Radiator: CSF or Mishimoto?

bushyguy · 02-06-2018, 04:10 PM

Lots of unfortunate news in this thread.

I was intending to install a CSF radiator as I progress the Z build; it's currently sitting in the center of my floor and I have zero intention of installing it after reading these long term reports.

Will probably just punch a whole through the center and get whatever I can for the item's weight in scrap.

I can't intentionally re-sell this thing to someone while fully knowing it may cost them an engine.

At this point it seems the best feature was how it looked coming out of the box

, what a damn shame.

Time to start shopping for a vented hood.

shadow85 · 02-06-2018, 05:01 PM

Well lets hope Koyo can bring out something decent.

synolimit · 02-07-2018, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by YzGyz

I called a few local radiator shop. Some only buy sell, others repair or make special to order needs. When I mentioned that it was a aluminum rad and leaking where the end tank and fins connect, the owners all said, "sorry, can't fix that. I can get you a new one though." He explained to me that the end tank connection and the fines metal are to different in thickness. The fines will melt to a blob before you get penetration on the weld on the tank side. The shops that do repair them use epoxy and that is just a band aid. It will fail and you don't know the time frame. Two of the many shops I called said the exact same thing. So yes, it sucks that the CSF failed. Cost me good time and $ but it was nice when it worked. Just not worth the $700+ in material and labor IMO.

YzGyz

Durafix?

YzGyz · 02-09-2018, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

Durafix?

I really don't know what product some people use to fix the rad. All I konw is that I'm bitter over the whole thing. $500 for the rad, $100 to get my Freon evacuated and recharged (x2 so $200, first CSF install now the oem), tow fee (lucky my insurance has tow service for $50 or something like that), time stranded (priceless), and time wrenching (probably 2-3 hours the first time and 2 hours the second time).

All I'm going to say is stick to OEM, and pass on the CSF. You should not have that many issues on a product marketed as professional and sold at that price.

YzGyz

shadow85 · 03-12-2018, 12:18 AM

Does the misho have manyleaking issues like the csf?

jwick · 03-12-2018, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shadow85

Does the misho have manyleaking issues like the csf?

All Mishimoto products are crap

shadow85 · 03-14-2018, 09:42 PM

even the mishi oil coolers and trans coolers?

jwick · 03-14-2018, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by shadow85

even the mishi oil coolers and trans coolers?

My tuner has a pile of their failed parts in the corner. We joke that friends don’t let friends put Mishimoto parts on their car.

sirnixalot · 07-27-2018, 07:54 AM

Well Koyo has finally released it but it's competition only, AKA no AC condenser......

Koyorad Racing - News and Updates

Chuck33079 · 07-27-2018, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirnixalot

Well Koyo has finally released it but it's competition only, AKA no AC condenser......

Koyorad Racing - News and Updates

Nice. Hopefully they make one with a condenser next.

jwick · 07-27-2018, 09:04 AM

Wonder if you could use the factory condenser?

hc_416 · 07-27-2018, 07:23 PM

well, I have to add myself to the list. I was doing some spirited driving on my way to the beach and..... there goes all my fluid.... I did have it for three to four years. I now need a replacement and really don't know were to turn >.<. Is there any were we can turn? I really don't feel good about using another one of there products after this one leaked, and all the comments on the same thing happening to others.

sirnixalot · 07-28-2018, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by hc_416

well, I have to add myself to the list. I was doing some spirited driving on my way to the beach and..... there goes all my fluid.... I did have it for three to four years. I now need a replacement and really don't know were to turn >.<. Is there any were we can turn? I really don't feel good about using another one of there products after this one leaked, and all the comments on the same thing happening to others.

keep the CFS condenser and have a shop weld mounting points to the Koyo?

jwick · 07-28-2018, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirnixalot

keep the CFS condenser and have a shop weld mounting points to the Koyo?

That’s my thought. I’m ok with a little loss in efficiency. **** I have an intercooler in front of my radiator and I’ve still not had any issues even in Houston heat.

Mr.Squeeze · 07-28-2018, 11:25 AM

Crazy to see that CSF radiator are still leaking just terrible.

02-06-2018, 04:10 PM	#226 (permalink)
bushyguy Base Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paso Robles, CA Posts: 48 Drives: 2011, Blue, MT, 370z Rep Power: 9	Lots of unfortunate news in this thread. I was intending to install a CSF radiator as I progress the Z build; it's currently sitting in the center of my floor and I have zero intention of installing it after reading these long term reports. Will probably just punch a whole through the center and get whatever I can for the item's weight in scrap. I can't intentionally re-sell this thing to someone while fully knowing it may cost them an engine. At this point it seems the best feature was how it looked coming out of the box , what a damn shame. Time to start shopping for a vented hood. Last edited by bushyguy; 02-06-2018 at 04:12 PM.

02-06-2018, 05:01 PM	#227 (permalink)
shadow85 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: South Australia, Austra Posts: 915 Drives: 15' 370Z A/T AMM TT Rep Power: 24	Well lets hope Koyo can bring out something decent. bushyguy likes this.

07-27-2018, 07:54 AM	#234 (permalink)
sirnixalot Track Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Cayman Islands Posts: 685 Drives: 2010 370Z Rep Power: 57453	Well Koyo has finally released it but it's competition only, AKA no AC condenser...... Koyorad Racing - News and Updates __________________ 2010 Sport - LS3 swap loading 2012 Frontier - BTWTuning VK56DE swap

07-27-2018, 09:04 AM	#236 (permalink)
jwick A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 14,532 Drives: '10 G37 6MT Rep Power: 2465056	Wonder if you could use the factory condenser? Hotrodz likes this. __________________ '10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build

07-28-2018, 11:25 AM	#240 (permalink)
Mr.Squeeze A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Keystone state Posts: 1,209 Drives: 2010 370z Rep Power: 20152	Crazy to see that CSF radiator are still leaking just terrible. __________________ Driven Motorsports Single Turbo 7675 T4 1.32 A/R 995WHP 780TQ

03-12-2018, 12:18 AM	#230 (permalink)
shadow85 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: South Australia, Austra Posts: 915 Drives: 15' 370Z A/T AMM TT Rep Power: 24	Does the misho have manyleaking issues like the csf?

03-14-2018, 09:42 PM	#232 (permalink)
shadow85 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: South Australia, Austra Posts: 915 Drives: 15' 370Z A/T AMM TT Rep Power: 24	even the mishi oil coolers and trans coolers?

07-27-2018, 07:23 PM	#237 (permalink)
hc_416 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: CT Posts: 254 Drives: g37 Rep Power: 11	well, I have to add myself to the list. I was doing some spirited driving on my way to the beach and..... there goes all my fluid.... I did have it for three to four years. I now need a replacement and really don't know were to turn >.<. Is there any were we can turn? I really don't feel good about using another one of there products after this one leaked, and all the comments on the same thing happening to others.

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