2010 Nismo has an Oil Cooler!

Equinox · 10-13-2009, 05:01 PM

they screwed up so they BS'd a reason. That's all it really is.

Technik330 · 10-14-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Equinox

What's the number? I'll call as well to make sure they realize this is an actual concern.

Was it this one?

Nissan Consumer Affairs
P.O. Box 685003
Franklin TN 37068-5003
(800) NISSAN-1 (or 800-647-7261)
8:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m.,
Eastern / Central Time / Pacific Time
Monday through Friday

Sorry I missed this post, yes, I called the 1-800 number.

I'm baffled that the lack of an oil cooler, especially on the Nismo, can be accepted, on any level.

I believe if a company, such as Nissan, takes the time (which is money) to issue an "official statement" regarding one of their products; that directly illustrates the seriousness of the situation. Which leads me to beileve enough individuals/consumers have made it a point to address the situation with their dealers and/or service people to where it's been escalated to the coporate level. This alone should be enough for them to at least invesitigate the problem thoroughly.

Maybe, I'll never see 220+ plus degrees, but having test driven a nismo z, and having reaced 220+ degree oil temperatures on 3-4 mile test drives, at night and over 2 nights (back to back), leaves me concerned. MY 07' STI w/ mods doesn't hit 220+ when I'm "spiritedly" driving the car.

You can't deny the validity of my concern, as a member this morning posted, his auto 370's motor is going to be replaced at 2,100 miles-

The more people who make noise, the easier it is for Nissan to hear it, period-

theDreamer · 10-14-2009, 01:24 PM

Oh we have made noise, and we got that three paragraph response.
On the street you really should not hit anything above 250, I have hit 250 and it instantly dropped as I was pushing the car a little beyond legal limits.

On the notion of the engine replacement, this has to do with low oil levels. Maybe because of high oil temps but I really doubt it.

Technik330 · 10-14-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Oh we have made noise, and we got that three paragraph response.
On the street you really should not hit anything above 250, I have hit 250 and it instantly dropped as I was pushing the car a little beyond legal limits.

On the notion of the engine replacement, this has to do with low oil levels. Maybe because of high oil temps but I really doubt it.

If noise has been made and ,only, a 3 paragraph response given; more noise ought to be made, agreed?

If there's no recall for an oil cooler install and motors are being replaced. This directly weakens the car's resale value, due to differing chassis and motor mileage.

Am I assuming that motors could be replaced due to higher oil temps / consumption? Yes, I am, and I'd like to know where the oil is going, as it's obviously not staying in the motors. Theer's no excuse for a motor to be replaced at 2,100 miles, that's laughable at best-

I want to get a Nismo Z, I really do, but if Nissan is more satisfied with replacing motors than installing oil coolers...

1 replaced motor = how many oil coolers, anyone have any idea?

Modshack · 10-14-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Technik330

If noise has been made and ,only, a 3 paragraph response given; more noise ought to be made, agreed?

If there's no recall for an oil cooler install and motors are being replaced. This directly weakens the car's resale value, due to differing chassis and motor mileage.

Am I assuming that motors could be replaced due to higher oil temps / consumption? Yes, I am, and I'd like to know where the oil is going, as it's obviously not staying in the motors. Theer's no excuse for a motor to be replaced at 2,100 miles, that's laughable at best-

I want to get a Nismo Z, I really do, but if Nissan is more satisfied with replacing motors than installing oil coolers...

1 replaced motor = how many oil coolers, anyone have any idea?

There is no recall

Engines are not being replaced due to oil temps (where did this come from?)

Most engines stop consuming oil once broken in

Engine replacements at low miles are because of isolated catastrophic parts failures. Not the norm

False internet rumors continue despite all these issues being addressed at length here... Ah well.

Technik330 · 10-14-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

There is no recall

Engines are not being replaced due to oil temps (where did this come from?)

Most engines stop consuming oil once broken in

Engine replacements at low miles are because of isolated catastrophic parts failures. Not the norm

False internet rumors continue despite all these issues being addressed at length here... Ah well.

You missed my point; I'm aware there's no recall (I meant in the near future) and that the oil temps may not be the specific cause, but we can agree that oil can vaporize at higher temperatures. I'm not saying 2xx degrees will cause oil to vaporize, but in conjunction with higher oil temperatues, consumption can eventually occur, which I'm assuming to be the culprit behind the 2,100 engine replacement.

All good though, I'd like some more in-depth info. I called Nissan, again, and I'm hoping some "tech" person will be able to give me some solid answers to some of the items you've mentioned.

Equinox · 10-14-2009, 04:17 PM

I bought a diff cooler and oil cooler from GTM for my nismo for that exact equation

1 replaced motor = how many oil coolers?

FuszNissan · 10-14-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Technik330

You missed my point; I'm aware oil temps may not be the specific cause, but we can agree that oil can vaporize at higher temperatures. I'm not saying 2xx degrees will cause that, but in conjunction with higher temperatues, consumption can occur, which I'm assuming to be the culprit behind the 2,100 engine replacement.

Not the case, it is other parts going wrong. For an engine to lose 4 3/8 qrts of oil in 1900 miles, is not vaporizing. You are talking seals lined up and dumping oil out the exhaust. Trust me I know. Look at my sig...lol

Technik330 · 10-14-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan

Not the case, it is other parts going wrong. For an engine to lose 4 3/8 qrts of oil in 1900 miles, is not vaporizing. You are talking seals lined up and dumping oil out the exhaust. Trust me I know. Look at my sig...lol

I saw Mod's post in the other thread, regarding your car specifically I believe. If oil was being dumped out the exhaust, wouldn't the car have been smoking up quite the storm, ie: lots and lots of white smoke coming out the exhaust?

All good, I'm not trying to piss people off or mislead anyone, I'm just a bit annoyed this motor seems to have an interesting appetite for oil-

-Chris

Modshack · 10-14-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Technik330

which I'm assuming to be the culprit behind the 2,100 engine replacement.

All good though, I'd like some more in-depth info. I called Nissan, again, and I'm hoping some "tech" person will be able to give me some solid answers to some of the items you've mentioned.

Your assumptions are wrong. Oil did not "Vaporize" out of the engine.

Also, knowing how OEM customer relations operations work (21 years with Honda), you're not gonna get squat out of them regarding your questions on this...

It's not a problem unless you make it one...

Technik330 · 10-14-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Your assumptions are wrong. Oil did not "Vaporize" out of the engine.

Also, knowing how OEM customer relations operations work (21 years with Honda), you're not gonna get squat out of them regarding your questions on this...

It's not a problem unless you make it one...

I guess a little mockery is earned, lol-

I hope you're not eluding to oil being unable to vaporize, ie: burning oil, right?

What problem are you referring to?

Modshack · 10-14-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Technik330

I guess a little mockery is earned, lol-

I hope you're not eluding to oil being unable to vaporize, ie: burning oil, right?

What problem are you referring to?

LOL...Yeah...

Of course oil can vaporize but not at any temperature you'll ever see on the street! Even pushed, guys are having a hard time seeing 260 degrees. Maybe 280 Plus on the track, which are well below the point oil will "Vaporize"..

On the problem I meant it's not really one...Every now and then someone starts a "Cry wolf" thread be it Oil temps, Oil usage, Engines blowing up, Transmissions grinding yada yada.... There are close to 10,000 Z's out there now in the US. If there was really a problem I think we and Nissan would know about it. I'm convinced my car was built in a different factory as I have none of the (often Whiny) complaints expressed here...

Don't let any of this crap keep you from buying one if you like the car.

Technik330 · 10-14-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

LOL...Yeah...

Of course oil can vaporize but not at any temperature you'll ever see on the street! Even pushed, guys are having a hard time seeing 260 degrees. Maybe 280 Plus on the track, which are well below the point oil will "Vaporize"..

On the problem I meant it's not really one...Every now and then someone starts a "Cry wolf" thread be it Oil temps, Oil usage, Engines blowing up, Transmissions grinding yada yada.... There are close to 10,000 Z's out there now in the US. If there was really a problem I think we and Nissan would know about it. I'm convinced my car was built in a different factory as I have none of the (often Whiny) complaints expressed here...

Don't let any of this crap keep you from buying one if you like the car.

I'm still determined to get one; I just want to make sure there's little to no "issues," whether they be BS or not, that I have to worry about. I wouldn't exactly call a 370z, nismo or non-nismo, a cheap car.

Again, I just want to make sure I'm buying a car I wont have to worry about drinking oil, have motors swapped, etc.

-Chris

Equinox · 10-14-2009, 07:42 PM

my only issue is my Nismo hates to be driven slowly from point A to point B. It wants to be on the track, from drivetrain noise, to hard suspension. It's a good thing in my eyes.

10-13-2009, 05:01 PM	#31 (permalink)
Equinox Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Beaumont, TX Posts: 685 Drives: 06 Porsche Carrera S Rep Power: 17	they screwed up so they BS'd a reason. That's all it really is. __________________ Check out my Albums '13 Subaru WRX STi \| '06 Porsche 911 Carrera S (SOLD) \| '96 Mazda RX-7 6.0L V8 RHD (SOLD) \| '09 Nissan Nismo #0058 (SOLD)

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theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Oh we have made noise, and we got that three paragraph response. On the street you really should not hit anything above 250, I have hit 250 and it instantly dropped as I was pushing the car a little beyond legal limits. On the notion of the engine replacement, this has to do with low oil levels. Maybe because of high oil temps but I really doubt it. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

10-14-2009, 04:17 PM	#37 (permalink)
Equinox Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Beaumont, TX Posts: 685 Drives: 06 Porsche Carrera S Rep Power: 17	I bought a diff cooler and oil cooler from GTM for my nismo for that exact equation 1 replaced motor = how many oil coolers? __________________ Check out my Albums '13 Subaru WRX STi \| '06 Porsche 911 Carrera S (SOLD) \| '96 Mazda RX-7 6.0L V8 RHD (SOLD) \| '09 Nissan Nismo #0058 (SOLD)

10-14-2009, 07:42 PM	#44 (permalink)
Equinox Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Beaumont, TX Posts: 685 Drives: 06 Porsche Carrera S Rep Power: 17	my only issue is my Nismo hates to be driven slowly from point A to point B. It wants to be on the track, from drivetrain noise, to hard suspension. It's a good thing in my eyes. __________________ Check out my Albums '13 Subaru WRX STi \| '06 Porsche 911 Carrera S (SOLD) \| '96 Mazda RX-7 6.0L V8 RHD (SOLD) \| '09 Nissan Nismo #0058 (SOLD)

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