Sticky: (Official) 370Z Clutch Pressure (CSC) Failures

JARblue · 06-29-2015, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KoolKarmaJoe

Z1 description from their site....."this conversion kit serves a very narrow window & requires ongoing adjustments". Some on forum say they got to get car on ramps and adjust every 2nd fill-up. There's only so many adjustments that can be made in reality . Sooner or later you've used up all adjustment options. I can go through 2 fillups just trying to get to my vacation destination. I don't have room to carry ramps.

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I'd be interested to see a link to someone on this forum saying it requires adjustments every 2nd fill up. Because that is bogus. Or maybe their kit was installed by a monkey

The adjustment is needed as the clutch plate wears down. It is minor and needed very infrequently. I made a 1/2 turn adjustment (smallest you can make) after ~12K miles. There's no way you will run out of adjustments before needing to replace the clutch.

eastwest2300 · 06-29-2015, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I'd be interested to see a link to someone on this forum saying it requires adjustments every 2nd fill up. Because that is bogus. Or maybe their kit was installed by a monkey

The adjustment is needed as the clutch plate wears down. It is minor and needed very infrequently. I made a 1/2 turn adjustment (smallest you can make) after ~12K miles. There's no way you will run out of adjustments before needing to replace the clutch.

a monkey? really?

KoolKarmaJoe · 06-29-2015, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I'd be interested to see a link to someone on this forum saying it requires adjustments every 2nd fill up. Because that is bogus. Or maybe their kit was installed by a monkey

The adjustment is needed as the clutch plate wears down. It is minor and needed very infrequently. I made a 1/2 turn adjustment (smallest you can make) after ~12K miles. There's no way you will run out of adjustments before needing to replace the clutch.

Read their site - " A very narrow window... unit requires adjustments..." That's Z1's words! Unless they updated their website . Part looks bulky; like to see how it fits with twin Turbo kit!

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a monkey? really?

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JARblue · 06-29-2015, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by KoolKarmaJoe

Read their site - " A very narrow window... unit requires adjustments..." That's Z1's words! Unless they updated their website . Part looks bulky; like to see how it fits with twin Turbo kit!

I'm not sure you read my post correctly; I wasn't talking about Z1's quote

I was referring to your claim that "some on forum say they got to get car on ramps and adjust every 2nd fill-up". Where did you see this?

I cannot say how it would work with the various forced induction options, but Z1 might be able to give some guidance.

KoolKarmaJoe · 06-29-2015, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I'm not sure you read my post correctly; I wasn't talking about Z1's quote

I was referring to your claim that "some on forum say they got to get car on ramps and adjust every 2nd fill-up". Where did you see this?

I cannot say how it would work with the various forced induction options, but Z1 might be able to give some guidance.

read it on The370ZForum when I first looked through the forum for help with my clutch issues and a member posted his experience with the CSC slave elimination kit. That didn't turn me off of the product though. What turned me off the product was the last paragraph from sellers Site when you view the slave elimination kit; ""Strongly Recommended: Please view a complete copy of the Installation Manual for the __ Motorsports Concentric Slave Cylinder Elimination Kit, PDF Installation Manual document available for download Here. Proper installation and adjustment of this kit will require end-user mechanical aptitude. Because of the very narrow window in which this product was designed to function as a bolt on solution, this product may require adjustment through the life of the clutch." -

JARblue · 06-29-2015, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KoolKarmaJoe

Some on forum say they got to get car on ramps and adjust every 2nd fill-up.

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I'd be interested to see a link to someone on this forum saying it requires adjustments every 2nd fill up. Because that is bogus.

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Originally Posted by KoolKarmaJoe

read it on The370ZForum when I first looked through the forum for help with my clutch issues and a member posted his experience with the CSC slave elimination kit.

WHERE DID YOU READ THIS? I was asking for a link to their post because they are spreading misinformation

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Originally Posted by KoolKarmaJoe

That didn't turn me off of the product though. What turned me off the product was the last paragraph from sellers Site when you view the slave elimination kit; ""Strongly Recommended: Please view a complete copy of the Installation Manual for the __ Motorsports Concentric Slave Cylinder Elimination Kit, PDF Installation Manual document available for download Here. Proper installation and adjustment of this kit will require end-user mechanical aptitude. Because of the very narrow window in which this product was designed to function as a bolt on solution, this product may require adjustment through the life of the clutch." -

That is just a standard disclaimer. The slave elimination kit functions in a very narrow window because the cylinder length is static once installed. Removing one bolt/nut and loosening two nuts allows you to extend the cylinder as needed to account for clutch wear. The clutch wear limit is only a few millimeters, so that is all you will be adjusting it over the life of the clutch. I won't profess to know exactly how much one turn extends the cylinder, but if a 1/2 turn is all that is needed every 10-12K miles (based on my personal experience) then my guess is that one turn adjusts the cylinder length about half a millimeter.

The process of the adjustment is quite simple. If you can get the car on jack stands and can use a wrench, you have enough mechanical aptitude to do the adjustment. The fact that you are all hung up on the generic Z1 disclaimer language and not on the fact that someone said it has to be adjusted every other time you fill up with gas (which is just flat out stupid) would leave me to believe that you have ulterior motives

I'm not suggesting this is the case; I am just telling you that is the impression that you are giving

KoolKarmaJoe · 06-29-2015, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I'm not sure you read my post correctly; I wasn't talking about Z1's quote

I was referring to your claim that "some on forum say they got to get car on ramps and adjust every 2nd fill-up". Where did you see this?

I cannot say how it would work with the various forced induction options, but Z1 might be able to give some guidance.

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Originally Posted by JARblue

WHERE DID YOU READ THIS? I was asking for a link to their post because they are spreading misinformation

That is just a standard disclaimer. The slave elimination kit functions in a very narrow window because the cylinder length is static once installed. Removing one bolt/nut and loosening two nuts allows you to extend the cylinder as needed to account for clutch wear. The clutch wear limit is only a few millimeters, so that is all you will be adjusting it over the life of the clutch. I won't profess to know exactly how much one turn extends the cylinder, but if a 1/2 turn is all that is needed every 10-12K miles (based on my personal experience) then my guess is that one turn adjusts the cylinder length about half a millimeter.

The process of the adjustment is quite simple. If you can get the car on jack stands and can use a wrench, you have enough mechanical aptitude to do the adjustment. The fact that you are all hung up on the generic Z1 disclaimer language and not on the fact that someone said it has to be adjusted every other time you fill up with gas (which is just flat out stupid) would leave me to believe that you have ulterior motives

I'm not suggesting this is the case; I am just telling you that is the impression that you are giving

I'll look here & also on the350z forum since i readbot as well as go through saved PM's.. I will also check out Z1 PDF for more info as well as their info on 1 how to adjust, 2 how often to adjust 3 what a symptoms of need to adjust. 4 Fitment with turbos.... How often did you say you adjust yours? Posts your steps of adjustments as well as pics. I seem to recall someone on this forum stating they put pics of adjusting the Elimination unit. Was that you? Where can o find the pics?

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