us, but both SC kits match it point for point until around 6.5-7k RPM range and both SC kits get peak torque well before it. Using the dyno graph from above it hits peak torque above 5k while the SC kits are well into peak TQ before that. I think the built is interesting but still not 100% with the limited information we have. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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10-15-2010, 03:44 PM	#354 (permalink)
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10-17-2010, 01:00 PM	#360 (permalink)
Jamaica A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 15,362 Drives: Under boost Rep Power: 73	there graph and dynos already. need to look