Lowering Springs Comparisons

Crucified · 06-11-2016, 12:28 AM

New guy here looking for a list of additional components to do this right. Control arms etc? I just came over from the mini truck scene, more accustomed to airbags and fabricating than "tuners". This will take some time but my new Z is making it E-Z to be inspired.

Bshields22 · 07-13-2016, 03:47 PM

How does lowering springs on stock setup effect camber, toe etc?

osbornsm · 07-13-2016, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bshields22

How does lowering springs on stock setup effect camber, toe etc?

Lowering the car with just springs and no other adjustment will increase toe and camber outside of acceptable levels. I. E. Wear the sh*t out of your tires.

FLUJOKE · 07-13-2016, 03:48 PM

Yes

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Bshields22 · 07-13-2016, 06:26 PM

So what should you couple your spring kits with to get camber back to where it should be? online is saying some alignment kits...thought?

Second question: do coilovers cause the same issues? How do you ensure the right camber after install

Hotrodz · 07-13-2016, 06:38 PM

With springs, get spl camber arms and spc toe bolts...coil overs you may need front A arms and if you track it is a must. I have both and my alignment guy love them and me too!

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Bshields22 · 07-13-2016, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

With springs, get spl camber arms and spc toe bolts...coil overs you may need front A arms and if you track it is a must. I have both and my alignment guy love them and me too!

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Good info! Thank you sir!

Hotrodz · 07-13-2016, 08:15 PM

You are welcome!

old guy · 01-18-2017, 03:38 PM

After reading through ( skimming ) all the posts ..... Has anyone just lowered the rear of the car?
Looking at my all stock Z, it looks as if I lowered it an inch the stance would be perfect.

Thoughts, comments.....

King · 01-24-2017, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by old guy

After reading through ( skimming ) all the posts ..... Has anyone just lowered the rear of the car?
Looking at my all stock Z, it looks as if I lowered it an inch the stance would be perfect.

Thoughts, comments.....

I bought my z used, I was staring at it sunday thinking about lowering it, and I noticed my rear actually looked as if it had been lowered. There is definitely less wheel clearance in the rear than the front, and it appears to have a visible negative camber, on the rear.

This might explain some of the odd handling behavior I have been noticing. It was raining though so I didn't get down to inspect it.

jchammond · 01-24-2017, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by King

I bought my z used, I was staring at it sunday thinking about lowering it, and I noticed my rear actually looked as if it had been lowered. There is definitely less wheel clearance in the rear than the front, and it appears to have a visible negative camber, on the rear.

This might explain some of the odd handling behavior I have been noticing. It was raining though so I didn't get down to inspect it.

From the factory; Z's have twice the negative camber on rear vs. front.
They also have twice as much positive toe.
19 gallon fuel cell will affect the height difference in rear-pending how much you have on.
Hope this help's.
ps: be sure the surface is perfectly level & flat...as with the independent everything;will make a difference on measurement's.

shadow85 · 03-27-2017, 07:23 AM

Hey fellas can I have some opinions on Eibach vs H&R vs Swift springs.

Currently I can get new Eibach springs for $230 USD locally in Australia. I would get Swift springs, but I would have to order them from the US $314 USD plus shipping to here which won't be cheap.

Is it worth if or should I get the Eibachs here and call it a day?

Cheers.

cooltoy · 03-27-2017, 08:39 AM

They each have a different amount of drop and spring rates.

shadow85 · 03-27-2017, 01:16 PM

Yep I know the Swifts drop 1
~1.2" on the front and the Eibach ~0.9".

Performance wise, should I fork out the extra $ for the swifts, or since I can get the Eibachs cheaper locally go for that one?

Chuck33079 · 03-27-2017, 01:29 PM

Whichever you do, budget for camber arms and toe bolts.

07-13-2016, 03:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bshields22 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 422 Drives: 2012 Black 370Z-R Rep Power: 698	How does lowering springs on stock setup effect camber, toe etc? __________________ 308 rwhp \| 252 rwtq \| Fast Intentions CBE 18" Res \| Stillen Gen 3 CAI \| EcuTek Tune \| Stoptech Slotted Rotors and Sport Pads \| KW V3 Coilovers \| SPL Upper Control Arms & Lower Rear Arms \| Seibon CF TS Hood \| Vossen CVT \| SPC Toe bolts

07-13-2016, 06:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
Bshields22 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 422 Drives: 2012 Black 370Z-R Rep Power: 698	So what should you couple your spring kits with to get camber back to where it should be? online is saying some alignment kits...thought? Second question: do coilovers cause the same issues? How do you ensure the right camber after install __________________ 308 rwhp \| 252 rwtq \| Fast Intentions CBE 18" Res \| Stillen Gen 3 CAI \| EcuTek Tune \| Stoptech Slotted Rotors and Sport Pads \| KW V3 Coilovers \| SPL Upper Control Arms & Lower Rear Arms \| Seibon CF TS Hood \| Vossen CVT \| SPC Toe bolts

07-13-2016, 06:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	With springs, get spl camber arms and spc toe bolts...coil overs you may need front A arms and if you track it is a must. I have both and my alignment guy love them and me too! Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk Bshields22 and NismOrly22 like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

07-13-2016, 08:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	You are welcome! __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

03-27-2017, 08:39 AM	#13 (permalink)
cooltoy Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Calgary Posts: 14,003 Drives: 14 PW 370Z S/T MT Rep Power: 243724	They each have a different amount of drop and spring rates. __________________ Member of kenchan's "photoshopped mods" and "proper offsets" gang.

06-11-2016, 12:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
Crucified Base Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: SoCal I.E. Posts: 98 Drives: 16 370z Rep Power: 124	New guy here looking for a list of additional components to do this right. Control arms etc? I just came over from the mini truck scene, more accustomed to airbags and fabricating than "tuners". This will take some time but my new Z is making it E-Z to be inspired.

07-13-2016, 03:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
FLUJOKE Track Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: earth Posts: 770 Drives: car Rep Power: 2068	Yes Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01-18-2017, 03:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
old guy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: S.E. Michigan Age: 69 Posts: 2,711 Drives: 13 magma touring Rep Power: 2684370	After reading through ( skimming ) all the posts ..... Has anyone just lowered the rear of the car? Looking at my all stock Z, it looks as if I lowered it an inch the stance would be perfect. Thoughts, comments.....

03-27-2017, 07:23 AM	#12 (permalink)
shadow85 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: South Australia, Austra Posts: 921 Drives: 15' 370Z A/T AMM TT Rep Power: 26	Hey fellas can I have some opinions on Eibach vs H&R vs Swift springs. Currently I can get new Eibach springs for $230 USD locally in Australia. I would get Swift springs, but I would have to order them from the US $314 USD plus shipping to here which won't be cheap. Is it worth if or should I get the Eibachs here and call it a day? Cheers.

03-27-2017, 01:16 PM	#14 (permalink)
shadow85 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: South Australia, Austra Posts: 921 Drives: 15' 370Z A/T AMM TT Rep Power: 26	Yep I know the Swifts drop 1 ~1.2" on the front and the Eibach ~0.9". Performance wise, should I fork out the extra $ for the swifts, or since I can get the Eibachs cheaper locally go for that one?

03-27-2017, 01:29 PM	#15 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Whichever you do, budget for camber arms and toe bolts. Memphis370Z and YYZ like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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