Carbotech XP10 front XP8 back - my choice BUT

ltullos · 04-29-2021, 01:55 PM

I've been using the Stoptech sport pads for several years and over 20 events. I typically change fronts after every other event & rears every 3-4th event (all depending on track and duration). I know there are better track pads; but I've never had an issue with any kind of fade or stopping force. Hopefully I will eventually when I become a much faster driver. Best thing is that I can use these for street as well without squeal or significant brake dust.

I suggest you give them a try and only go to a harder pad when you find that you need it.

Hotrodz · 04-29-2021, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ltullos

I've been using the Stoptech sport pads for several years and over 20 events. I typically change fronts after every other event & rears every 3-4th event (all depending on track and duration). I know there are better track pads; but I've never had an issue with any kind of fade or stopping force. Hopefully I will eventually when I become a much faster driver. Best thing is that I can use these for street as well without squeal or significant brake dust.

I suggest you give them a try and only go to a harder pad when you find that you need it.

LMAO, if you are changing pads that often you need change to something else. Those pads are fine for street and maybe a novice at the track but not for anyone in this thread.

JARblue · 04-29-2021, 03:25 PM

Replacing brakes pads every other event is a sign that you need to move to a harder brake pad compound for your track use.

JARblue · 06-30-2021, 08:17 PM

Have you ever had an instructor in your car that commented or noticed your braking habits?

I'd check your rubber brakes lines for a bubble just in case.

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fairladyATX · 06-30-2021, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Have you ever had an instructor in your car that commented or noticed your braking habits?

I'd check your rubber brakes lines for a bubble just in case.

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Yes, I've always had an instructor in the car. My braking technique is fine (not dragging my foot on it or stabbing the brakes), threshold braking in a straight line was not the problem here.

I'll take the wheels off this weekend and check for bubbles. Never seen a pic like that before. What causes that to happen?

JARblue · 06-30-2021, 10:38 PM

Extreme heat and time. It's not common but SS brake lines should be a pretty high priority for any 370Z that sees regular track time.

I wasn't trying to insinuate otherwise on the braking btw. Obviously you're serious about

Hope to run into you sometime soon.

fairladyATX · 06-30-2021, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Extreme heat and time. It's not common but SS brake lines should be a pretty high priority for any 370Z that sees regular track time.

I wasn't trying to insinuate otherwise on the braking btw. Obviously you're serious about

Hope to run into you sometime soon.

No, of course. I didn't assume anything by the comment. I bet the SS lines take care of it. I think I'll install the Z1 Premium lines with fresh Motul fluid and see how they do in September at Eagle's Canyon. If I still run into issues I'll know it's a cooling issue or possibly something undiagnosed so far with my braking technique.

JARblue · 07-01-2021, 08:05 AM

Get the non-premium lines. They get rid of the stupid blocks, which are just another potential leak point.

fairladyATX · 07-01-2021, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Get the non-premium lines. They get rid of the stupid blocks, which are just another potential leak point.

Thanks for the tip!

Rusty · 07-01-2021, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by fairladyATX

Thanks for the tip!

If you get coilovers. Some of them have no place to mount the connection block.

ZoomZ · 07-03-2021, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Get the non-premium lines. They get rid of the stupid blocks, which are just another potential leak point.

Do these thread into the calipers or are they still Banjo bolts?

and fit the Akeebono sport calipers?

Rusty · 07-03-2021, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ZoomZ

Do these thread into the calipers or are they still Banjo bolts?

and fit the Akeebono sport calipers?

Still use the banjo bolts and will fit the 'bono's.

ZoomZ · 07-01-2021, 09:17 PM

How would StopTech Street compare to The 1521 Carbotech’s? (strictly for street use)

I got this on the interweb. Good reference? :

Friction:
StopTech > Carbotech 1521 > Hawk HPS

Dust:
StopTech > Hawk HPS > Carbotech 1521

Abrasiveness on rotors:
StopTech > Hawk HPS > Carbotech 1521

abm89 · 07-01-2021, 09:54 PM

I run stoptech streets on both my cars. They're fine. With the Z's Akebono Kit, it's plenty of stopping power for the street. If you need more, you need to give yourself more space when driving.

FL 4Motion · 07-01-2021, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by danegrey

everything has a BUT.... (Beyond the underlying truth)
Either
Carbotech XP10 front XP8 back
or XP8 front and back...

But the real question should I go with them, since the car is driven on the street, to and from the track
or
should I simply just get street/track pad set

I want to replace the pads before the next track event in a month...

Thanks for being patience with me on this, at times I get all thumbs....

6 years- 2 nismo 370 z’s over that time, both set up as streetable track cars, ran XP10 front XP8 rear full time. Fine on the street but like Rusty said a lot of dust and squealing but it’s a track car, who cares. On the first nismo we couldn’t really hear the squealing over the FI LTHs with non res cbe.

Oh, and motul rbf 660. Wifey cooked rbf 600 at Sebring in the summer one time and 8/8 combo failed there too, but 10/8 held up, this was with no brake ducting.

Oh, on aggressive street tires, PS2s iirc.

04-29-2021, 01:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
ltullos Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: DFW Posts: 312 Drives: 2016 Nismo Tech MT Rep Power: 14	I've been using the Stoptech sport pads for several years and over 20 events. I typically change fronts after every other event & rears every 3-4th event (all depending on track and duration). I know there are better track pads; but I've never had an issue with any kind of fade or stopping force. Hopefully I will eventually when I become a much faster driver. Best thing is that I can use these for street as well without squeal or significant brake dust. I suggest you give them a try and only go to a harder pad when you find that you need it. Last edited by ltullos; 04-29-2021 at 02:01 PM.

04-29-2021, 03:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,449 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Replacing brakes pads every other event is a sign that you need to move to a harder brake pad compound for your track use. FL 4Motion, Rusty and Hotrodz like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

06-30-2021, 08:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,449 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Have you ever had an instructor in your car that commented or noticed your braking habits? I'd check your rubber brakes lines for a bubble just in case. ( Click to show/hide ) __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

06-30-2021, 10:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,449 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Extreme heat and time. It's not common but SS brake lines should be a pretty high priority for any 370Z that sees regular track time. I wasn't trying to insinuate otherwise on the braking btw. Obviously you're serious about Hope to run into you sometime soon. FL 4Motion, Rusty and Hotrodz like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

07-01-2021, 08:05 AM	#8 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,449 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Get the non-premium lines. They get rid of the stupid blocks, which are just another potential leak point. Hotrodz, -ZS-Carpenter and ZoomZ like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

07-01-2021, 09:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
ZoomZ Track Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 729 Drives: 17' 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 40312	How would StopTech Street compare to The 1521 Carbotech’s? (strictly for street use) I got this on the interweb. Good reference? : Friction: StopTech > Carbotech 1521 > Hawk HPS Dust: StopTech > Hawk HPS > Carbotech 1521 Abrasiveness on rotors: StopTech > Hawk HPS > Carbotech 1521 Last edited by ZoomZ; 07-01-2021 at 09:21 PM.

07-01-2021, 09:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
abm89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,313 Drives: 11 370Z \| 24 EL450 Rep Power: 64763	I run stoptech streets on both my cars. They're fine. With the Z's Akebono Kit, it's plenty of stopping power for the street. If you need more, you need to give yourself more space when driving. __________________ Complete Parts List: https://github.com/abm89/ztouge-build

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