Help! Stillen H&R Spacer Problem!

Josh@STILLEN · 05-20-2010, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by azn370z

He probably ordered it off stillens website because it says it works on the 370z. So you can't blame the guy. What's the point of buying online if you have to call in to verify it works.

Agreed.. changing things now so it will be more evident.

Josh@STILLEN · 05-20-2010, 06:23 PM

marcussoori,

We're putting together a call tag for the DRM spacers, and will get you out the DRS version. Our salesperson will be in touch shortly with that information.

labk888 · 05-20-2010, 06:45 PM

So while everyone is on the subject of spacers and I have your attention..

1) Why not do DRS on front and rear?
2) Do 20mm/f and 25mm/r + Eibach Pro springs + 19' Sports Package Rays Wheels cause rubbing or clearance issues? What about camber problems?
3) Is there a technical reason why most people choose 15mm/f and 20mm/r ?

marcussoori · 05-21-2010, 08:22 AM

Ok, guys, exchanging the 15mm DRM for the 15mm DRS for the fronts. Stillen is paying for return shipping, thanks Josh et. al. Sorry to upset you, RCZ...my intent was not to blame anyone, just ask for forum advice on what to do. So, someone mentioned I'd need a camber kit with 15mm front and 20mm rear spacers on a stock car? I have no desire to lower the car, so do I still need the camber kit? Thanks for your help, guys...

djpathfinder · 05-21-2010, 08:30 AM

No, you don't need a camber kit for stock height. Even when lowered by 1 inch or less, you may not need a camber kit unless there is a problem with adjusting the alignment back to factory spec.

wheee! · 05-21-2010, 08:33 AM

Check out the comments and threads in my article here:
DIY: ** Rear 20mm stud replacement spacers

I am very happy with my stock suspension and 15mm front and 20mm rear DRS spacers...

phelan · 05-21-2010, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by djpathfinder

No, you don't need a camber kit for stock height. Even when lowered by 1 inch or less, you may not need a camber kit unless there is a problem with adjusting the alignment back to factory spec.

i take exception to the second part of that statement, the eibach springs (which apparently are conservative drops) knocked my rear wheels well out of alignment when i had a 20mm spacer stuck on them. if you lower the car, get the camber kit.

craniac24 · 05-21-2010, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by phelan

i take exception to the second part of that statement, the eibach springs (which apparently are conservative drops) knocked my rear wheels well out of alignment when i had a 20mm spacer stuck on them. if you lower the car, get the camber kit.

Agreed. Also, I would definitely suggest lowering the car if you get spacers.

djpathfinder · 05-21-2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by phelan

i take exception to the second part of that statement, the eibach springs (which apparently are conservative drops) knocked my rear wheels well out of alignment when i had a 20mm spacer stuck on them. if you lower the car, get the camber kit.

You noticed, in my statement I said "1 inch or less" and "may need", not "don't need". I've read differing reports on this forum, but I agree with what you said; most people needed the rear camber kit when lowered.

wishihadnav · 05-21-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by djpathfinder

You noticed, in my statement I said "1 inch or less" and "may need", not "don't need". I've read differing reports on this forum, but I agree with what you said; most people needed the rear camber kit when lowered.

..u dont necessarily need a camber kit/arms for a mild drop.

Modshack · 05-21-2010, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheee!

Check out the comments and threads in my article here:
DIY: ** Rear 20mm stud replacement spacers

And mine on replacing the front studs:

http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...r-install.html

CBRich · 05-21-2010, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by azn370z

He probably ordered it off stillens website because it says it works on the 370z. So you can't blame the guy. What's the point of buying online if you have to call in to verify it works.

And it does work on the 370Z. Just not with those wheels. The man ordered the wrong part, you can't blame Stillen for that. People don't like admitting fault these days do they?

RCZ · 05-21-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by marcussoori

Ok, guys, exchanging the 15mm DRM for the 15mm DRS for the fronts. Stillen is paying for return shipping, thanks Josh et. al. Sorry to upset you, RCZ...my intent was not to blame anyone, just ask for forum advice on what to do. So, someone mentioned I'd need a camber kit with 15mm front and 20mm rear spacers on a stock car? I have no desire to lower the car, so do I still need the camber kit? Thanks for your help, guys...

Oh don't worry you didn't upset me

. I don't care if its Stillen or not, I would've said the same thing about anyone because its a little unfair to the company. Probably a good thing because now the mistake won't be made again.

You don't need a camber kit with spacers...

azn370z · 05-21-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich

And it does work on the 370Z. Just not with those wheels. The man ordered the wrong part, you can't blame Stillen for that. People don't like admitting fault these days do they?

Actually you can blame stillen because it doesn't say the spacer doesn't work with the front sport wheels. And stillen did the right thing by changing the info on their site.

CBRich · 05-21-2010, 06:41 PM

They did help the consumer by doing that but by no means does a company have to list every caveat for every vehicle. It's impractical. I'm glad Stillen stepped up to the plate but honestly you need to do your research before you hit the order button.

05-20-2010, 06:45 PM	#18 (permalink)
labk888 Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Big D Posts: 233 Drives: '10 370Z PW 6MT T&S Rep Power: 532	So while everyone is on the subject of spacers and I have your attention.. 1) Why not do DRS on front and rear? 2) Do 20mm/f and 25mm/r + Eibach Pro springs + 19' Sports Package Rays Wheels cause rubbing or clearance issues? What about camber problems? 3) Is there a technical reason why most people choose 15mm/f and 20mm/r ? __________________ LABK 10' 370Z/PW/6MT/Touring Sport/Illum. Kicks/Ventureshield Ultra/F1 Pinnacle 15% Tint/PLX KIWI Last edited by labk888; 05-20-2010 at 06:48 PM.

05-21-2010, 08:22 AM	#19 (permalink)
marcussoori Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 468 Drives: 09 370Z Red AT Sport Rep Power: 16	Ok, guys, exchanging the 15mm DRM for the 15mm DRS for the fronts. Stillen is paying for return shipping, thanks Josh et. al. Sorry to upset you, RCZ...my intent was not to blame anyone, just ask for forum advice on what to do. So, someone mentioned I'd need a camber kit with 15mm front and 20mm rear spacers on a stock car? I have no desire to lower the car, so do I still need the camber kit? Thanks for your help, guys... __________________ Stillen CBE & G3 LTIs, Motordyne M370, Berk HFCs, H&R 15/20mm spacers, CiNcity headlights, yellow OEM strut brace, Password: JDM CF engine bay parts, EVO-R CF front bumper parts, CF "Z" badge, VIS CF hood, Fujimura CF "diffuser", Show-N-Go plate frame, Katzkin red interior, interior CF, Pioneer BT-90 full system, Viper SmartStart

05-21-2010, 08:30 AM	#20 (permalink)
djpathfinder A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 12,910 Drives: 2012 GT-R BE Rep Power: 733	No, you don't need a camber kit for stock height. Even when lowered by 1 inch or less, you may not need a camber kit unless there is a problem with adjusting the alignment back to factory spec. __________________ 2012 GT-R Black Edition Jet Black 2010 370Z 40th Anniversary // SOLD

05-21-2010, 08:33 AM	#21 (permalink)
wheee! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mod Capital of Canada Age: 57 Posts: 7,354 Drives: cars. lots of cars. Rep Power: 40181	Check out the comments and threads in my article here: DIY: ** Rear 20mm stud replacement spacers I am very happy with my stock suspension and 15mm front and 20mm rear DRS spacers... __________________ H&R / Stillen / Berk / HKS / Swift / Michelin / UpRev / SPC / Amuse Rep / Seibon / Fringe XVO / TWM / more... My Journal

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05-20-2010, 06:23 PM	#17 (permalink)
Josh@STILLEN The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 1,197 Drives: 2004 G35 Coupe 6MT Rep Power: 533	marcussoori, We're putting together a call tag for the DRM spacers, and will get you out the DRS version. Our salesperson will be in touch shortly with that information.

05-21-2010, 06:41 PM	#30 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	They did help the consumer by doing that but by no means does a company have to list every caveat for every vehicle. It's impractical. I'm glad Stillen stepped up to the plate but honestly you need to do your research before you hit the order button.