Traction Controll Completely Off?

1slow370 · 05-31-2012, 06:22 AM

put a momentary interrupt button in the center console connected to the power wire of the yaw sensor by the shifter once power is cut to it the ecu alarms and shuts off the ENTIRE traction control system including the electronic differential braking(not the abs this is supposed to turn an open diff into a locker by braking the wheel with less traction). order just disconnect the yaw sensor. to kill the abs you need to put a switch in by the brake sensor(note not the one for the cruise control) if you don't want to pull fuses. the motor has an anti-toyota feature in which if you push the brake and gas at the same time it shuts off the motor so this switch is for burnouts. with both switches just turn off the car and turn it back on and everything should clear.

Shamu · 05-31-2012, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

put a momentary interrupt button in the center console connected to the power wire of the yaw sensor by the shifter once power is cut to it the ecu alarms and shuts off the ENTIRE traction control system including the electronic differential braking(not the abs this is supposed to turn an open diff into a locker by braking the wheel with less traction). order just disconnect the yaw sensor. to kill the abs you need to put a switch in by the brake sensor(note not the one for the cruise control) if you don't want to pull fuses. the motor has an anti-toyota feature in which if you push the brake and gas at the same time it shuts off the motor so this switch is for burnouts. with both switches just turn off the car and turn it back on and everything should clear.

Do nismos have differnt system? My car spins wheels to oblivian with VCD switched off? In fact for AX I'd love to have ABLS as it would help control my power oversteer. ...or Maybe becuase I have supercharged car its overpowering ABLS?

Anyone truly educated in our cars systems? I know wwhen my car was naturally aspirated I only ran with ABS and VCD fuses pulled so never had intrustion. We fixed abs ice mode after I installed supercharger so I dont notice any thing.

Z1NONLY · 05-31-2012, 05:17 PM

I have tracked two Nismo 370Z and don't remember any issues with the VDC jumping in after being deactivated.

-And I got one of those Nismo's rather out of shape.

ChrisSlicks · 05-31-2012, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamu

Do nismos have differnt system? My car spins wheels to oblivian with VCD switched off? In fact for AX I'd love to have ABLS as it would help control my power oversteer. ...or Maybe becuase I have supercharged car its overpowering ABLS?

ABLS doesn't prevent wheelspin if both rear wheels are spinning at the same rate. It prevents inside wheel spin if one rear wheel is spinning excessively faster than the outside rear wheel. In a Sport or a Nismo this is pretty much only going to happen when turning with the outside rear planted but loaded, and with enough suspension travel such that the inside wheel is light.

In auto-x and track driving you should almost never see ABLS intervene, and even if it did you probably wouldn't notice. It won't prevent you spinning out if you are mashing the gas with VDC off. It is an issue for track drifting since you need maximum wheel spin, but in all other track cases it is a non-issue.

scottIN · 05-31-2012, 07:33 PM

A buddy of mine that likes to drive...uh...a bit aggressively was driving my car. Got it sideways through an intersection & VDC kicked in. He asked me "Where's the button to turn the traction control off?" My answer..."Oh, it's in the trunk."

1slow370 · 06-01-2012, 02:54 AM

the nismo abs and vdc is the same. yeah if ur putting down 400hp+ ur not gonna notice it. the only way you really do notice it is when you have vdc off and the slip light flashes for a second.the second level of traction control is very non intrusive so most people don't know its there until the light flashes at them. i find it only works at high rates of speed when the rear starts walking out exiting a corner.

Joepro · 10-03-2012, 10:14 PM

reviving with my experience, whether abls or what not, some form of system is still active, this does pev me off a bit about the 370 vs the 350z. Turn off the 350's vdc and it was play time, the 370, nope, grabbed second gear in a rolling burn out and bam, it held the car a 5k and braked the wheels until I pushed the clutch in. NO FUN NISSAN.

Ajobie · 10-04-2012, 05:19 AM

This was one of the first things I noticed once I started to play around with my Z. I did a lot of experimenting to see if I could find some way to disable it. I'm not sure if this trick works or I'm doing something else different, but turning off my synchro rev match seems to help. I doubt this is the case, but honestly at this point, I just don't know.

ChrisSlicks · 10-04-2012, 06:45 AM

For you tire shredding burnout kinds just disable it. The controller is under the center console next to the e-brake.

kenny's 370z · 10-04-2012, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

For you tire shredding burnout kinds just disable it. The controller is under the center console next to the e-brake.

mine is unplugged and is staying that way.too much of the ecu's involvement when i dont want it to be.

nismo09 · 10-04-2012, 08:27 PM

I have driven many 30 minute sessions (204 so far) with TC off and never had the yellow light come on. Never had a problem with this. I have an 09. Seems strange.

ChrisSlicks · 10-04-2012, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nismo09

I have driven many 30 minute sessions (204 so far) with TC off and never had the yellow light come on. Never had a problem with this. I have an 09. Seems strange.

It's not a problem on track at all, never has been for me either. ABLS only kicks in when there is a massively wheel speed differential between front and rear or rear to rear, so basically drifting, burnouts etc. I'm not into that stuff myself since I like my very expensive rubber

You're also more likely to get it in an open diff car vs a LSD Sport/Nismo.

Q8y_drifter · 10-06-2012, 06:47 AM

ABLS does intrude when drifting especially in 2nd gear when the rear wheel speed is far greater than the front. Both my friend (350Z) and I (G sedan) have felt it. It feels just like ABS pulsating separate corners at a time. It doesn't stop the car completely but it does affect the way it drives and acts in a drift. It's more like a stability control than anything else. We both have LSDs. Below is a pic from our last session.

jinkang612 · 11-10-2012, 07:26 PM

i drift my 09 370z 6spd mt you need to unplug the box in the center councel and thats it... it was a pain in the a$$ to figure it out we pulled fuses cut wires bla bla bla and that light kept going on and we ended up going to our friends shop Deeps Garage and he said pretty much that even if you turn the VDC off it never completly turns off it will cause the rear to apply slight amount of brake pressure to your rear the switch on the brake and throtle causes your car to shut off so you cant do a simple burnout. just unplug that center box located in the center councle were your E-brake is and unplug. if you want to get fancy get a switch made for you so you can pretty much turn it off COMPLETLY !!!!!!!!!!!! hahaha if you need anymore info hit me up

34ST · 11-15-2012, 12:53 PM

All u need to do is to cut in the on/off switch to yaw rate sensor. This will make your VDC completely off, but your VDC and SLIP light stays on though.

05-31-2012, 06:22 AM	#61 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7250	put a momentary interrupt button in the center console connected to the power wire of the yaw sensor by the shifter once power is cut to it the ecu alarms and shuts off the ENTIRE traction control system including the electronic differential braking(not the abs this is supposed to turn an open diff into a locker by braking the wheel with less traction). order just disconnect the yaw sensor. to kill the abs you need to put a switch in by the brake sensor(note not the one for the cruise control) if you don't want to pull fuses. the motor has an anti-toyota feature in which if you push the brake and gas at the same time it shuts off the motor so this switch is for burnouts. with both switches just turn off the car and turn it back on and everything should clear. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50 Last edited by 1slow370; 05-31-2012 at 06:25 AM.

05-31-2012, 07:33 PM	#65 (permalink)
scottIN Track Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New Castle, Indiana Posts: 764 Drives: '12 370Z Rep Power: 54	A buddy of mine that likes to drive...uh...a bit aggressively was driving my car. Got it sideways through an intersection & VDC kicked in. He asked me "Where's the button to turn the traction control off?" My answer..."Oh, it's in the trunk." TrimdogZ and SouthArk370Z like this.

06-01-2012, 02:54 AM	#66 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7250	the nismo abs and vdc is the same. yeah if ur putting down 400hp+ ur not gonna notice it. the only way you really do notice it is when you have vdc off and the slip light flashes for a second.the second level of traction control is very non intrusive so most people don't know its there until the light flashes at them. i find it only works at high rates of speed when the rear starts walking out exiting a corner. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

10-03-2012, 10:14 PM	#67 (permalink)
Joepro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Athens ohio Posts: 1,213 Drives: Company car Rep Power: 33	reviving with my experience, whether abls or what not, some form of system is still active, this does pev me off a bit about the 370 vs the 350z. Turn off the 350's vdc and it was play time, the 370, nope, grabbed second gear in a rolling burn out and bam, it held the car a 5k and braked the wheels until I pushed the clutch in. NO FUN NISSAN. __________________ Swift\|Koni\|SPC\| FI CBE\|Z1\|Stillen\|Sbend\|Zspeed\|R/T Tuned\|523 whp\|458 tq\|10.5 psi\|SOLD Joepro's Journal\|Joepro's Boosted Performance Build \|Pittsburgh-Western-Pa-Ohio-Wv-Group

10-04-2012, 05:19 AM	#68 (permalink)
Ajobie Base Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: new mexico Posts: 47 Drives: it like it's stolen Rep Power: 12	This was one of the first things I noticed once I started to play around with my Z. I did a lot of experimenting to see if I could find some way to disable it. I'm not sure if this trick works or I'm doing something else different, but turning off my synchro rev match seems to help. I doubt this is the case, but honestly at this point, I just don't know. __________________ 2010 Platinum Graphite Roadster 6mt sport package W/Navi Mods: Invidia Gemini cat back exhaust, CNT racing HFC, Billit 3" CF thort stubby antenna, XIX X15 wheels 20x8.5 front 20x10.0 rear

05-31-2012, 05:17 PM	#63 (permalink)
Z1NONLY Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: SW Florida Posts: 355 Drives: 16 FR-S Rep Power: 39	I have tracked two Nismo 370Z and don't remember any issues with the VDC jumping in after being deactivated. -And I got one of those Nismo's rather out of shape.

10-04-2012, 06:45 AM	#69 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	For you tire shredding burnout kinds just disable it. The controller is under the center console next to the e-brake. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

10-04-2012, 08:27 PM	#71 (permalink)
nismo09 Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Austin Posts: 159 Drives: 09 Nismo Rep Power: 15	I have driven many 30 minute sessions (204 so far) with TC off and never had the yellow light come on. Never had a problem with this. I have an 09. Seems strange.

10-06-2012, 06:47 AM	#73 (permalink)
Q8y_drifter Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 306 Drives: 08 Infiniti G35 5AT Rep Power: 15	ABLS does intrude when drifting especially in 2nd gear when the rear wheel speed is far greater than the front. Both my friend (350Z) and I (G sedan) have felt it. It feels just like ABS pulsating separate corners at a time. It doesn't stop the car completely but it does affect the way it drives and acts in a drift. It's more like a stability control than anything else. We both have LSDs. Below is a pic from our last session. __________________ 08 G35 5AT Sedan \| Stillen CBE \| Invidia HFC \| Injen CAI \| Uprev Tune \| Akebono BBK \| Tanabe Coilovers \| Hotchkis Sway Bars \| GTSpec FSB \| Black Headlights & Grille \| Volk GT-F Wheels \| Hankook V12 Evo Tires

11-10-2012, 07:26 PM	#74 (permalink)
jinkang612 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: san diego Age: 35 Posts: 125 Drives: 2009 nissan 370z Rep Power: 13	yea i kinda know what you guys are talking about... i drift my 09 370z 6spd mt you need to unplug the box in the center councel and thats it... it was a pain in the a$$ to figure it out we pulled fuses cut wires bla bla bla and that light kept going on and we ended up going to our friends shop Deeps Garage and he said pretty much that even if you turn the VDC off it never completly turns off it will cause the rear to apply slight amount of brake pressure to your rear the switch on the brake and throtle causes your car to shut off so you cant do a simple burnout. just unplug that center box located in the center councle were your E-brake is and unplug. if you want to get fancy get a switch made for you so you can pretty much turn it off COMPLETLY !!!!!!!!!!!! hahaha if you need anymore info hit me up

11-15-2012, 12:53 PM	#75 (permalink)
34ST Base Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: California Posts: 49 Drives: 370Z 6M Rep Power: 12	All u need to do is to cut in the on/off switch to yaw rate sensor. This will make your VDC completely off, but your VDC and SLIP light stays on though.

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