Stillen intake rattling problem?

azn370z · 05-06-2009, 02:49 AM

I noticed that the intake kind of just floats and isn't tied down. This can't be good for the car. A z shop seems to solved the problem by making their own brackets.

"I need to say that everyone here at Z Car Garage was let down by the fit and finish on these two products. The exhaust rubs and hits in at least two or three places, its painfully annoying. The intake system comes with no brackets of any sort and the front part is left to bounce around to rub on and destroy anything it pleases (see video below.) We have made our own brackets and changes to the intake to prevent any sort of serious damage, we were even forced to wrap the air conditioning lines on the driver’s side to prevent the intake from inevitably rubbing through."

miguez · 05-06-2009, 05:31 AM

Can anyone with these intakes confirm?

arcticreaver · 05-06-2009, 05:38 AM

this has been talked about. the result is because they cut the holes too big because with the gen 3 intakes you have to enlarge the hole but they did too much. so installation fail rather than stillen's fault.

semtex · 05-06-2009, 11:33 AM

+1. The only thing that video proves is the ineptitude of the installers. I have this intake and it doesn't rattle at all.

theDreamer · 05-06-2009, 11:35 AM

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Should we have cut the hole smaller so that the tube would have a snug fit? No, because then you would have all sorts of engine vibrations put right into the chassis of the vehicle. Rattles are annoying and what if it eventually rubs through?
If a simple isolated bracket was designed into the kit there would be no issues. We will be making our own bracket for any future installs of the Stillen intake

This was the reply by Zcargarage on youtube.

nogoodname · 05-06-2009, 11:35 AM

maybe a rubber seal can solve this so the rattling can stop, like those window seals or something.

semtex · 05-06-2009, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nogoodname007

maybe a rubber seal can solve this so the rattling can stop, like those window seals or something.

That's sorta what I did, actually. Here's the reply to them I just posted on YouTube:

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It's a good suggestion (the isolated bracket). We could argue about installation technique till we're blue in the face, but if Stillen included a bracket then the entire issue would be moot, and there'd be no need to worry about how much to cut the hole. It'd eliminate this variable from being a potential cause of problems. So yeah, I agree. What I did was cut the hole slightly wider than needed, then lined the edges with some rubber hose material. A bracket would have made that unnecessary.

Btw, using something to line the edges is actually mentioned in Stillen's instructions, if I recall correctly. So technically, if you follow Stillen's instructions, everything should still be okay. (Not that a bracket wouldn't be an improvement, mind you.)

RCZ · 05-06-2009, 12:10 PM

Thats funny because mine don't do that. As a side note, though, mine are installed correctly. Hmmmmm

"Destroy anything it pleases"? "Serious Damage"? These guys need to chill out and learn how to install things with a little more common sense.

Musashi · 05-06-2009, 12:18 PM

lol Dude whoever installed your intake is a H-A-C-K. Did your local Nissan dealer do it? Mine are solid.... Stillen did a great job with these. Thank you for the laugh this afternoon.

Musashi · 05-06-2009, 10:21 PM

You guys have to see this Vid! lol

njlakeshoreg · 05-06-2009, 11:46 PM

when i installed mine on my G37, at first it was loose, but not that loose...you need to keep playing around with the rubber couplings and the clamps...it will eventually tighten up...to be honest, mine had a lil bit of play after i was done...not much but it was annoying...i took a heavy duty zip tie and held it down behind the bumper...you cant see it and it gives the piece of mind that its COMPLETELY solid...

on a side note, the passenger side is VERY close to a wiring loom and its holder, try to keep it above it or keep the pipe as straight or pretty much high as possible, i noticed when ihad the pipe lower the car did not feel as it should, so i took it back off and redid it and sounded different and felt better...

lww · 05-07-2009, 12:21 AM

You guys crack me up.

I think I would be a little more comfortable with a good clearance gap and a properly designed bracket rather than some "weather stripping" to protect my new intake.

Does the G3 intake come with anything to line the hole with? Does it specify how large the hole should be cut?

wstar · 05-07-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by lww

You guys crack me up.

I think I would be a little more comfortable with a good clearance gap and a properly designed bracket rather than some "weather stripping" to protect my new intake.

Does the G3 intake come with anything to line the hole with? Does it specify how large the hole should be cut?

Well, when you cut the hole, you've got the tube sitting right there in your hand. If the tube doesn't fit in the hole, keep cutting. When it fits, you're done. It's pretty simple really, and works fine as it is.

axio · 05-09-2009, 01:30 PM

Agreed. My Stillen Gen 3 intake fit with no issues at all. Contrary to my experiences (still on-going) with their exhaust, I have nothing but great things to say about their intake. It doesn't rattle, i'm not worried about it breaking anything, etc. I DID also follow their instructions about taking one of the segments of silicone tubing and zip-tieing it around the metal a/c lines (i think they're a/c), and everything fits just great.

miguez · 05-10-2009, 02:06 PM

njlakeshoreg, that's one clean looking engine bay!

05-06-2009, 02:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
azn370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,722 Drives: z34 - R1 Rep Power: 489	Stillen intake rattling problem? I noticed that the intake kind of just floats and isn't tied down. This can't be good for the car. A z shop seems to solved the problem by making their own brackets. "I need to say that everyone here at Z Car Garage was let down by the fit and finish on these two products. The exhaust rubs and hits in at least two or three places, its painfully annoying. The intake system comes with no brackets of any sort and the front part is left to bounce around to rub on and destroy anything it pleases (see video below.) We have made our own brackets and changes to the intake to prevent any sort of serious damage, we were even forced to wrap the air conditioning lines on the driver’s side to prevent the intake from inevitably rubbing through." __________________ 2010 k23 H&R sport springs / Spc rear camber arms / SSR SP1 / Berk cbe / Varis cf lip / Nismo S-Tune side skirts Last edited by azn370z; 05-06-2009 at 02:54 AM.

05-06-2009, 05:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
arcticreaver Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 769 Drives: 2009 Z34 7AT PG Rep Power: 924	this has been talked about. the result is because they cut the holes too big because with the gen 3 intakes you have to enlarge the hole but they did too much. so installation fail rather than stillen's fault. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/arcticreaver - FaceBook http://www.linkedin.com/pub/sam-yang/a/832/325 - LinkedIn Profile

05-06-2009, 11:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 53 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 32	+1. The only thing that video proves is the ineptitude of the installers. I have this intake and it doesn't rattle at all. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

05-06-2009, 12:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1118	Thats funny because mine don't do that. As a side note, though, mine are installed correctly. Hmmmmm "Destroy anything it pleases"? "Serious Damage"? These guys need to chill out and learn how to install things with a little more common sense. Last edited by RCZ; 05-06-2009 at 12:14 PM.

05-07-2009, 12:21 AM	#12 (permalink)
lww Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SF Bay Posts: 69 Drives: '09 Red Sport 6MT+ Rep Power: 16	You guys crack me up. I think I would be a little more comfortable with a good clearance gap and a properly designed bracket rather than some "weather stripping" to protect my new intake. Does the G3 intake come with anything to line the hole with? Does it specify how large the hole should be cut? __________________ Must resist...

05-06-2009, 05:31 AM	#2 (permalink)
miguez Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 359 Drives: '04 Cavalier Rep Power: 181	Can anyone with these intakes confirm?

05-06-2009, 11:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1764	maybe a rubber seal can solve this so the rattling can stop, like those window seals or something.

05-06-2009, 12:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
Musashi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 357 Drives: 09 370Z 6speed Rep Power: 606	lol Dude whoever installed your intake is a H-A-C-K. Did your local Nissan dealer do it? Mine are solid.... Stillen did a great job with these. Thank you for the laugh this afternoon.

05-06-2009, 10:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
Musashi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 357 Drives: 09 370Z 6speed Rep Power: 606	You guys have to see this Vid! lol

05-06-2009, 11:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
njlakeshoreg Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: nergen cnty, NJ Posts: 16 Drives: 08 INF G37S 6mt IP Rep Power: 15	when i installed mine on my G37, at first it was loose, but not that loose...you need to keep playing around with the rubber couplings and the clamps...it will eventually tighten up...to be honest, mine had a lil bit of play after i was done...not much but it was annoying...i took a heavy duty zip tie and held it down behind the bumper...you cant see it and it gives the piece of mind that its COMPLETELY solid... on a side note, the passenger side is VERY close to a wiring loom and its holder, try to keep it above it or keep the pipe as straight or pretty much high as possible, i noticed when ihad the pipe lower the car did not feel as it should, so i took it back off and redid it and sounded different and felt better...

05-09-2009, 01:30 PM	#14 (permalink)
axio Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 271 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 16	Agreed. My Stillen Gen 3 intake fit with no issues at all. Contrary to my experiences (still on-going) with their exhaust, I have nothing but great things to say about their intake. It doesn't rattle, i'm not worried about it breaking anything, etc. I DID also follow their instructions about taking one of the segments of silicone tubing and zip-tieing it around the metal a/c lines (i think they're a/c), and everything fits just great.

05-10-2009, 02:06 PM	#15 (permalink)
miguez Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 359 Drives: '04 Cavalier Rep Power: 181	njlakeshoreg, that's one clean looking engine bay!

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