Everyone with oil temp issues

Zeto · 06-28-2009, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by wstar

As far as anyone knows (unless you've just heard about something new) there's only one cooler from Nissan (and it's a Nismo, part # 21300-SS370), which is $750-ish+ depending on the markup at whoever you buy it from, has a larger Setrab core than the 19-row we've seen in some other kits, but no thermo plate.

Is not having a thermo plate bad?

wstar · 06-28-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeto

Is not having a thermo plate bad?

It's not strictly necessary in warmer climates, where a cooler is most useful anyways, but for the cost of the Nismo unit I would've expected one. The non-thermo plate always flows all of your oil through the cooler. The thermo one blocks off the cooler when the oil is cold, and gradually opens up the path to the cooler as the temps rise (should be fully open at 180 I believe on most we've seen for this car). Without a thermo plate, you really need to wait for the oil to warm up a bit before you use the engine too hard (pushing way high PSI cold oil through the cooler isn't great for it or the fittings), and it will take longer to warm up than stock because the cooler doesn't help with that. In a colder climate I'd say it's pretty essential, but I want one even here in TX so I don't have to wait forever on warmup.

Modshack · 06-28-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar

It's not strictly necessary in warmer climates, where a cooler is most useful anyways, but for the cost of the Nismo unit I would've expected one. The non-thermo plate always flows all of your oil through the cooler. The thermo one blocks off the cooler when the oil is cold, and gradually opens up the path to the cooler as the temps rise (should be fully open at 180 I believe on most we've seen for this car). Without a thermo plate, you really need to wait for the oil to warm up a bit before you use the engine too hard (pushing way high PSI cold oil through the cooler isn't great for it or the fittings), and it will take longer to warm up than stock because the cooler doesn't help with that. In a colder climate I'd say it's pretty essential, but I want one even here in TX so I don't have to wait forever on warmup.

My last install was sans Thermo plate but I live in Hot NC. On cold days, the time to bring the oil up to temp was "iffy". I went with the thermostatic plate on my 370 install for that reason. It was the most expensive part in the set-up, but total stilll came to a good deal less than the kits on the market..It's easy to piece together a set-up.

JvKintheUSA · 06-30-2009, 05:57 PM

Love to find out if/when the dealerships will be able to order & install the oil cooler. I'd love to add it onto mine. I think it's a sure bet it will be added to next year's model.

ADmaster71690 · 06-30-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JvKintheUSA

Love to find out if/when the dealerships will be able to order & install the oil cooler. I'd love to add it onto mine. I think it's a sure bet it will be added to next year's model.

If they add the oil cooler to next year's model they will essentially be admitting that the 2009's are flawed... and thus will likely have to retrofit all the '09s with oil coolers.

Thats why I don't expect to see the 2010 sporting an oil cooler. Though someone else on this forum mentioned a quicker, easier (though less effective) approach to cooling the oil. Something along those lines is what I would expect... not a outright admittance that the Z needs a cooler, but a slight remedy.

For all the owners who do have oil temperature problems, do you think I would be plagued by this up in Michigan? It seems like most of you live in hotter climates (i.e. Texas, Arizona, Florida).

JvKintheUSA · 06-30-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ADmaster71690

If they add the oil cooler to next year's model they will essentially be admitting that the 2009's are flawed... and thus will likely have to retrofit all the '09s with oil coolers.

Thats why I don't expect to see the 2010 sporting an oil cooler. Though someone else on this forum mentioned a quicker, easier (though less effective) approach to cooling the oil. Something along those lines is what I would expect... not a outright admittance that the Z needs a cooler, but a slight remedy.

For all the owners who do have oil temperature problems, do you think I would be plagued by this up in Michigan? It seems like most of you live in hotter climates (i.e. Texas, Arizona, Florida).

You could be right there. I live in Ohio and had the car for three weeks now and have not experienced any overheating issues. But then I have not driven the car very hard yet. Within the next few weeks I will be going to the dealer to get synthetic oil put in, That should help providing better protection.

bluzman · 07-01-2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JvKintheUSA

You could be right there. I live in Ohio and had the car for three weeks now and have not experienced any overheating issues. But then I have not driven the car very hard yet. Within the next few weeks I will be going to the dealer to get synthetic oil put in, That should help providing better protection.

No flame intended but AFAIK almost no one has experienced overheating issues. I've yet to read a post or review that says that someone has experienced the dreaded "limp" mode unless the car was being tracked. Just sayin'...

antennahead · 07-01-2009, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bluzman

No flame intended but AFAIK almost no one has experienced overheating issues. I've yet to read a post or review that says that someone has experienced the dreaded "limp" mode unless the car was being tracked. Just sayin'...

No flame back at ya, but most concerned with the hi temps are less worried about hitting limp mode, but are concerned with extended time periods of 260 to 280 degree operation. To say "no one has experienced overheating issues" is to say overheating doesn't occur until limp mode and 300 degrees. There hasn't been a definitive answer from Nissan, nor another expert that I know of, as to whether running at these temps (260 to 280) for a long time period will contribute to shorter engine life.

John

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JvKintheUSA Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canton, GA Posts: 465 Drives: 2013 Shelby GT500 Rep Power: 429	Love to find out if/when the dealerships will be able to order & install the oil cooler. I'd love to add it onto mine. I think it's a sure bet it will be added to next year's model.