STS Systems

NYBladeZ · 02-06-2010, 12:03 PM

The expensive part is usually comprised of the turbos supporting mods. Would there be more lag with a single turbo rear setup?

racerxj17 · 02-06-2010, 12:18 PM

turbos are not magic. i have a decent sized turbo on my 700cc UTV that spools great to 15 lbs (aftermarket).

all you need to make a twin set up work, is two properly sized turbos. are you going to run twin 35r's? no, but there are plenty of turbos out there up to the task.

trouble is, what are you gaining? simplicity of have one turbo per MAF? i strongly feel that that is much easier to deal with the intake rather than TWO oil supplies and returns to worry about failing.

sized properly, i doubt on this application you would see much difference in lag, either.

motoextreme · 02-06-2010, 09:27 PM

I'm not giving up, I'll keep trying...could just be tied up or on vacation, who knows.

Don't give up on my yet, lets see how I fare next week. Hope to have great news soon!!!!!

KingDavid · 02-07-2010, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motoextreme

I'm not giving up, I'll keep trying...could just be tied up or on vacation, who knows.

Don't give up on my yet, lets see how I fare next week. Hope to have great news soon!!!!!

You are very patient. Those guys at STS have no idea what's in store for them if they can produce reliable results.

But that customer service....Ehhhhh, got to work on that.

KingDavid · 02-07-2010, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdoske

Agreed, nothing wrong with STS systems. There is just this weird stereotype with the systems since STS has monopolized the market for rear turbo's and people trying to do it themselves with random turbo's typically give less then great results.

Despite the LOL above I still believe rear mounts are different and large displacement engines are required to spool two turbos properly regardless of the turbo type. Not saying it wouldn't work but I don't think the extra cost would be worth the benefit for the small gains with our engine. The fact that the STS system for 350' isn't even offered in a twin setup pretty much tells me that this is true. Probably has largely to do with heat from the exhaust I would imagine. Hell maybe im wrong. only way to know for sure is to call STS, but oh wait that's right! They don't' communicate with there potential customers--lame.

You hit the nail on the head.

kdoske · 02-08-2010, 05:14 PM

So instead of calling the number that was given to me in the automatic response email that I received a few days ago I decided to call STS's main line a push 1 for sales. You'll never guess what happened, Someone picked right up!

I spoke to someone named Adam. I was calling to purchase the universal kit when he began to ask me where I live. I said I knew where he was going but it wasn't going to be me. I'm in Louisiana and he's in Utah! 2000 miles is just to far a drive.

He told me that the R&D department is looking for a 370z to get a kit on the market. I asked if a twin turbo option would be possible and he said they wouldn't know if a twin turbo setup would work until they got it in the shop. So, it looks like even though I was laughed at when I said twin turbo's might not work\worth wild on our car was in fact a true concern even with STS. He did however elaborate that a single turbo would definitely work and with 5-6lb's of FI with no front mount intercooler would yield 100-150lbs of HP on average.

StillenZ · 02-08-2010, 05:54 PM

Nice to hear something... I wish someone nearby could get in touch with them...can't wait to see some results!

Zguy · 02-08-2010, 06:53 PM

If noone has done it in the next 6 months I will.... i will most likely be picking up my 370 Roadster before the summer and then maybe a couple months after that I should have the greenbacks to do it....hopefully they go with a TT and I wont have to experiment lol.... GL man

GingaBreadMan · 02-08-2010, 07:42 PM

I thought I told everyone to contact the sales department and all we need is someone to get their Z down there. I never have a problem with getting in contact with them they have answered and returned my call every time. I'm shocked that ppl are having such a hard time. I know MotoExtreme and someone that lives in Utah is trying to get their Z there. I hope they can make it so I can be TT'd before summer. Good luck guys, don't give up.

schrute · 02-08-2010, 08:26 PM

I'm not planning on FI right now but if it will help you guys out I'll swing by tomorrow. I'm not far from them.

GingaBreadMan · 02-08-2010, 10:10 PM

That would be great. Maybe they will work out a sweet deal for you to get turbo'd sooner.

motoextreme · 02-08-2010, 11:00 PM

He responded to my email today to please call, I called them back no later then 5 minutes after the email. I followed with another call late afternoon and I'll keep trying tomorrow. (I sent two follow up emails as well later in the day)

Point being...Trust me when I say I'm trying!

Update you soon.

StillenZ · 02-09-2010, 09:05 AM

lol... yea every time I email they say to call... they still haven't responded to my 2 emails... I don't get it... like I see thousands and thousands of potential revenue dollars for STS and still no "real" signs that they are that interested... I don't get why they wouldn't hop on here and try to sell some kits

Zguy · 02-09-2010, 10:11 AM

Its probably out of the scope of someones job there. Alot of people are lazy, they will only do what has to be done. Im sure if someone that was a little higher in the food chain there knew there was a large interest here then they would come on and get the ball rolling.

Honestly if you wanted to do the build bad enough its not complicated it would just be time consuming to put everything together.

motoextreme · 02-09-2010, 10:28 AM

I offered to do that. In fact I have two VERY qualified mechanics that are also very good with welding, bending pipe and just about anything else but I don't want to waste the resources if they are doing the same thing.

I'm going to try again in a few... I'll let you guys know the outcome.

02-06-2010, 12:03 PM	#196 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	The expensive part is usually comprised of the turbos supporting mods. Would there be more lag with a single turbo rear setup? __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

02-06-2010, 12:18 PM	#197 (permalink)
racerxj17 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 555 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 17	turbos are not magic. i have a decent sized turbo on my 700cc UTV that spools great to 15 lbs (aftermarket). all you need to make a twin set up work, is two properly sized turbos. are you going to run twin 35r's? no, but there are plenty of turbos out there up to the task. trouble is, what are you gaining? simplicity of have one turbo per MAF? i strongly feel that that is much easier to deal with the intake rather than TWO oil supplies and returns to worry about failing. sized properly, i doubt on this application you would see much difference in lag, either. __________________ 2009 PW Sport/Touring/Nav M6 Stillen Gen 3 Intake/CBE/Berk HFC/BC BR Coil over/Phillips 6500k/Hotchkis Sways/Stillen oil cooler/B&M SS Last edited by racerxj17; 02-06-2010 at 12:20 PM.

02-06-2010, 09:27 PM	#198 (permalink)
motoextreme Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 971 Drives: Nismo NO MODS! Rep Power: 368	I'm not giving up, I'll keep trying...could just be tied up or on vacation, who knows. Don't give up on my yet, lets see how I fare next week. Hope to have great news soon!!!!! __________________ Fast Intensions / NST / Mishimoto / Alpine / JDM / Volk / Brembo / Rotora / Seibon / Stillen / Password: JDM / KW / MR Works / RAW / Sun Auto / B&M / Amplified Motorsports

02-08-2010, 05:14 PM	#201 (permalink)
kdoske Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 541 Drives: 800whp Unicorn FI Z Rep Power: 16	So instead of calling the number that was given to me in the automatic response email that I received a few days ago I decided to call STS's main line a push 1 for sales. You'll never guess what happened, Someone picked right up! I spoke to someone named Adam. I was calling to purchase the universal kit when he began to ask me where I live. I said I knew where he was going but it wasn't going to be me. I'm in Louisiana and he's in Utah! 2000 miles is just to far a drive. He told me that the R&D department is looking for a 370z to get a kit on the market. I asked if a twin turbo option would be possible and he said they wouldn't know if a twin turbo setup would work until they got it in the shop. So, it looks like even though I was laughed at when I said twin turbo's might not work\worth wild on our car was in fact a true concern even with STS. He did however elaborate that a single turbo would definitely work and with 5-6lb's of FI with no front mount intercooler would yield 100-150lbs of HP on average. Last edited by kdoske; 02-08-2010 at 05:23 PM.

02-08-2010, 05:54 PM	#202 (permalink)
StillenZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 283 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Red M Rep Power: 15	Nice to hear something... I wish someone nearby could get in touch with them...can't wait to see some results! __________________ Stillen Dual Exhaust / Stillen Gen 3 Intake / Stillen Headers / Eibach Pro-Kit / Euro Fog Lamp / 1000W JL Audio Amp / 2 - 12' JBL P1222's / Pioneer In-dash Nav

02-08-2010, 06:53 PM	#203 (permalink)
Zguy Base Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 153 Drives: 05 Chrome Silver Rep Power: 16	If noone has done it in the next 6 months I will.... i will most likely be picking up my 370 Roadster before the summer and then maybe a couple months after that I should have the greenbacks to do it....hopefully they go with a TT and I wont have to experiment lol.... GL man

02-08-2010, 07:42 PM	#204 (permalink)
GingaBreadMan Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New York Posts: 313 Drives: 09 370z Sport 6spd Rep Power: 15	I thought I told everyone to contact the sales department and all we need is someone to get their Z down there. I never have a problem with getting in contact with them they have answered and returned my call every time. I'm shocked that ppl are having such a hard time. I know MotoExtreme and someone that lives in Utah is trying to get their Z there. I hope they can make it so I can be TT'd before summer. Good luck guys, don't give up. __________________ ClearBra/Debadging/Tinted Head & Taillights Coming Soon:180° Customs Headlights/ISS Forged Spyder 19" 265*305/Swift Springs/STS Rear Mount Turbo

02-08-2010, 08:26 PM	#205 (permalink)
schrute Track Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: utah Posts: 781 Drives: my z every day Rep Power: 16	I'm not planning on FI right now but if it will help you guys out I'll swing by tomorrow. I'm not far from them. __________________ my journal \| 2009 370z touring \| 6mt \| platinum graphite \| my album second skin \| mr works \| fast intentions \| ssr \| eibach \| hotchkis \| spc \| toyo \| bluebatmobile \| v-led \| jwt \| ventureshield \| tinted tails

02-08-2010, 10:10 PM	#206 (permalink)
GingaBreadMan Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New York Posts: 313 Drives: 09 370z Sport 6spd Rep Power: 15	That would be great. Maybe they will work out a sweet deal for you to get turbo'd sooner. __________________ ClearBra/Debadging/Tinted Head & Taillights Coming Soon:180° Customs Headlights/ISS Forged Spyder 19" 265*305/Swift Springs/STS Rear Mount Turbo

02-08-2010, 11:00 PM	#207 (permalink)
motoextreme Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 971 Drives: Nismo NO MODS! Rep Power: 368	He responded to my email today to please call, I called them back no later then 5 minutes after the email. I followed with another call late afternoon and I'll keep trying tomorrow. (I sent two follow up emails as well later in the day) Point being...Trust me when I say I'm trying! Update you soon. __________________ Fast Intensions / NST / Mishimoto / Alpine / JDM / Volk / Brembo / Rotora / Seibon / Stillen / Password: JDM / KW / MR Works / RAW / Sun Auto / B&M / Amplified Motorsports

02-09-2010, 09:05 AM	#208 (permalink)
StillenZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 283 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Red M Rep Power: 15	lol... yea every time I email they say to call... they still haven't responded to my 2 emails... I don't get it... like I see thousands and thousands of potential revenue dollars for STS and still no "real" signs that they are that interested... I don't get why they wouldn't hop on here and try to sell some kits __________________ Stillen Dual Exhaust / Stillen Gen 3 Intake / Stillen Headers / Eibach Pro-Kit / Euro Fog Lamp / 1000W JL Audio Amp / 2 - 12' JBL P1222's / Pioneer In-dash Nav

02-09-2010, 10:11 AM	#209 (permalink)
Zguy Base Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 153 Drives: 05 Chrome Silver Rep Power: 16	Its probably out of the scope of someones job there. Alot of people are lazy, they will only do what has to be done. Im sure if someone that was a little higher in the food chain there knew there was a large interest here then they would come on and get the ball rolling. Honestly if you wanted to do the build bad enough its not complicated it would just be time consuming to put everything together.

02-09-2010, 10:28 AM	#210 (permalink)
motoextreme Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 971 Drives: Nismo NO MODS! Rep Power: 368	I offered to do that. In fact I have two VERY qualified mechanics that are also very good with welding, bending pipe and just about anything else but I don't want to waste the resources if they are doing the same thing. I'm going to try again in a few... I'll let you guys know the outcome. __________________ Fast Intensions / NST / Mishimoto / Alpine / JDM / Volk / Brembo / Rotora / Seibon / Stillen / Password: JDM / KW / MR Works / RAW / Sun Auto / B&M / Amplified Motorsports

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