Stillen Air to Air setup

JWillis72 · 01-26-2016, 04:31 PM

His suggestion was simply to touch it after a pull, if it burns your finger it's slipping. I think I will use a temperature gun instead of burning my fingers. He also said to do one pull then spray it with belt dressing ( only as a test not a fix) and see if the psi goes up.

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EVOHUNTER · 01-27-2016, 11:56 AM

get me a video of your belt, grab it and twist it for me.

It needs to be really tight. like really tight lol

JWillis72 · 01-27-2016, 12:00 PM

Will do, I will try to do it tomorrow. I will be in meetings all afternoon so I can't get up there today.

TBatt · 01-27-2016, 03:30 PM

Ah, SC porn. I get it.

Go back and read the last two post, read them like you don't know what the subject is.

JWillis72 · 01-27-2016, 06:13 PM

Did either of you guys with the A2A set up run out of room on the tensioner adjustment screw?

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TopgunZ · 01-27-2016, 06:18 PM

Not me. Evo made his slot longer. I think I have a larger idler pulley so you can do that, or put a bigger jackshaft pulley on.

StillenZ84 · 01-27-2016, 06:35 PM

Much easier to just go bigger idler pulley.

JWillis72 · 01-27-2016, 06:48 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-1WSJbcLpk

The guys at the shop shot a video for me.

StillenZ84 · 01-27-2016, 07:07 PM

Yeah mine with the 3 " idler still has around 1/2" more it can be tightened and doesn't quite move that much.

JWillis72 · 01-27-2016, 07:18 PM

Lol, I couldn't remember why I ordered this but I bet that's why!

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EVOHUNTER · 01-27-2016, 08:00 PM

You have a 2.70 right? Had the bracket made with the extended tensioner slot?
if so, all you need to do is put that bad boy on, this is your boost issue.

Your belt is way to loose.

JWillis72 · 01-27-2016, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER

You have a 2.70 right? Had the bracket made with the extended tensioner slot?
if so, all you need to do is put that bad boy on, this is your boost issue.

Your belt is way to loose.

I have the stillen one on but don't have the the two nuts like that and yes it has the extended slot. the one I posted in the picture is a 3" pulley.

BOLIO 671 · 01-28-2016, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StillenZ84

Yeah e85 is starting to pop up more and more here too. The manifold seems to be really well built but yeah don't know if you would ever get a straight answer out of Stillen on how much pressure it could actually handle. It seems they stay quiet about most things and word is they are developing an ata setup as we speak. I cant see them changing the manifold too much.

So I spoke to a rep at Stillen and he was able to confirm that they are working on an upgrade to be released in a few months, however it is not a A2A setup. Their reasoning is that several customers have tried this custom setup on their own and it has been proven to be unsuccessful.....

I really wish they did what Tops pointed out and listened to their customers.....I mean Stillen is a big brand name with the money, personnel, and time to do actual R&D on this set up....they could even take notes or consult with the customers that have been successful with this setup. I'm curious to see what type of upgrades they have in store....I'm hoping that it involves relocating the MAF'S post blower closer to the intake so that we can at least get accurate AIT's.

TopgunZ · 01-28-2016, 07:56 AM

Interesting. Right now I think I am the only one who has gotten this to work out good. So good in fact that I am searching forums for a good used V1 Ti or Si trim head unit. Those can be taken to higher RPM's, you can use COGs safely on them, and they max out at 26psi vs. the 22psi mine is rated for. I wouldn't be doing that if I felt my setup was not adequate. My intake temps are barely above ambient.

Now hearing its still going to be w2a is a bit disappointing. So I'm guessing the only redesign they will do is move those MAF's post blower. Which still kind of sucks. The MAF's will now read ultra hot temps since the intercooler will be after the mafs themselves. So the car will still not be able to understand how to advance or retard timing. Plus that tiny aftercooler sucks ballz. It would be safer to run higher boost, but power wise it is still going to be on the bottom of the barrel. Sure, someone might get on the dyno and rip a near 500whp pull, but that is a dyno queen world, not the real world. Once heat soak takes hold on the street, which will happen quickly, then that thing will lose hp like crazy.

Chuck33079 · 01-28-2016, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Interesting. Right now I think I am the only one who has gotten this to work out good. So good in fact that I am searching forums for a good used V1 Ti or Si trim head unit. Those can be taken to higher RPM's, you can use COGs safely on them, and they max out at 26psi vs. the 22psi mine is rated for. I wouldn't be doing that if I felt my setup was not adequate. My intake temps are barely above ambient.

Now hearing its still going to be w2a is a bit disappointing. So I'm guessing the only redesign they will do is move those MAF's post blower. Which still kind of sucks. The MAF's will now read ultra hot temps since the intercooler will be after the mafs themselves. So the car will still not be able to understand how to advance or retard timing. Plus that tiny aftercooler sucks ballz. It would be safer to run higher boost, but power wise it is still going to be on the bottom of the barrel. Sure, someone might get on the dyno and rip a near 500whp pull, but that is a dyno queen world, not the real world. Once heat soak takes hold on the street, which will happen quickly, then that thing will lose hp like crazy.

Any chance of your setup getting reproduced? Seems like the interest is there.

01-26-2016, 04:31 PM	#1231 (permalink)
JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 44	His suggestion was simply to touch it after a pull, if it burns your finger it's slipping. I think I will use a temperature gun instead of burning my fingers. He also said to do one pull then spray it with belt dressing ( only as a test not a fix) and see if the psi goes up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk wsarver likes this.

01-27-2016, 11:56 AM	#1232 (permalink)
EVOHUNTER Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 681 Drives: BOOSTED3-7-0 Rep Power: 14	get me a video of your belt, grab it and twist it for me. It needs to be really tight. like really tight lol TopgunZ and StillenZ84 like this. __________________

01-27-2016, 03:30 PM	#1234 (permalink)
TBatt Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 832 Drives: 2019 GT-R Rep Power: 20168	Ah, SC porn. I get it. Go back and read the last two post, read them like you don't know what the subject is. JWillis72, wsarver and blobbish like this. __________________ RJM pedal, Hotchkis Sway Bars, FI TDX, FOG Light, Z1 Slotted Drilled rotors, Stillen SC, Quaife ATB, Z1 Oil cooler, AEM Gauge Set, Galeforce gauge mount, Avant Garde M590 Hypersilver w/RE-11, TopgunZ A2A kit., ECUtek tuned by Seb: ROLL TIDE!

01-27-2016, 06:18 PM	#1236 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6833	Not me. Evo made his slot longer. I think I have a larger idler pulley so you can do that, or put a bigger jackshaft pulley on. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM Last edited by TopgunZ; 01-27-2016 at 06:20 PM.

01-27-2016, 06:35 PM	#1237 (permalink)
StillenZ84 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 316 Drives: 2010 370Z 7AT S/C Rep Power: 17	Much easier to just go bigger idler pulley. __________________ AtA SC\|9 lb pulley\|2.85" SC\|3.47" Jack\|E85\|CJM S1-SE\|ID1000s\|Walboro 485\|Zeitronix FF\|Stillen CBE\|AP Racing\|Level 10\|F.I. Flex plate\|Nismo-S tune\|EcuTek RaceRom\|Sebz\|Speed density\|Haltech\|3GsCustoms Dual pod a-pillar\|Carbon Signal GTR gauges\|Fujimura\|Built\| CP Pistons/Carrillo rods\|PortPolishHeads/intakes\|928motorsports IG: evanosteenz34

01-27-2016, 12:00 PM	#1233 (permalink)
JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 44	Will do, I will try to do it tomorrow. I will be in meetings all afternoon so I can't get up there today.

01-27-2016, 06:13 PM	#1235 (permalink)
JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 44	Did either of you guys with the A2A set up run out of room on the tensioner adjustment screw? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01-27-2016, 06:48 PM	#1238 (permalink)
JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 44	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-1WSJbcLpk The guys at the shop shot a video for me.

01-27-2016, 07:07 PM	#1239 (permalink)
StillenZ84 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 316 Drives: 2010 370Z 7AT S/C Rep Power: 17	Yeah mine with the 3 " idler still has around 1/2" more it can be tightened and doesn't quite move that much. __________________ AtA SC\|9 lb pulley\|2.85" SC\|3.47" Jack\|E85\|CJM S1-SE\|ID1000s\|Walboro 485\|Zeitronix FF\|Stillen CBE\|AP Racing\|Level 10\|F.I. Flex plate\|Nismo-S tune\|EcuTek RaceRom\|Sebz\|Speed density\|Haltech\|3GsCustoms Dual pod a-pillar\|Carbon Signal GTR gauges\|Fujimura\|Built\| CP Pistons/Carrillo rods\|PortPolishHeads/intakes\|928motorsports IG: evanosteenz34

01-27-2016, 07:18 PM	#1240 (permalink)
JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 44	Lol, I couldn't remember why I ordered this but I bet that's why! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk StillenZ84 likes this.

01-27-2016, 08:00 PM	#1241 (permalink)
EVOHUNTER Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 681 Drives: BOOSTED3-7-0 Rep Power: 14	You have a 2.70 right? Had the bracket made with the extended tensioner slot? if so, all you need to do is put that bad boy on, this is your boost issue. Your belt is way to loose. StillenZ84 likes this. __________________

01-28-2016, 07:56 AM	#1244 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6833	Interesting. Right now I think I am the only one who has gotten this to work out good. So good in fact that I am searching forums for a good used V1 Ti or Si trim head unit. Those can be taken to higher RPM's, you can use COGs safely on them, and they max out at 26psi vs. the 22psi mine is rated for. I wouldn't be doing that if I felt my setup was not adequate. My intake temps are barely above ambient. Now hearing its still going to be w2a is a bit disappointing. So I'm guessing the only redesign they will do is move those MAF's post blower. Which still kind of sucks. The MAF's will now read ultra hot temps since the intercooler will be after the mafs themselves. So the car will still not be able to understand how to advance or retard timing. Plus that tiny aftercooler sucks ballz. It would be safer to run higher boost, but power wise it is still going to be on the bottom of the barrel. Sure, someone might get on the dyno and rip a near 500whp pull, but that is a dyno queen world, not the real world. Once heat soak takes hold on the street, which will happen quickly, then that thing will lose hp like crazy. JWillis72, EliteXpress and StillenZ84 like this. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

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