Carbotech XP10 front XP8 back - my choice BUT

danegrey

everything has a BUT.... (Beyond the underlying truth)
Either
Carbotech XP10 front XP8 back
or XP8 front and back...

But the real question should I go with them, since the car is driven on the street, to and from the track
or
should I simply just get street/track pad set

I want to replace the pads before the next track event in a month...

Thanks for being patience with me on this, at times I get all thumbs....

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Hotrodz

I ran the same pads street and track. The squeal when cold on the street and they dust like mad. I didn't street the car much before the engine blew.

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Rusty

I use that combo all the time. Just be prepared for the dust, and the squeal coming to a stop. Neither of which bothers me. When cold, the pads still have LOTS of bite.

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OptionZero

Ceramic coat your wheels and the dust should come right off

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Jhill

Love them on the track but I don’t think I’d tolerate them on the street to be honest. Aside from noise and dust they’re a bit much grab in stop and go traffic. I do the 1521 on street and swap to xp10/8 a week or two before events. It’s a bit a hassle but worth it in the end.

DarkJak

I've done 10/8 on the street for a couple years now, though it's more like 25% street.

If you are only occasionally tracking, consider swapping to 12/10 at the track and a nice streetfriendly compound most the time. If you have space to work and basic tools, the akebono's are quick to do a pad swap.

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Quicksilvers

I ran the Carbotech XP10 front and XP8 back for years before switching to different brake pads. There is a reason the Carbotech brake pads cost more they bit really well and you will be able to see the full benefits of the Carbotech’s on the track. You will see a braking improvement with the Carbotech’s but you will need to run upgraded rotors though. Only con’s is you will notice is more dusting coming from them and evident on your wheels. Also when they are cold a specially on cold days they will make noise moaning etc. When they warm up they quiet down. One thing to realize is when running a track oriented brake pad like the Carbotech’s or similar rotor life will decrease some. I recommend switching from street brake pads when you want to drive your Z on the street and on your track days switching over to your track pads you will thank yourself later. The 1521 Carbotech’s will be a nice improvement on the street. What brake fluid do you plan on using? What is your brake set up plans for street/track?

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danegrey

Motol 660 brake fluid
Stillen Brake Cooling installed already
I did the Z1 370z(Sport) Brake Upgrade Kit a couple of years ago...

I street the car maybe third of the time. So sounds like I should be good.
Thanks all for the help

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fairladyATX

How difficult was the Stillen brake cooling install? I'm looking to install this or the Z1 kit before my next track day.

I did my 1st track day in the Z last weekend with XP10s/XP8s on aftermarket drilled/slotted rotors w/ Motul RBF600 fluid and got major brake fade at the end of the sessions. Thinking I absolutely need to add cooling and install SS lines to replace the 7-year-old factory rubber.

And, I just bought street pads so I'll only run the Carbotechs on the track. At $300/set, plus the dust and squealing, I only want them on the track. I went with Centri Posi-Quiet for the street pads, they cheaper on Amazon than from Z1, FYI.

Rusty

The Stillen brake cooling kit isn't that hard to install. You have to remove the bearing units and install the new shield behind it. To do that, you have to remove the ABS sensors. Then figure out how you route the hose.

Definitely get the SS brake lines, and get the Z1 brake master cylinder brace.

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abm89

I'm gonna butt in here: which track are/were you running?

I agree with what's been said here. I think you'll get the best improvement from the stainless lines. I would bump up the brake fluid to 660 as well. I cannot speak to the 10/8 combo as I've never run it, but the 12/10 combo gives you unbelievable stopping power and will give you some more pad life.

I don't have cooling and I haven't had any fade issues with the brakes, but usually, I cook my tires before I get to brake fade. So I will defer to others on whether you absolutely have to install the cooling kit at this point.

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danegrey

Should ask this up front, which suppliers do you use?
Since I have to get them by May 12th

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Quicksilvers

I would refrain ordering anything from Z1 in my opinion there are a lot of vendors you can order from how deserve your business. I ordered all my brake pads and brake related items direct from Carbotech and I'm happy I did. www.ctbrakes.com

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danegrey

thanks for the tip, found out they have a 10% discount for SCCA a members

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DarkJak

I use myself, and am about to order a set from them directly. PM me and I can get you in on that order.

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