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Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N Umm, it's hidden underneath the console. If you can still see it you should get your eyes checked and apply for a super hero license. Good

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Old 02-04-2014, 11:12 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Umm, it's hidden underneath the console. If you can still see it you should get your eyes checked and apply for a super hero license.
Good DIY man. I think whomever is doing the MOD could figure out what type conector to use.
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Old 04-20-2015, 11:33 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Anyone else doing this mod?
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Not while it's my DD. But it is on the list.



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If you're doing a diy for others to follow, do it right! We don't need ghetto hacks to a 30k car. This is why 350's and civic get a bad name. Do it right or not at all.
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Wow, this is so odd... I don't actually remember it being Scott who originally had a problem with me on this... It was someone else. So weird.

Edit: Nope, it WAS sott. go figure.

Anyway, Just wanted to give a bit of an non-update. No issues since doing this. Not that I anticipated any issues but just thought I'd mention it. Wrong connectors and all.
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To answer your question - the mod fixes my problem which was the electronics intervening when I am trail-braking on the track, but I don;t reckon it will fix your problem which is more aligned to drag-racing ...
Hi there. I was curious about this jaw sensor mod as I've only done the power brake mod for burnouts. I am not tracking and didn't know about trail-braking but read up on it now. It is clearly a desirable skill on the track (and road). But can you elaborate why and in what way the ECM interferes when trail-braking? Does the VCD apply additional unwanted brake during a fast corner? Why would switching off VCD not suffice. Thx for enlightening me
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... Anyway, Just wanted to give a bit of an non-update. No issues since doing this. Not that I anticipated any issues but just thought I'd mention it. Wrong connectors and all.
Nothing wrong with the way you did it - orders of magnitude better than the twist-the-bare-wires-together-and-tape-them-up method that I've seen used.

Personally, I would use insulated crimp connectors. But that's just because I have a bunch of crimp connectors laying around (I've worked as an Electrician and an Instrument Tech and my hobbies often involve electrical equipment).

Soldering, if done properly, will give a better electrical and mechanical connection than crimp connections, especially if used in a location that promotes corrosion, but makes changing the switch more difficult. I have seen people slide the insulation off the crimp connector (not an easy job), solder the crimp, and then replace the insulator - overkill in my book.
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Really? They're male/female electrical connectors. You don't think that switch has that big flat brass with a hole just to have a wire passed through do you? Wire goes into the connector and the connector goes onto the brass. The hole is there because the female connector has a bulge kinda that locks into that hole. That way the connector won't come off with vibration. And for arch issues they're covered in a plastic shield.
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Will this also disengage the ABS on a 09'?
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what does adding this switch do to the performance of our Z's? specifically a 2013 base sport ?
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Howdy, I just got done with this setup on my 14 370Z, however my traction control light always stays on, whether the switch is off or on? Is it suppose to trip a code or something that I need to clear?
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It keeps the car from sending you into a wall when maintaining extreme slip angles such as when drifting. There is no performance gain, just disables more nannies.

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Howdy, I just got done with this setup on my 14 370Z, however my traction control light always stays on, whether the switch is off or on? Is it suppose to trip a code or something that I need to clear?
It should not trip a code. Though once you disable the yaw sensor, the traction control will remain off until you restart the car. If you start the car with yaw control engaged, you should have no problems.
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Hi there. I was curious about this jaw sensor mod as I've only done the power brake mod for burnouts. I am not tracking and didn't know about trail-braking but read up on it now. It is clearly a desirable skill on the track (and road). But can you elaborate why and in what way the ECM interferes when trail-braking? Does the VCD apply additional unwanted brake during a fast corner? Why would switching off VCD not suffice. Thx for enlightening me
Just seen this comment ............

There are two inter-related electronic stability control functions, ESC and VDC. ESC is basically monitoring difference between wheel speeds at all 4 corners and if the rear wheels are turning faster than the fronts, the ECU will cut fuel/ignition to stop the wheel-spin and keep you straight.

VDC monitors "yaw" and it is trying to determine if the car is sliding and will trigger one or more brake calipers via the ABS controller. For instance, VDC figures that if you have a little left hand lock in the steering, and the yaw sensor shows lateral acceleration to the right (i.e. sliding to the right - what you get when cornering hard to the left with a slide), it will trigger the right rear brake to try and straighten the car up so you can then steer out of trouble.

All very good except if I am flat in 4th on the approach to T9 at Philip Island GP circuit - a part of the circuit where your are turning left, the car is sliding towards the right hand side of the track and you require a trail brake deep into the approach and the VDC gives your right rear brake caliper a tweak which pitches the car right towards the wall - THAT gets your attention. It is exactly the wrong thing for the electronics to be doing, and why I have a switch to disable it.

Road car safety algorithms are usually the precise opposite of what you require on a track.
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