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Originally Posted by MotorvateDIY This is a great idea! I will add my results in a few days. If your pressure sensor mounts in a sandwich plate, you are measuring

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Old 11-23-2024, 03:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This is a great idea! I will add my results in a few days.

If your pressure sensor mounts in a sandwich plate, you are measuring the oil pressure going INTO the oil filter. This reading will be higher than the actual engine oil pressure, since it takes some pressure to push the oil through the filter.

If your pressure sensor is mounted in the factory location, you are measuring the oil pressure AFTER the oil filter.

On a future episode MotorvateDIY Garage, we will show how much pressure it takes to push oil through the oil filter.
First and foremost, I would like to sincerely thank you for your youtube videos. The throttle relearn and how to check oil pressure ones have been very helpful. I went down the rabbit hole and was worried that my gallery gaskets might be bad but, after installing an oil pressure gauge, I believe that I'm good. I show 114 at cold start up and 27 after warming up at idle.( I still need to log what it's at at 2K, 3K, etc.) I installed a mini OLED gauge with the fitting in the sandwich plate. You have stated that this will give me a slightly higher reading than actual engine pressure due to it being pre-filter. Do you know approximately how much higher that this would read as my numbers look good but, I am interested in what would be considered low with my set up.

So far I love the OLED as it's less than 1-1/2" squared and easily attaches with Velcro pretty much anywhere!!

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Do you know approximately how much higher that this would read as my numbers look good but, I am interested in what would be considered low with my set up.
Thank you for your kind words on the videos, I'm glad they were helpful!

As for the oil pressure drop on the sandwich plate, my guess is 2-3 PSI, depending on oil temp and engine RPM.

This spring/summer I will datalog oil pressure before and after the oil filter.
I might even try a few different types of oil filters to see if the pressure drop is different with different filters.


As a single data point of reference, here are my oil pressures & temperature at idle on my 2011 G37, 6MT with 130,000 miles over about 1300 seconds (~21 minutes) with no oil cooler, not even the factory one.

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If you want to boost your oil pressure a little bit. You can put a shim under the oil pressure relief spring. Start with a 0.010 thick shim. You have to drop the oil pan to do it. It's an old hot rodder trick.
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If you want to boost your oil pressure a little bit. You can put a shim under the oil pressure relief spring. Start with a 0.010 thick shim. You have to drop the oil pan to do it. It's an old hot rodder trick.
On the VHR, the oil pressure relieve valve is used to limit the maximum engine oil pressure to about ~95 psi (depending on oil temp) This is used to reduce oil pressure on cold starts and at RPM greater than about 4,000.

When at operating temperature and below about 4,000 RPM, the bypass valve is closed, so shimming it up has no impact to oil pressure.
Shimming up the spring does increases the maximum oil pressure, which I don't think is a good idea.

Here is some data from my G37 6MT with 130,000 miles recorded in August:
• Up to about 4,000 RPM the engine oil pressure increases as engine RPM increases in a somewhat linear / straight line, due to the bypass valve staying closed.

• From about 5,000 to 7,500 RPM the engine oil pressure is held somewhat flat/level. This is due the valve being pushed open by the oil pressure and bleeding off oil pressure as the engine RPM rises.



About the data source:
I've developed a module that plugs into the OBD port, reads the CAN bus messages and saves it in human readable format to a CSV file on the SD card 20 times per second.

Engine oil pressure and diff oil temp, are not on the CAN bus. They are received via Bluetooth using an under hood mounted module that powers any standard oil pressure sensor, reads the analog output, converts it to a pressure value and sends it out to the OBD mounted module using Bluetooth. From there it is saved to the SD card.
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