Nissan 370Z Forum  

My Z is dead 60 miles after a clutch replacement

Originally Posted by GaleForce He's not the first Z to have an oil cooler installed this way. Do you think we will be seeing more failures like this? It would

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain


Like Tree17Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-24-2013, 02:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: west
Posts: 443
Drives: 2012 370z man. sport
Rep Power: 15
gsxr750 will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GaleForce View Post
He's not the first Z to have an oil cooler installed this way. Do you think we will be seeing more failures like this?
It would be hard to apply enough torque on a oil filter to snap the alloy casting, the mechanic woud have to have been a complete idiot and the oil filter installed would show signs of distortion.

Usually when you over tighten a oil filter, the hex head edges will easily round off.

All odds are that the dealer will blame the problem on the installed adapter and deny any kind of waranty service.
gsxr750 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2013, 03:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Wonka2581's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 3,083
Drives: MY WIFE CRAZY....
Rep Power: 2613
Wonka2581 has a reputation beyond reputeWonka2581 has a reputation beyond reputeWonka2581 has a reputation beyond reputeWonka2581 has a reputation beyond reputeWonka2581 has a reputation beyond reputeWonka2581 has a reputation beyond reputeWonka2581 has a reputation beyond reputeWonka2581 has a reputation beyond reputeWonka2581 has a reputation beyond reputeWonka2581 has a reputation beyond reputeWonka2581 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

PLZ keep us posted on what the dealer does....... Sorry to see this........
DEpointfive0 likes this.
Wonka2581 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2013, 06:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
Base Member
 
redline727's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: RVA
Posts: 203
Drives: '13 MUSTANG GT 6MT
Rep Power: 15
redline727 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gsxr750 View Post
It would be hard to apply enough torque on a oil filter to snap the alloy casting, the mechanic woud have to have been a complete idiot and the oil filter installed would show signs of distortion.

Usually when you over tighten a oil filter, the hex head edges will easily round off.

All odds are that the dealer will blame the problem on the installed adapter and deny any kind of waranty service.
But the dealer installed the adapter bc they sold him the oil cooler. What is weird is the tech must have just barely over torqued to stretch the aluminum just enough for it to have the tinniest stress crack for it to last over a year of the aluminum expanding an contracting going from hot to cold. I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner. That's probably what the dealership is thinking. Especially if they don't service the car they may say to the OP that it could have been done by who ever does the oil changes maybe when the filter was off somebody checked the sandwich plate for tightness and put a turn on it trying to be pro active making sure the seal was good and if the upper pan was still a little hot, bam there is your stresser on the upper pan.

OP you said they did a rear main seal when your clutch was done. Did they do an oil change to??? Maybe that's how this happened. Bc I doubt over torquing from a year ago would have lasted this long.
__________________
2013 Ford Mustang GT 5.0 6MT
ROUSH intake | ROUSH axle back | ROUSH shift knob | ROUSH coil covers
2009 NISSAN 370Z SOLD

Last edited by redline727; 01-24-2013 at 06:35 AM.
redline727 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2013, 06:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Rusty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky
Age: 70
Posts: 35,571
Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M
Rep Power: 2684440
Rusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond repute
Wink

Quote:
Originally Posted by gsxr750 View Post
It would be hard to apply enough torque on a oil filter to snap the alloy casting, the mechanic woud have to have been a complete idiot and the oil filter installed would show signs of distortion.

Usually when you over tighten a oil filter, the hex head edges will easily round off.

All odds are that the dealer will blame the problem on the installed adapter and deny any kind of waranty service.
It's not the oil filter that was over tighten. But the adapter nut that holds the adapter plate in place that was over tighten. If you ever installed an oil cooler. You would know on what I'm talking about.
GaleForce likes this.
__________________

浪人 - 殺し屋
"The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only"
http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html
Rusty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 09:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Nissanboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: H-Town
Posts: 378
Drives: Too slow
Rep Power: 16
Nissanboy is on a distinguished road
Default

30k here, no issues
Nissanboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 10:40 PM   #6 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
GaleForce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 21,749
Drives: Varis Arising II
Rep Power: 51866
GaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Pulled a couple of sheets from the service manual for interest sake,

Torque spec for the oil filter,



Exploded view of the upper oil pan,

__________________
GaleForce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2013, 05:07 PM   #7 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
GaleForce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 21,749
Drives: Varis Arising II
Rep Power: 51866
GaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Glad to hear the dealer is taking care of this. Are they also reinstalling the oil cooler?
__________________
GaleForce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2013, 05:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
houkouonchi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Ontario, California
Posts: 440
Drives: '14 GT-R '10 M6 370z
Rep Power: 16
houkouonchi has a spectacular aura abouthoukouonchi has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GaleForce View Post
Glad to hear the dealer is taking care of this. Are they also reinstalling the oil cooler?
They better be. They did not say that they weren't going to re-attach it and from talking to them the oil-cooler is not damaged just the oil pan is.
houkouonchi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2013, 06:04 PM   #9 (permalink)
Administrator
 
Trips's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Disneyland
Posts: 8,736
Drives: 🔰
Rep Power: 10
Trips has a reputation beyond reputeTrips has a reputation beyond reputeTrips has a reputation beyond reputeTrips has a reputation beyond reputeTrips has a reputation beyond reputeTrips has a reputation beyond reputeTrips has a reputation beyond reputeTrips has a reputation beyond reputeTrips has a reputation beyond reputeTrips has a reputation beyond reputeTrips has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Great to hear
Trips is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2013, 09:34 PM   #10 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
houkouonchi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Ontario, California
Posts: 440
Drives: '14 GT-R '10 M6 370z
Rep Power: 16
houkouonchi has a spectacular aura abouthoukouonchi has a spectacular aura about
Default

Finally got the car back. Kind of a bad smell coming from the engine area. I think its because it was not completely cleaned. The bill ended up being $1200 (which they covered). Apparently you gotta replace valves and other **** when you replace the top oil pan (according to them).
houkouonchi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2013, 09:58 PM   #11 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
GaleForce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 21,749
Drives: Varis Arising II
Rep Power: 51866
GaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond reputeGaleForce has a reputation beyond repute
Default

$1200 isn't too bad. Glad you're back on the road.
__________________
GaleForce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2013, 10:13 PM   #12 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Montclair
Posts: 68
Drives: 2009 370 Z Silver
Rep Power: 14
matcop will become famous soon enough
Default

Sorry to here about the nightmare of a mess. I know nothing about Riverside Nissan but I can tell you that Scott at Fontana Nissan in parts know his stuff. Ask for Gus the service advisor (really cool guy) These guys are heavily into modified Nissans and other cars.

They really take care of you.

I didn't know any of them. Bought my Nissan used from Car Max. I had a check engine light and I was an hour away. Gus got me in and checked out in bout 5 minutes.

I do my homework and have taken my car there for most of my things.

The only other place I can vouch for is Specialty Z. Sebastian is the man. He knows his stuff !
matcop is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
REQUEST: DIY Clutch Fluid bleed/swap/replacement. Footloose301 DIY Section (Do-It-Yourself) 35 01-16-2017 12:20 PM
Clutch & Flywheel replacement djtodd DIY Section (Do-It-Yourself) 2 10-15-2012 07:57 PM
[FOR SALE] RJM Clutch Pedal Replacement BNIB C09 Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 7 07-15-2012 10:23 AM
2nd Drive Shaft Replacement at 10K Miles chemi19 Engine & Drivetrain 13 07-31-2011 04:46 AM
My car needs a new clutch?! 9500 miles!!!??? crystalline Engine & Drivetrain 10 06-17-2011 12:58 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2