Oil Temperatures ?

TexasChuck · 08-23-2013, 04:44 PM

How hot is too hot. What temperature is detrimental to the engine?
Chuck

1325 · 08-23-2013, 04:52 PM

I think at 260 degrees F is when it goes into a safe mode automatically, cutting significant power to the engine. I'm considering an oil cooler as I hit 220 with no effort on the highway, at least where I'm at in Florida where temperature and humidity are both always high.

TexasChuck · 08-23-2013, 04:54 PM

Good! I did not know it has a safe mode. Txs

SouthArk370Z · 08-23-2013, 05:01 PM

I don't get worried until my oil temp gets above 240 or so (200-220 seems to be normal). As mentioned above, the car will protect itself when the oil temp gets to 260 or there about. The oil can take up to about 300 F.

blueranger · 08-23-2013, 10:35 PM

I would hit 220-240 with spirited driving and once I installed the 25 row cooler I see 190-210 and 220 if I push her hard.

ka24king · 08-23-2013, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by blueranger

I would hit 220-240 with spirited driving and once I installed the 25 row cooler I see 190-210 and 220 if I push her hard.

Sounds nice can't wait to have my cooler !

Verbal21 · 08-25-2013, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by blueranger

I would hit 220-240 with spirited driving and once I installed the 25 row cooler I see 190-210 and 220 if I push her hard.

Which cooler did you get?

onzedge · 08-25-2013, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by blueranger

I would hit 220-240 with spirited driving and once I installed the 25 row cooler I see 190-210 and 220 if I push her hard.

370Zsteve · 08-25-2013, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

I don't get worried until my oil temp gets above 240 or so (200-220 seems to be normal). As mentioned above, the car will protect itself when the oil temp gets to 260 or there about. The oil can take up to about 300 F.

220F is not normal. It is freakin' hot. This has been discussed ad nauseam. Get an oil cooler! It is my next mod.

IDZRVIT · 08-24-2013, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TexasChuck

How hot is too hot. What temperature is detrimental to the engine?
Chuck

300F. Read the test requirements for new SM/SN API certified oils. Why do you think the Z engineers decided on the limp mode temp of ~280F and not 260, 240, 264, 228, etc? The 260F temp limit is passe and old oil technology. Newer materials technology can withstand higher temps for modern cars thus the requirement for SM/SN oils.

ChrisSlicks · 08-24-2013, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT

300F. Read the test requirements for new SM/SN API certified oils. Why do you think the Z engineers decided on the limp mode temp of ~280F and not 260, 240, 264, 228, etc? The 260F temp limit is passe and old oil technology. Newer materials technology can withstand higher temps for modern cars thus the requirement for SM/SN oils.

This is correct. Stage one limp mode isn't until 280F, stage two limp mode is 300F but probably pretty difficult to reach when already restricted.

Synthetic oils can handle the high temperatures much better, but even they suffer some break down if above 260F for an extended period. It is a good idea to shorten your oil change interval if your engine spends time at high temperatures frequently.

Jordo! · 08-25-2013, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT

300F. Read the test requirements for new SM/SN API certified oils. Why do you think the Z engineers decided on the limp mode temp of ~280F and not 260, 240, 264, 228, etc? The 260F temp limit is passe and old oil technology. Newer materials technology can withstand higher temps for modern cars thus the requirement for SM/SN oils.

On a related note, to the best of my knowledge, pushing the car hard before temps approach 170-180* isn't a great idea (but if more recent data says otherwise, please correct me).

A tuner friend has told me that the ECU will pull a bit of timing as the oil temps climb over 200*F.

OP, unless you are routinely seeing temps over 240* F in normal driving, I wouldn't even worry about it.

kfull · 08-25-2013, 10:18 AM

I rarely get above 220 with normal highway driving

Mt Tam I am · 08-25-2013, 11:38 AM

I once knew high oil temps. Since my oil cooler was installed I have actually seen 260 degrees once on a 100 degree day at the track. Otherwise it stays well below. High normal is 220 ish.

onzedge · 08-25-2013, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

I once knew high oil temps. Since my oil cooler was installed I have actually seen 260 degrees once on a 100 degree day at the track. Otherwise it stays well below. High normal is 220 ish.

Didn't you install the Nissan (Nismo) version or is it someone else I am thinking of?

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SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324198	I don't get worried until my oil temp gets above 240 or so (200-220 seems to be normal). As mentioned above, the car will protect itself when the oil temp gets to 260 or there about. The oil can take up to about 300 F. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma

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Mt Tam I am A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: California Posts: 10,709 Drives: 370Z T/S/N 6MT & XKE Rep Power: 3844	I once knew high oil temps. Since my oil cooler was installed I have actually seen 260 degrees once on a 100 degree day at the track. Otherwise it stays well below. High normal is 220 ish. __________________ "Does the carpet match the drapes? NO!!! I don't date bald women." Nissan Motorsports 34R Oil Cooler. Stillen CBE. Hotchkis Sport Sway Bars. KW Variant 3 Coilover System. Stillen Gen3 CAI. Michelin Pilot Super Sport. Stillen Brake Ducts. Carbotech™ XP10/XP8 Pads. Z1 Front Rotors. Z1 Stainless Brake Lines. Two degrees of camber

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1325 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 287 Drives: 10 370Z BLK 6M Rep Power: 16	I think at 260 degrees F is when it goes into a safe mode automatically, cutting significant power to the engine. I'm considering an oil cooler as I hit 220 with no effort on the highway, at least where I'm at in Florida where temperature and humidity are both always high.

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blueranger Track Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Albuquerque NM Posts: 577 Drives: 2010 Roadster 7AT Rep Power: 307	I would hit 220-240 with spirited driving and once I installed the 25 row cooler I see 190-210 and 220 if I push her hard.

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