2017 Nismo 2nd gear launch?

trakmnky

Tried to do a 2nd gear launch in my wife's new Nismo and................... just clutch slippage?

Really the clutch is so wimpy in this thing you can't even do a decent launch with it? I've had many many performance cars over the years and can't remember one that wouldn't launch in 2nd in stock trim and either result in a good launch, bogging the motor or tire smoke. Won't be repeating that as I really don't want to lunch the clutch in a new car. Just REALLY disappointed. Is this normal for a Nismo/Z?

The stock clutch in my vette still hangs onto a 2nd gear launch and I'm putting down 40% more power over stock.

Clutch engagement/disengagement is really high on the stroke but seems to be adjusted right as there's a little free play at the top.

More I learn about this car the more it's becoming apparent it's all about just looking fast. After 6 generations I really expected the "track" version to be sorted better. At least to the point that you didn't have to worry about things like clutch slave issues, weak clutches, diff's that don't stand up to track use, hubs that don't stand up, cooling issues for oil and power steering, fuel starvation on anything less than a full tank....

Maybe my expectations were to high but for 10K less I could buy a miata that can be tracked pretty much right off the showroom floor without issues. And before anyone tries to flame me here I've built and raced several Spec Miata's not to mention several other race cars both foreign and domestic.

The Z is a really nice looking car and has a lot of potential. Just wished Nissan would've fixed a few of the major issues that seem to have been out there for a long time. So far it's been a fun little car and the wife likes it which is what matters most.

lj909

Everything you said is true. The car has a lot of potential. The designer of the Z directly stated that it was not intended for track use from the factory. (Few cars are BTW) keep in mind that it is old, and hasn't been updated performance wise but when it cane out it definitely was fast.

You'd think that NISMO would make it better but it seems NISMO just puts there name on anything nowadays (juke, sentra)

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JTM88

Ugh, can't tell if troll or idiot. Who the hell launches in 2nd

trakmnky

I actually like the fact that it hasn't been updated performance wise in a while. The lack of drivers "aids" and other electronics imo is an advantage. More of an honest real sports car approach vs we converted this sedan or econobox and added a ton of BS electronics to try and fool you/it into believing it's actually a performance vehicle.

One of my more recent daily drivers was one of those sedans that was converted and while we did make it into a fairly decent track machine it took a lot of time, effort and money to do it. In the end even though it was capable of some really respectable lap times you couldn't forgot that it actually started out originally as a fwd sedan.

The great thing about the Z is that it was designed as a sports car and has stayed true to that. They didn't over complicate it, fill it with techno wizardry or allow the bloat to close in on that 4000lb mark like so many others. Really nice that they've kept it as a 6cyl and not gone the turbo 4 route like everyone else.

It's just they're so close to getting it right. It wouldn't take much, just fix a couple of issues and the car would be awesome. At the nismo's price point they're really isn't any reason not to other than people buy them anyway. If they did that and made 6th into a real overdrive so you could pull 30+mpg with it you'd see a lot more of them out there.

trakmnky

To JTM88

Anyone who has a car with more than a little power and wants quick 0-60 or 1/4 mile times.

Unless you regear 1st usually becomes useless as it's to short. Second is still geared short enough in many cars to launch with and will take to 60 plus without a shift.

After supercharging my current C7, and past BMW's 1st became a waste of time in all of them. Guess you've never had anything with real power or you'd know that.

JTM88

yeah...or just learn to manipulate the throttle

Jhill

Not sure if trolling but to compare the z to the Vette isn't really apples to apples when the base prices for the vette is still 13k more than a nismo before dealer mark up which I doubt you see on the nismo since it is not as popular but I know people were paying up to 80k when the stingray first came out at my dealer.

I will not defend the CSC on the z that is really a short coming on the z the Nissan should address. The clutch they have to be careful as too aggressive and most won't like it so they have to spec for the masses. But think how much car you can have with 13k worth of parts if you really want to compare. Having worked for GM I would rather have my z over a vette and it's issues (valve train wear).

The Miata is and always has been a great bang for buck car but there just isn't much car there.

trakmnky

Ok full disclosure I wasn't launching it in 2nd just dropped from 3rd after pulling a u-turn so we were rolling fairly fast which is why I didn't drop to 1st. Was still really surprised when the clutch just slipped instead of pulling.

Have had several cars though where first was useless though and have never had a sports car that would slip the clutch in 2nd versus light the tires or bog the motor.

Kerbeck has a brand new C7 for 46K Corvette by Kerbeck | Corvettes for Sale | #1 Largest Corvette Dealer! I've seen many others on lots around here for upper 40's after rebates as well while looking for a new truck.

A nismo tech which still isn't optioned as well as a base C7 $45K Only 1K separation there.

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RadioFlyer

One thing that may have been happening was that YOU were slipping the clutch by accident. The stock clutch has a really high engagement point, and when I was on the stock clutch I found myself slipping excessively between gears unless I REALLY let off. Almost side-stepping the clutch to get it to engage quickly. That may not have been the case, but these clutches take some time to get used to. (This is coming from an ex-HPDE instructor, where I was in and out of MANY performance cars at any given track day.) Just something to think about.

Jinxx

Not sure why your clutch would be slipping.... I roll hard on 2nd gear all the time and no issues .... I have always broke traction at the tires if too aggressive never had clutch slip .. it's stock and running supercharger in it ... might wanna get it checked.

BLK N-Z34

I'm driving a 2017 Nismo 6MT and I haven't had any issues like the ones that you are describing. I would definitely take it to the dealer and have it checked. That doesn't sound normal.

ZoomZ

2017 NISMO here as well. I don't have the clutch slip. As others noted, the grab is almost at top of release. Need to get used to it.

I love launching in 3rd, where it really shines. (FOR ME)