Rear essentric lockout bolt kit?

synolimit · 08-24-2013, 06:42 PM

So I'm making my own kit. The 10.9 bolts can be bought at autozone or advanced auto for like $2 each and the t6061 plates can be made super cheap with a simple hole drilled in the middle that needs to sit in between the grooves on the sub frame (1.33-1.34"). My question is if I install now what will my camber do? Using a level pressed up against my tires (to long to go rim to rim of the wheel which would be a more accurate number) and my iPhone sitting flush against the level, my camber is -1.9 drivers and -1.4 passenger. Any idea if ill go more camber one way or the other?

FYI front is drivers side -0.5 and passenger is -0.8 so it seems like it works as everything seems factory spec since I'm all stock.

SPOHN · 08-25-2013, 06:48 PM

It's possible. Anytime you loosen them up they seem to change, even when tightening down. So far as for camber I feel you would be ok. Toe would be ?able. I love that app though. Works perfect for me also.

Side note dude. Your tattoo is about 100% same as mine. I have flames with skulls in it. Rep.

phunk · 08-26-2013, 03:21 AM

Just so you know.. Once you make your camber adjustment kit, adjusting the LCA for camber has very dramatic effects on your toe as well. Not sure if you were planning on setting your camber with the phone level... I actually would trust that to be accurate as far as camber, but it won't show you how bad the toe just got screwed when you moved the camber.

SPOHN · 08-26-2013, 04:22 AM

Good point Phunk. I forgot camber adjustment effects toe also.

phunk · 08-26-2013, 10:28 AM

I couldnt help but remember since I just aligned my car Thursday, and I have the suspension drawn in CAD right now while I am trying to figure out some control arm angle adjustments so my car can put the power down without having to go back to stock ride height.

synolimit · 08-26-2013, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

It's possible. Anytime you loosen them up they seem to change, even when tightening down. So far as for camber I feel you would be ok. Toe would be ?able. I love that app though. Works perfect for me also.

Side note dude. Your tattoo is about 100% same as mine. I have flames with skulls in it. Rep.

See that's why I want the lockout kit. Once I get camber arms and toe arms, I want all the adjustment there and not at my bolt locations. A smooth bolt won't move like an eccentic bolt can. "If" I installed these ahead of time I was only planning on the control arm and not the toe arm. But if toe does move even with just messing with the camber bolt, then I won't touch anything.

Really it's the same tattoo??

phunk · 08-26-2013, 11:03 AM

what do you mean by a "lockout"?

synolimit · 08-26-2013, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phunk

what do you mean by a "lockout"?

I don't know, just the name of the kit I see. Just bolts and aluminium end plates instead of the eccentic bolts.

synolimit · 08-26-2013, 11:43 AM

FYI, on a jeep I normally did toe by measuring the tires front a rear. The rear of course had zero toe and front was set 1/8" inward. I could measure front and rear of the rear tire with a tape measure by using the same method. Stick the tape measure in a tire grove and measure the same groove on the other side. If front and rear are both say 60 1/8" then after adjusting things, the measuent must still be 60 1/8".

synolimit · 08-26-2013, 12:01 PM

Well I'm stoaked!! Local scrap yard had t6061 piece for $0.75. So plus about $8 for the bolts the lockout kit will cost me $8.75!!! Vs say SPL which is $72!

phunk · 08-26-2013, 02:15 PM

I am very curious to see exactly what you are planning on doing.

Spec Jay · 08-26-2013, 03:09 PM

grind a flat on a bolt. cut the aluminum into washers drill a offset hole to match bolt. is what i think hes doing. i wouldve used steel though.

phunk · 08-26-2013, 03:25 PM

that just sounds like a regular eccentric bolt kit?

modme · 08-26-2013, 03:58 PM

It would no longer be adjustable and no slip. Assuming suspension geometry doesnt change, camber and toe will always stay the same.

Cbtech · 08-26-2013, 05:15 PM

***retard moment here

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what is this supposed to do??

08-24-2013, 06:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3388	Rear essentric lockout bolt kit? So I'm making my own kit. The 10.9 bolts can be bought at autozone or advanced auto for like $2 each and the t6061 plates can be made super cheap with a simple hole drilled in the middle that needs to sit in between the grooves on the sub frame (1.33-1.34"). My question is if I install now what will my camber do? Using a level pressed up against my tires (to long to go rim to rim of the wheel which would be a more accurate number) and my iPhone sitting flush against the level, my camber is -1.9 drivers and -1.4 passenger. Any idea if ill go more camber one way or the other? FYI front is drivers side -0.5 and passenger is -0.8 so it seems like it works as everything seems factory spec since I'm all stock. __________________ 13 370z- Last edited by synolimit; 08-24-2013 at 06:52 PM.

08-25-2013, 06:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	It's possible. Anytime you loosen them up they seem to change, even when tightening down. So far as for camber I feel you would be ok. Toe would be ?able. I love that app though. Works perfect for me also. Side note dude. Your tattoo is about 100% same as mine. I have flames with skulls in it. Rep. __________________

08-26-2013, 03:21 AM	#3 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,655 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 944523	Just so you know.. Once you make your camber adjustment kit, adjusting the LCA for camber has very dramatic effects on your toe as well. Not sure if you were planning on setting your camber with the phone level... I actually would trust that to be accurate as far as camber, but it won't show you how bad the toe just got screwed when you moved the camber. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

08-26-2013, 04:22 AM	#4 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	Good point Phunk. I forgot camber adjustment effects toe also. __________________

08-26-2013, 10:28 AM	#5 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,655 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 944523	I couldnt help but remember since I just aligned my car Thursday, and I have the suspension drawn in CAD right now while I am trying to figure out some control arm angle adjustments so my car can put the power down without having to go back to stock ride height. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

08-26-2013, 11:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,655 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 944523	what do you mean by a "lockout"? __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

08-26-2013, 11:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3388	FYI, on a jeep I normally did toe by measuring the tires front a rear. The rear of course had zero toe and front was set 1/8" inward. I could measure front and rear of the rear tire with a tape measure by using the same method. Stick the tape measure in a tire grove and measure the same groove on the other side. If front and rear are both say 60 1/8" then after adjusting things, the measuent must still be 60 1/8". __________________ 13 370z-

08-26-2013, 02:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,655 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 944523	I am very curious to see exactly what you are planning on doing. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

08-26-2013, 03:09 PM	#12 (permalink)
Spec Jay A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bummerton Posts: 1,510 Drives: MtB 09 370z Rep Power: 19	grind a flat on a bolt. cut the aluminum into washers drill a offset hole to match bolt. is what i think hes doing. i wouldve used steel though. __________________ 09 Monterey Blue Global Time Attack Street Class Build Build Thread:Saber! Instagram:@SpecJay

08-26-2013, 03:25 PM	#13 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,655 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 944523	that just sounds like a regular eccentric bolt kit? __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

08-26-2013, 03:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
modme Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NY Posts: 345 Drives: G37 Rep Power: 16	It would no longer be adjustable and no slip. Assuming suspension geometry doesnt change, camber and toe will always stay the same. __________________ GTM Twin Turbo Stage 2\|GTR Turbo/Engine Gauges\|KW V3 Coilovers\|HKS Exhaust\|Oil Cooler\| Vossen CV1

08-26-2013, 05:15 PM	#15 (permalink)
Cbtech A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,372 Drives: 40th Anniversary Rep Power: 15	*retard moment here * what is this supposed to do?? __________________ Are U in Sacramento or Central Valley California? Click here! Foglight Hardwire in less than 10 minutes! DIY: Automatic VDC off

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