My 370z engine bites the dust

Technik330 · 10-14-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Nissan will not even start to get concerned and run consumption tests until your burn rate drops below a quart per 1000 miles. 1 quart per 1500 is nothing to worry about. Good chance this will drop to nothing (as others have) once break in (5000 miles) is achieved..

Awesome, I appreciate the information. Thanks

semtex · 10-14-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

What is the brand that comes pre loaded in the engine so I can buy a quart or two when I get it to keep it topped off until I can get it swapped out?

Nissan Ester Oil, I would presume, as that's the recommended oil in the manual.

Modshack · 10-14-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

Nissan Ester Oil, I would presume, as that's the recommended oil in the manual.

Though no one's ever verified this. The manual says a "high quality oil" from the factory. I really doubt it's Esther oil as the cost over 10's of thousands of cars would be astronomical..

semtex · 10-14-2009, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Though no one's ever verified this. The manual says a "high quality oil" from the factory. I really doubt it's Esther oil as the cost over 10's of thousands of cars would be astronomical..

I doubt Nissan has to pay the same amount that they're charging their own customers for the stuff; they probably get it for pennies on the dollar. But you're right about it being unverified, in any case.

kevr6 · 10-14-2009, 07:59 PM

This is well within the Lemon Law act. He can ask for a new car all together!! I would! (Not sure if he's doing that, long a$$ thread)
Worth it to call a lawyer!!
I've had, on occasion, major issues with new Audis (work at a dealership) and those customers who demanded another vehicles did got one!! Sometimes with more options!
I wouldn't want my new car from the assembly line taken apart and reassembled!! HELL NO!!
My two cents.
Also: The Audis all burn oil and have a "Min Oil" warning (level sensor) since it's expected!
Audi states that increments as low as 1500 miles is normal.

Luckily we don't see that often!

carfr3ak · 10-14-2009, 08:24 PM

How is this well within the lemon law? It usually has to be the same exact problem recurring 3 times at least for it to be a lemon. His engine failed, Nissan gave him a brand spanking new engine. It doesn't get any better than that folks. This is not a situation where the car was involved in a major accident, and the body will never be the same again. This is a 100% back to normal fix.

alexanderb · 10-14-2009, 08:54 PM

A bit off topic but would an oil pressure gauge have prevented this from happening? since you can see if something funky is going on?

spearfish25 · 10-14-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

What is the brand that comes pre loaded in the engine so I can buy a quart or two when I get it to keep it topped off until I can get it swapped out?

Nissan Ester Oil 5W30
NISSAN OIL 5W30 :: Nissan Parts, NISMO and Nissan Accessories - Courtesyparts.com

kevr6 · 10-14-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by carfr3ak

How is this well within the lemon law? It usually has to be the same exact problem recurring 3 times at least for it to be a lemon. His engine failed, Nissan gave him a brand spanking new engine. It doesn't get any better than that folks. This is not a situation where the car was involved in a major accident, and the body will never be the same again. This is a 100% back to normal fix.

All I'm saying is there has been engine failures soon after purchase at my dealership and Audi takes car of their customer when they ask.(example: an S6 customer had an issue where his engine had to be replaced 1500 miles into ownership, he wasn't comfortable with that, they gave him a new car) Complete engine failure at that mileage absolutely qualifies. I can't beleive you would not agree! And yes, "it can get better than that since I live at a dealership for 12 to 14 hours a day and see it!" (that was why I posted) My POV is from behind the counter talking with Manufacturer reps and such(granted not Nissan). If you have a better POV then share!!
With this type of repair anything can happen that could cause a problem down the road. I handle tickets with engine replacements and it is a major job. If you were to walk down and see you car midway through this type of repair you would probably rethink your position!
Maybe the Audi buyer is generally smarter then the Nissan buyer?? (Flame suit)

Jokes!
PS: I also have little faith with Nissan techs from personal experience.

John@Z1 · 10-15-2009, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by alexanderb

A bit off topic but would an oil pressure gauge have prevented this from happening? since you can see if something funky is going on?

It's very strange to me that Nissan didn't put an oil gauge in the 370Z.

kannibul · 10-15-2009, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by alexanderb

A bit off topic but would an oil pressure gauge have prevented this from happening? since you can see if something funky is going on?

Pressure Guage wouldn't do it, since if it drops, you're pretty much done at that point fairly soon after...as in you you better be ready to shut it down as soon as it drops.

370Zsteve · 10-15-2009, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kevr6

All I'm saying is there has been engine failures soon after purchase at my dealership and Audi takes car of their customer when they ask.(example: an S6 customer had an issue where his engine had to be replaced 1500 miles into ownership, he wasn't comfortable with that, they gave him a new car) Complete engine failure at that mileage absolutely qualifies. I can't beleive you would not agree! And yes, "it can get better than that since I live at a dealership for 12 to 14 hours a day and see it!" (that was why I posted) My POV is from behind the counter talking with Manufacturer reps and such(granted not Nissan). If you have a better POV then share!!
With this type of repair anything can happen that could cause a problem down the road. I handle tickets with engine replacements and it is a major job. If you were to walk down and see you car midway through this type of repair you would probably rethink your position!
Maybe the Audi buyer is generally smarter then the Nissan buyer?? (Flame suit)

Jokes!
PS: I also have little faith with Nissan techs from personal experience.

Great post until the crack about "Nissan techs" which pretty much blows the rest of your post to hell.

Denny McLain · 10-15-2009, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by John@Z1

It's very strange to me that Nissan didn't put an oil gauge in the 370Z.

Agree along with a real temp guage instead of volts. Knowing oil pressure and water temps in my mind is pretty important. Low oil pressure = major issues.

Denny McLain · 10-15-2009, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Great post until the crack about "Nissan techs" which pretty much blows the rest of your post to hell.

Dunno, the man is in the business in the trenchs everyday, but I'm sure he has a little bias. We all do.

kevr6 · 10-15-2009, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Great post until the crack about "Nissan techs" which pretty much blows the rest of your post to hell.

Sorry!! I did say based on my personal experience!! (just so folks know it doesn't mean all)

Reading is fundamental!

Also: Checked w/ co worker advisors here & they agree w/ me. I just want him to cover his butt!

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carfr3ak Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 71 Drives: Nissan SUV Rep Power: 15	How is this well within the lemon law? It usually has to be the same exact problem recurring 3 times at least for it to be a lemon. His engine failed, Nissan gave him a brand spanking new engine. It doesn't get any better than that folks. This is not a situation where the car was involved in a major accident, and the body will never be the same again. This is a 100% back to normal fix.

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