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synolimit 08-24-2013 06:42 PM

Rear essentric lockout bolt kit?
 
So I'm making my own kit. The 10.9 bolts can be bought at autozone or advanced auto for like $2 each and the t6061 plates can be made super cheap with a simple hole drilled in the middle that needs to sit in between the grooves on the sub frame (1.33-1.34"). My question is if I install now what will my camber do? Using a level pressed up against my tires (to long to go rim to rim of the wheel which would be a more accurate number) and my iPhone sitting flush against the level, my camber is -1.9 drivers and -1.4 passenger. Any idea if ill go more camber one way or the other?

FYI front is drivers side -0.5 and passenger is -0.8 so it seems like it works as everything seems factory spec since I'm all stock.

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SPOHN 08-25-2013 06:48 PM

It's possible. Anytime you loosen them up they seem to change, even when tightening down. So far as for camber I feel you would be ok. Toe would be ?able. I love that app though. Works perfect for me also.

Side note dude. Your tattoo is about 100% same as mine. I have flames with skulls in it. Rep.

phunk 08-26-2013 03:21 AM

Just so you know.. Once you make your camber adjustment kit, adjusting the LCA for camber has very dramatic effects on your toe as well. Not sure if you were planning on setting your camber with the phone level... I actually would trust that to be accurate as far as camber, but it won't show you how bad the toe just got screwed when you moved the camber.

SPOHN 08-26-2013 04:22 AM

Good point Phunk. I forgot camber adjustment effects toe also.

phunk 08-26-2013 10:28 AM

I couldnt help but remember since I just aligned my car Thursday, and I have the suspension drawn in CAD right now while I am trying to figure out some control arm angle adjustments so my car can put the power down without having to go back to stock ride height.

synolimit 08-26-2013 10:53 AM

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It's possible. Anytime you loosen them up they seem to change, even when tightening down. So far as for camber I feel you would be ok. Toe would be ?able. I love that app though. Works perfect for me also.

Side note dude. Your tattoo is about 100% same as mine. I have flames with skulls in it. Rep.

See that's why I want the lockout kit. Once I get camber arms and toe arms, I want all the adjustment there and not at my bolt locations. A smooth bolt won't move like an eccentic bolt can. "If" I installed these ahead of time I was only planning on the control arm and not the toe arm. But if toe does move even with just messing with the camber bolt, then I won't touch anything.

Really it's the same tattoo??

phunk 08-26-2013 11:03 AM

what do you mean by a "lockout"?

synolimit 08-26-2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 2461753)
what do you mean by a "lockout"?

I don't know, just the name of the kit I see. Just bolts and aluminium end plates instead of the eccentic bolts.

synolimit 08-26-2013 11:43 AM

FYI, on a jeep I normally did toe by measuring the tires front a rear. The rear of course had zero toe and front was set 1/8" inward. I could measure front and rear of the rear tire with a tape measure by using the same method. Stick the tape measure in a tire grove and measure the same groove on the other side. If front and rear are both say 60 1/8" then after adjusting things, the measuent must still be 60 1/8".

synolimit 08-26-2013 12:01 PM

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Well I'm stoaked!! Local scrap yard had t6061 piece for $0.75. So plus about $8 for the bolts the lockout kit will cost me $8.75!!! Vs say SPL which is $72!

phunk 08-26-2013 02:15 PM

I am very curious to see exactly what you are planning on doing.

Spec Jay 08-26-2013 03:09 PM

grind a flat on a bolt. cut the aluminum into washers drill a offset hole to match bolt. is what i think hes doing. i wouldve used steel though.

phunk 08-26-2013 03:25 PM

that just sounds like a regular eccentric bolt kit?

modme 08-26-2013 03:58 PM

It would no longer be adjustable and no slip. Assuming suspension geometry doesnt change, camber and toe will always stay the same.

Cbtech 08-26-2013 05:15 PM

***retard moment here :icon14:***

what is this supposed to do??


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