Car won't start!...and it's not the Steering Lock...

Pintsize725 · 07-01-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Did yours always fire up the next round? Or did it take a few cycles, like wheee! mentioned?

The only instance of it not starting up on the next round was the day we met with Deanna to hit Trudy's. I tried about 8 or so times to start it and nothing would happen. Other than that, the second time is the charm so far.

jpritche · 07-01-2013, 04:33 PM

I had this happen whenever I left my keyfob in the car overnight over the winter and it was very cold. Haven't had a problem since. It only happened on those two nights that I left the fob in the car overnight in the cold though.

JARblue · 07-01-2013, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB

When I removed my steering lock fuse, sometimes my car wouldn't start when pushing the start button, only when I would put the key into the fob was when it would finally start. I bought a new REV D lock, installed it and put the fuse back in, no more starting issues. Maybe yours could be related?

Your first sentence points to low key fob battery. I had ESCL Rev D stock, but I still removed the fuse. About 9 months later, the start delay is still very occasional.

MJB · 07-01-2013, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pintsize725

wheee!, had the same problem as JARblue mentioned above. Has not happened in a bit over a week but I am now experiencing the "normal" start delay more frequently.

Same here... Started getting the delayed start... Then a couple months later the car would only start when I would put the key in the fob... Put the fuse back in, installed new lock just to be safe, and the car is starting fine now.

Pintsize725 · 07-01-2013, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB

Same here... Started getting the delayed start... Then a couple months later the car would only start when I would put the key in the fob... Put the fuse back in, installed new lock just to be safe, and the car is starting fine now.

I do use the fobgina daily though.....

kenchan · 07-01-2013, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pintsize725

I do use the fobgina daily though.....

does it make any difference if you kept the fob in your purse or inserted in the fob slot?

Pintsize725 · 07-01-2013, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

does it make any difference if you kept the fob in your purse or inserted in the fob slot?

Your guess is as good as mine. I only use it for easy access to my gate remote since I don't have Homelink.

kenchan · 07-01-2013, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pintsize725

Your guess is as good as mine. I only use it for easy access to my gate remote since I don't have Homelink.

hummmm...

wheee! · 07-01-2013, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Your first sentence points to low key fob battery. I had ESCL Rev D stock, but I still removed the fuse. About 9 months later, the start delay is still very occasional.

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Originally Posted by MJB

Same here... Started getting the delayed start... Then a couple months later the car would only start when I would put the key in the fob... Put the fuse back in, installed new lock just to be safe, and the car is starting fine now.

Sounds like I need the new steering lock assembly. I already replaced the key fob battery too....

MJB · 07-01-2013, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Your first sentence points to low key fob battery. I had ESCL Rev D stock, but I still removed the fuse. About 9 months later, the start delay is still very occasional.

Negative... that was the first thing I did. Replaced batteries in both keys. Same thing would happen. Sometimes it would start the first push of the start button, other times the "no key" would light up on the display and show the "insert key into port" picture.... Sometimes if the car wouldn't start using the button, I could hit the unlock button on my key while I was in the car, and then push the start button and everything started like normal.. It was like the ECU was confused or something after I removed the steering lock fuse, like it couldn't read the key anymore unless I plugged it into the port...

Anyways, everything is good now. And as far as I know, my REV C was working fine... I only bought a REV D because a member on here was selling it for dirt cheap. So after I put the fuse back in, I went ahead and installed the new lock... starts with absolutely no problems.

kenchan · 07-01-2013, 07:40 PM

MJB- sounds good! I too use RevC and have a working RevB in the trunk with tools at all times.

I'm using a 10mm bolt so very easy to swap out in the field.

olddudesrule · 07-01-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce

Check your clutch switches?

Second this idea^. Happened recently to another member.

edit: should have read ahead....Good luck with the fix.

MJB · 07-01-2013, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

MJB- sounds good! I too use RevC and have a working RevB in the trunk with tools at all times.

I'm using a 10mm bolt so very easy to swap out in the field.

Lol same here. Keep the REV C in the glove box, and I'm using regular bolts so I can change it out on the fly

kenchan · 07-01-2013, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB

Lol same here. Keep the REV C in the glove box, and I'm using regular bolts so I can change it out on the fly

wheee! · 07-02-2013, 07:29 AM

Well I changed the ignition switch, no difference. Then I put the 10A fuse for the steering lock assembly back in the IPDM, no difference....

I am starting to think that maybe I have a defective clutch switch as the culprit. I know it's fully engaging the switch, but maybe the switch is defective or faulty.

07-01-2013, 07:40 PM	#26 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	MJB- sounds good! I too use RevC and have a working RevB in the trunk with tools at all times. I'm using a 10mm bolt so very easy to swap out in the field. MJB likes this.

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wheee! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mod Capital of Canada Age: 57 Posts: 7,354 Drives: cars. lots of cars. Rep Power: 40181	Well I changed the ignition switch, no difference. Then I put the 10A fuse for the steering lock assembly back in the IPDM, no difference.... I am starting to think that maybe I have a defective clutch switch as the culprit. I know it's fully engaging the switch, but maybe the switch is defective or faulty. __________________ H&R / Stillen / Berk / HKS / Swift / Michelin / UpRev / SPC / Amuse Rep / Seibon / Fringe XVO / TWM / more... My Journal

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jpritche A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Cartersville, Ga Age: 32 Posts: 2,571 Drives: '15 RR, '14 IS250 Rep Power: 30	I had this happen whenever I left my keyfob in the car overnight over the winter and it was very cold. Haven't had a problem since. It only happened on those two nights that I left the fob in the car overnight in the cold though.