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JWillis72 08-10-2015 04:41 PM

I found a shop that says they will make it but I have to bring them mine to get a price.

EVOHUNTER 08-10-2015 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3281471)
I found a shop that says they will make it but I have to bring them mine to get a price.

I can get the 3d scan from my buddy.. probably would save u money!
so they don't have to build it on there computer

TopgunZ 08-10-2015 05:13 PM

Can anyone tell me the original size of the pulleys on the back of the plate? So the rear jackshaft and SC pulleys?

EVOHUNTER 08-10-2015 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3281490)
Can anyone tell me the original size of the pulleys on the back of the plate? So the rear jackshaft and SC pulleys?

jack 3.20 supercharger 3.20

JWillis72 08-10-2015 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER (Post 3281472)
I can get the 3d scan from my buddy.. probably would save u money!
so they don't have to build it on there computer

That would be greatly appreciated!I now have everything but the long tube headers, tubing, block off plate for the intake and this piece.

Can you see any reason Stillen made it thinner at the bottom? It seems like extra work for nothing.

EVOHUNTER 08-10-2015 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3281496)
That would be greatly appreciated!I now have everything but the long tube headers, tubing, block off plate for the intake and this piece.

Can you see any reason Stillen made it thinner at the bottom? It seems like extra work for nothing.

they did this so you don't have to hold the bolt with a wrench, the head of the bolt sits in there. but theres more then enough room to get a wrench in.

jwick 08-10-2015 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER (Post 3281470)
my buddy did it for me for a case of beer at his cnc shop. :)

Good buddy:tup:

TopgunZ 08-10-2015 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER (Post 3281493)
jack 3.20 supercharger 3.20

Thanks bud!

EVOHUNTER 08-10-2015 07:33 PM

So it works absolutely perfect! I decided to mount the corner bracket like stillen did. I used 2 random nuts from my shops junk bin. This should Add some more strength in that area. I'm going to figure out a spacer or something for there. But the r&d part is done. Now its just painting stuff and putting back together. Theres a few things i needed to do to make it work. Ill post it all up tomorrow morning.

Also, the supercharger pulley looks like its touching, its not. there a lot of room there.
This setup is a 2.75 on charger 3.20 jack, 2.90 serp


http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...psow0z0zie.jpg

JWillis72 08-10-2015 07:42 PM

Wow, it came out great! Nice work!

ANMVQ 08-11-2015 07:21 AM

looking good man!

StillenZ84 08-11-2015 01:01 PM

Looks great!

Z&I 08-11-2015 01:29 PM

looks real purty ...

EVOHUNTER 08-11-2015 02:04 PM

Just painting everything as we speak. I also purchased a 3" honey comb air straighter for my pipe right before the mafs. Topgunz was telling me about it, I watched a few videos and I was sold. really cheap too 20.00$.

TopgunZ 08-11-2015 11:34 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Here is the volute clocked 180. A 45 degree coupler fits well off the end.

jwick 08-12-2015 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER (Post 3282331)
Just painting everything as we speak. I also purchased a 3" honey comb air straighter for my pipe right before the mafs. Topgunz was telling me about it, I watched a few videos and I was sold. really cheap too 20.00$.


A flow conditioner. We use those all the time offshore for metering when we don't have enough straight pipe to get a good reading.

JWillis72 08-12-2015 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3282798)
Here is the volute clocked 180. A 45 degree coupler fits well off the end.

Why can't you use a 90 degree to go straight down?

TopgunZ 08-12-2015 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3283502)
Why can't you use a 90 degree to go straight down?

You could, but it will then need to go under the shroud or wrap around with more bends.

TopgunZ 08-12-2015 09:25 PM

Which direction does the main bracket flex when it occurs? Up, down, toward engine or away?

Pro4Jackster 08-13-2015 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3283734)
Which direction does the main bracket flex when it occurs? Up, down, toward engine or away?

It's pulled toward the crank pulley, which loosens and misaligns the serpentine belt. The resistance to spin the blower gets greater the more cfm/psi you produce. So the belt has to pull harder as rpms and load increase. This is my understanding of it all. Someone should mount a GoPro on the car during a dyno run.

TopgunZ 08-13-2015 08:28 AM

I should try going with a fixed serpentine idler pulley instead of that tensioned one. I think this would help a lot.

EVOHUNTER 08-13-2015 09:06 AM

Yes ,Pro is right.

the charger will pull towards the front of the car.

My tensioner plate on the back of the blower bent when I tightened it up, this is why I had the bracket made.

TopgunZ 08-13-2015 10:23 AM

Thanks for the feedback guys but I'm a bit confused. Towards the front and towards the crank pulley are kind of two different directions. Is it kind of both then? More like towards the radiator if you could draw a line?

Trying to figure out a good solution for anyone who wants to go for high psi.

Driftomodachi 08-13-2015 10:42 AM

Stillen just developed one:

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...811_160055.jpg

TopgunZ 08-13-2015 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Driftomodachi (Post 3284078)

Wait. What am I looking at?

batboyvaj 08-13-2015 11:13 AM

It looks like a water cooled unit by the size of the end tanks.

Z&I 08-13-2015 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Driftomodachi (Post 3284078)

Still looks like Water to Air ... note the manifold still has the water connections.
Maybe they figured out that their kit needs more cooling if they ever want to offer more power as an upgrade option...now all they need to do is work out how to read the IAT correctly.

jwick 08-13-2015 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Z&I (Post 3284162)
Still looks like Water to Air ... note the manifold still has the water connections.

Maybe they figured out that their kit needs more cooling if they ever want to offer more power as an upgrade option...now all they need to do is work out how to read the IAT correctly.


:I agree: cool all you want but if the engine doesn't know what temperatures its receiving there are still going to be some issues. Relocating MAFs like Sasha did is key to safely running additional power.

TopgunZ 08-13-2015 12:46 PM

This looks like they took a 350Z stillen kit front mount W2A and made it fit on a 370. That ic looks like the one I had on mine. This design doesn't fix anything other than maybe avoiding some heat soak. Like a couple degrees.

ANMVQ 08-13-2015 01:42 PM

Looks like they finally took my idea ! LOL looks like the frozenboost exchanger.

EVOHUNTER 08-13-2015 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Driftomodachi (Post 3284078)

Developed what?

its a stillen kit with a frozen boost intercooler.

this should have been done when they designed there kit,

For Christ sake my oil cooler is bigger than there intercooler they supply lol

TopgunZ 08-13-2015 02:51 PM

Anyway..Back to bracket flex...

JWillis72 08-13-2015 03:04 PM

I plan to have a brace made like ANMVQ had made to try to keep it from flexing.


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JWillis72 08-13-2015 03:05 PM

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EVOHUNTER 08-13-2015 03:35 PM

Topz has one, that exact one lol. I need to make one aswell.

Ill tackle this tomorrow.

I bought a 3/4" threaded 32 " long bar from metal supply.

2, 3" long by 3/4 " threaded spacers. I just need to fab up 2 backets, one for in the intake mani and one for the blower then weld them together! :)

TopgunZ 08-13-2015 04:11 PM

I have that brace. So if you need me to replicate it I can. I have the Evohunter bracket getting milled as we speak.

FYI... This tie rod has ball joints at the connectors.

JWillis72 08-13-2015 04:35 PM

If you can reproduce it I would love to buy one! My car is going to the shop tomorrow to start taking it apart. I don't have the PPE long tube headers yet but there is lots of stuff still to do.


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JWillis72 08-13-2015 04:45 PM

Because I track my car I decided to spend the money on the 928 72,000 rpm rebuild kit for the supercharger. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08...6c0ba094ba.jpg


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EVOHUNTER 08-13-2015 04:51 PM

Im having trouble finding a tie rod that's an opened eye lit design

All I can find is a inner tie rod for quads, So I think I buy 2 of those and weld them up.

those bearings are sick man! im going to do these aswell for next year.

JWillis72 08-13-2015 05:01 PM

Evo, did you know they no longer make the 850cc injectors you have? We are using 1000s in mine.


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