Gear box feels like shifting in sand

Cbtech · 09-21-2015, 01:23 AM

So i just got a new long block under warranty from the dealer and i put in a south bend stage 2 clutch in her with a Z1 HD CSC. Had a few issues with the CSC not bleeding correctly but finally got it resolved. Now im running into an issue with shifting. The clutch engages and disengages without issue but when shifting into ANY gear it feels like im having to push harder into each gear. There is no binding, no grinding, or slipping but for lack of a better description it feels like im shifting in sand. it almost feels as though something is over tightened but i pulled apart the shifter and shifter plate and found nothing binding there. Has anyone run into this issue before? Im thinking that they may have forgotten to fill the transmission back up with fluid but i wouldnt think that would be the issue. I didnt have this issue before the car went in for the long block install. only thing new is the CSC and the clutch as far as the transmission is concern. thanks for your help!

Zbrah · 09-21-2015, 02:37 AM

Damn...and I thought you're in the clear now. I think you should contact Joe directly for opinion since he's probably more knowledgeable about this set up than anyone on the forum.

POS VETT · 09-21-2015, 06:22 AM

Where is the clutch pedal engangement point?

TreeSemdyZee · 09-21-2015, 08:48 AM

Joe installed pretty much the same setup as you are describing, minus the engine change.
I had a weird issue for awhile that when I really romped on it, I would get shaking when I depressed the clutch and it felt like it was "pushing back" at me. After awhile, it went away and is now driving perfectly, even when I romp on it.
Don't know if this helps or not, but there seemed to be a pretty hefty break-in time after the install.

Cbtech · 09-21-2015, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by POS VETT

Where is the clutch pedal engangement point?

It's about 3 inches from the top, no slop at all

Cbtech · 09-21-2015, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee

Joe installed pretty much the same setup as you are describing, minus the engine change.
I had a weird issue for awhile that when I really romped on it, I would get shaking when I depressed the clutch and it felt like it was "pushing back" at me. After awhile, it went away and is now driving perfectly, even when I romp on it.
Don't know if this helps or not, but there seemed to be a pretty hefty break-in time after the install.

Not getting anything like that. Everything else feels normal just the tough shifting :/

abm89 · 09-21-2015, 10:45 AM

Make sure your shifter plate is properly aligned. That will screw up your shifts.

POS VETT · 09-21-2015, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cbtech

It's about 3 inches from the top, no slop at all

If it could be adjusted about an inch from top, would it change the shifting effort?

Cbtech · 09-21-2015, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abm89

Make sure your shifter plate is properly aligned. That will screw up your shifts.

I thought that and took the shifter assembly as well, but that didnt resolve the issue

Cbtech · 09-21-2015, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by POS VETT

If it could be adjusted about an inch from top, would it change the shifting effort?

I could look at that but not sure that would resolve the stick shift effort...like I said it feels like im shifting in sand. So odd

SouthArk370Z · 09-21-2015, 02:19 PM

Did you change the trans fluid wt/brand? If so, go back to the original wt/brand and see if that helps.

Joe@ZSpeed · 09-21-2015, 02:31 PM

Also check the bolt through the bottom of the shifter, If they over tighten that it will make the shifter feel "Stiff"

Not sure what you mean with Z1 CSC? Assuming you have our HD CSC?

Cbtech · 09-21-2015, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe@ZSpeed

Also check the bolt through the bottom of the shifter, If they over tighten that it will make the shifter feel "Stiff"

Not sure what you mean with Z1 CSC? Assuming you have our HD CSC?

Yeah the HD CSC. I'm the guy with the bleeder valve issue last week btw, Joe.

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ourdelusions · 09-25-2015, 02:34 PM

Did this get resolved? Having the same problem

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09-21-2015, 01:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
Cbtech A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,372 Drives: 40th Anniversary Rep Power: 15	Gear box feels like shifting in sand So i just got a new long block under warranty from the dealer and i put in a south bend stage 2 clutch in her with a Z1 HD CSC. Had a few issues with the CSC not bleeding correctly but finally got it resolved. Now im running into an issue with shifting. The clutch engages and disengages without issue but when shifting into ANY gear it feels like im having to push harder into each gear. There is no binding, no grinding, or slipping but for lack of a better description it feels like im shifting in sand. it almost feels as though something is over tightened but i pulled apart the shifter and shifter plate and found nothing binding there. Has anyone run into this issue before? Im thinking that they may have forgotten to fill the transmission back up with fluid but i wouldnt think that would be the issue. I didnt have this issue before the car went in for the long block install. only thing new is the CSC and the clutch as far as the transmission is concern. thanks for your help! __________________ Are U in Sacramento or Central Valley California? Click here! Foglight Hardwire in less than 10 minutes! DIY: Automatic VDC off

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Zbrah A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: The370Z.com Posts: 4,956 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 5451	Damn...and I thought you're in the clear now. I think you should contact Joe directly for opinion since he's probably more knowledgeable about this set up than anyone on the forum. TreeSemdyZee likes this. __________________

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Joe@ZSpeed The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,304 Drives: Nissan Rep Power: 342999	Also check the bolt through the bottom of the shifter, If they over tighten that it will make the shifter feel "Stiff" Not sure what you mean with Z1 CSC? Assuming you have our HD CSC? __________________ Phone *937-506-7224* E-Mail Sales@Zspeed.com www.ZSPEED.com

09-21-2015, 06:22 AM	#3 (permalink)
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09-21-2015, 08:48 AM	#4 (permalink)
TreeSemdyZee Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kentuck-IANA Age: 60 Posts: 4,883 Drives: '09 370 & ‘14 Juke Rep Power: 27408	Joe installed pretty much the same setup as you are describing, minus the engine change. I had a weird issue for awhile that when I really romped on it, I would get shaking when I depressed the clutch and it felt like it was "pushing back" at me. After awhile, it went away and is now driving perfectly, even when I romp on it. Don't know if this helps or not, but there seemed to be a pretty hefty break-in time after the install.

09-25-2015, 02:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
ourdelusions Base Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: NC Age: 32 Posts: 172 Drives: Insanely Rep Power: 11	Did this get resolved? Having the same problem Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

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