P1606

SteveSAS · 02-02-2020, 01:38 AM

Also look at the possibility that this issue is related to the ecutek tune.

I read on another post that someone had to revert back to stock ecu before this error code disappeared.

bunk · 02-02-2020, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveSAS

Also look at the possibility that this issue is related to the ecutek tune.

I read on another post that someone had to revert back to stock ecu before this error code disappeared.

I still have my EcuTek maps ...at least I can scroll through them, but whether or not they corrupt, I couldnt say. The person who had to swap out their ECU probably had a bad ECU?

In my case, Im guessing that I had a faulty relay, either one of them or both, since I ended up replacing both, and a bad module from ebay, and since everything is working as normal now, Im not inclined to swap them out to test them

I was starting to freak out that I may have had a shorted engine harness.

I do have to admit though, that this problem sorta forced me to read the FSM, you kinda pushed me to do that..lol And omg, its a plethora of info if you really read it!

edit: for anybody going through testing the harness, in the FSM, the pinout for the VVEL Module is not the pinout for the harness, its the pinout for the Module. So if youre testing the harness, all the pins are in "mirror", so pin 1 one the harness is the first row, first pin on the RIGHT, etc...just look at pin 14 on the harness and in the FSM, its a blanked out pin, no actual connection, and youll figure it out....it might be pin 26 thats blanked out... youll have to do the research yourself, Im done with reading the FSM for a while now...lol

SteveSAS · 02-02-2020, 09:56 AM

If its working and stays that way for a few days you should be good to go.

If Nissan has one good thing in there cars its the Hitachi modules.

bunk · 02-11-2020, 10:15 PM

For future P1606 people, check the VVEL relay box and connections.

So the code came back, and swapping modules and relays or resetting the ECM didnt work. Fiddled around with the VVEL relay box. When I removed it from the bracket, I noticed that the bottom of the relay box wasnt clipped in properly. This allowed the wire harness alot of play and must have caused bad connection to the connection pins. After I snapped the relay box bottom back, I was able to get the Z started up with no code.

SteveSAS · 02-12-2020, 02:23 AM

I've seem relays cause issues when they are loose in the car and bouncing around. The shock on the relay will cause the contacts to open for a few milliseconds but is enough to trip a error code. Other cases with age the electromagnet isn't strong enough and any little bump with cause it to open. Easy to find by tapping with a large screw driver with car running. Sometimes corroded connector or faulty crimp. could be many other reasons.
No easy way to fix, you just need to keep looking and rule things out.
At least you now know the area where the issue maybe.

bunk · 02-12-2020, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveSAS

I've seem relays cause issues when they are loose in the car and bouncing around. The shock on the relay will cause the contacts to open for a few milliseconds but is enough to trip a error code. Other cases with age the electromagnet isn't strong enough and any little bump with cause it to open. Easy to find by tapping with a large screw driver with car running. Sometimes corroded connector or faulty crimp. could be many other reasons.
No easy way to fix, you just need to keep looking and rule things out.
At least you now know the area where the issue maybe.

How hard do you have to tap on the relay when the engine is running? I tried that yesterday, but maybe I wasnt tapping hard enough. I also tried to push down on the relay.

SouthArk370Z · 02-12-2020, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bunk

How hard do you have to tap on the relay when the engine is running? I tried that yesterday, but maybe I wasnt tapping hard enough. I also tried to push down on the relay.

Depends on where you hit it (parallel or perpendicular to the movable contacts) and how marginal the relay is. You can give them a pretty good whack without doing any damage; they get bounced around quite a bit in normal use.

bunk · 02-12-2020, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Depends on where you hit it (parallel or perpendicular to the movable contacts) and how marginal the relay is. You can give them a pretty good whack without doing any damage; they get bounced around quite a bit in normal use.

Good to know. I was afraid to tap too hard and damage the relay. They werent cheap..lol

SouthArk370Z · 02-12-2020, 11:29 AM

Well, don't go banging on them with a hammer but a good rap with a screwdriver handle should be OK. You just want to simulate what happens when driving, not an asteroid impact.

SteveSAS · 02-12-2020, 04:09 PM

If they are new relays you don't need to check anything.

I was referring to old defective relays.

q45racing · 10-31-2020, 09:49 AM

if had this issue 3 times now the 1st 2 times just bought a used vvel controller off ebay and bam it worked... but this last time it didn't... btw i had an ecutek tune. both times had to put back the stock rom in order for the vvel controller to connect. this last time had to bring her to the dealership and it was the canbus receiver not communicating with any vvel controller i had both old and new. that was July 2020 now here it is Oct 2020 and still on the stock rom, no issues and car runs like a champ but in stock form... kinda wanna put my tune back on and see if it really had anything to do with the vvel controller issue...

xTIMMYxCOREx · 12-16-2021, 02:57 PM

I saw this existing thread and to be honest I’m completely lost. So if anyone could explain it like I’m a 5 year old that would help!

I recently had my 2010 370Z roadster just shut down while driving home. I luckily was able to turn it off and in again and everything was fine.

A week later the check engine light came on.

I’ve always wanted to get an OBD2 reader, though I have zero idea how to interpret its results. So I have a screenshot of what it’s showing me. Can anyways tell me what it means?

Thanks in advance.

AdrianV1201 · 10-02-2022, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by xTIMMYxCOREx

I saw this existing thread and to be honest I’m completely lost. So if anyone could explain it like I’m a 5 year old that would help!

I recently had my 2010 370Z roadster just shut down while driving home. I luckily was able to turn it off and in again and everything was fine.

A week later the check engine light came on.

I’ve always wanted to get an OBD2 reader, though I have zero idea how to interpret its results. So I have a screenshot of what it’s showing me. Can anyways tell me what it means?

Thanks in advance.

Did you ever end up finding a fix or have someone help you figure it out? I have a 2010 370z base coupe and I just had the same issues last night.

02-02-2020, 01:38 AM	#16 (permalink)
SteveSAS Base Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Australia Posts: 61 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 5363	Also look at the possibility that this issue is related to the ecutek tune. I read on another post that someone had to revert back to stock ecu before this error code disappeared. bunk likes this.

02-11-2020, 10:15 PM	#19 (permalink)
bunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Southern California Posts: 4,077 Drives: 2010 370z Roadster Rep Power: 2684369	For future P1606 people, check the VVEL relay box and connections. So the code came back, and swapping modules and relays or resetting the ECM didnt work. Fiddled around with the VVEL relay box. When I removed it from the bracket, I noticed that the bottom of the relay box wasnt clipped in properly. This allowed the wire harness alot of play and must have caused bad connection to the connection pins. After I snapped the relay box bottom back, I was able to get the Z started up with no code. __________________ -Drop in K&N Filter -Invidia Gemini CBE -Z1 Oil Cooler -Swift Springs - EcuTek -Forgestar F14 -SPL Camber Links -Akebono BBK Upgrade -Z1 Premium SS Lines -SPL Diff Bushings -SPL FUCAs - BellRaceworks Diff Brace

02-12-2020, 02:23 AM	#20 (permalink)
SteveSAS Base Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Australia Posts: 61 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 5363	I've seem relays cause issues when they are loose in the car and bouncing around. The shock on the relay will cause the contacts to open for a few milliseconds but is enough to trip a error code. Other cases with age the electromagnet isn't strong enough and any little bump with cause it to open. Easy to find by tapping with a large screw driver with car running. Sometimes corroded connector or faulty crimp. could be many other reasons. No easy way to fix, you just need to keep looking and rule things out. At least you now know the area where the issue maybe. bunk likes this.

02-12-2020, 11:29 AM	#24 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324197	Well, don't go banging on them with a hammer but a good rap with a screwdriver handle should be OK. You just want to simulate what happens when driving, not an asteroid impact. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma

10-31-2020, 09:49 AM	#26 (permalink)
q45racing Base Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Orlando FL Posts: 7 Drives: 2010 370Z Blk Ch 7AT Rep Power: 10	if had this issue 3 times now the 1st 2 times just bought a used vvel controller off ebay and bam it worked... but this last time it didn't... btw i had an ecutek tune. both times had to put back the stock rom in order for the vvel controller to connect. this last time had to bring her to the dealership and it was the canbus receiver not communicating with any vvel controller i had both old and new. that was July 2020 now here it is Oct 2020 and still on the stock rom, no issues and car runs like a champ but in stock form... kinda wanna put my tune back on and see if it really had anything to do with the vvel controller issue... __________________ 2010 SPORT TOURING 370z BLACK CHERRY 7AT / TAKEDA CCA / TOMEI AXEL BACK EXHAUST / OBX RESONATED TEST PIPES / TEIN BASIS / AODHAN GOLD WHEELS / TUNED BY HARRY SANDHU = ECUTEK

02-02-2020, 09:56 AM	#18 (permalink)
SteveSAS Base Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Australia Posts: 61 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 5363	If its working and stays that way for a few days you should be good to go. If Nissan has one good thing in there cars its the Hitachi modules.

02-12-2020, 04:09 PM	#25 (permalink)
SteveSAS Base Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Australia Posts: 61 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 5363	If they are new relays you don't need to check anything. I was referring to old defective relays.

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